Posted 2012-02-13 22:16:31
 Sheryl, on 2012-02-13 07:23:08, said:
What I think is playing out is a time lag in (1) information on the new policy reaching all pharmacies and (2) the existing stocks in pharmacies around the country running out. To my understanding, once they have, they won't be able to reorder and all drugs containing pseudoephedrine in oral form will be found only in hospital pharmacies.
Whether this policy will last once the health system -- especially the public health system -- has to cope with an onslaught of patients with simple colds remains to be seen. The private hospitals may be fine with it -- the more revenue, the better from their point of few -- but it is going to be a huige problem for the public hospitals.
I really hate the idea of having to go a hospital to get meds too for simple, treatable things and even check ups and such as we always end up going home with something we didn't come in with, they are dirty nasty places full of illness on everything you touch or when you take a breath so we began wearing masks and so far so good for a few years now.
The masks seem to get us served faster too thinking we're really sick with something more serious but still now the chances of getting sick are going to be 1000 fold due to so many sick people packing into the same space.. 
Posted 2012-02-14 08:47:52
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-13 22:09:47, said:
Off topic a bit but plenty of guaifenesin here, Robitussin is the primary brand that springs to mind, I'm looking at a package of it right now.
Thanks for the tip about that... I hadn't even thought of that. But as it turns out, I ended up ordering a large bottle of 400 mg tablets from the U.S. and having it mailed here along with some other stuff...
[It's very odd, though given what you note about Robitussin, that after getting several blank looks from pharmacists in asking verbally, I actually printed out the name guaifenesin and an image of the bottled medicine to show to some other pharmacists, including having my wife check at her hospital pharmacy, and still got clueless answers.]
One of the reasons, when I was back in the U.S., I always tended to stay away from Robitussin was that it a] contained alcohol, sugar and a bunch of other stuff, and b] there were so many varieties that often contained other medical ingredients I didn't really want or need...such as a cough suppresant.
But more on the main topic of this thread, what version or versions of Robitussin are you finding here? I ask because, in checking, I see that several of them also contain psuedoephedrine as an ingredient.
Quote Robitussin: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg.
Robitussin DM: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg.
Robitussin Cough & Cold: Each 5 mL of pink, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg, pseudoephedrine HCl 30 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg.
Robitussin Extra Strength: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 200 mg.
Robitussin Extra Strength Cough & Cold: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 200 mg, dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg, pseudoephedrine HCl 30 mg.
Hmm...but now I wonder if the above info is current or out of date... I was just checking Amazon.com, and at least in the U.S. found only Robitussin Cough & Cold CF, which appears to have been reformulated to replace pseudoephedrine with phenylephrine...
Edited by TallGuyJohninBKK, 2012-02-14 09:02:13.
Posted 2012-02-14 12:46:55
TallGuyJohninBKK, on 2012-02-14 08:47:52, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-13 22:09:47, said:
Off topic a bit but plenty of guaifenesin here, Robitussin is the primary brand that springs to mind, I'm looking at a package of it right now.
Thanks for the tip about that... I hadn't even thought of that. But as it turns out, I ended up ordering a large bottle of 400 mg tablets from the U.S. and having it mailed here along with some other stuff...
[It's very odd, though given what you note about Robitussin, that after getting several blank looks from pharmacists in asking verbally, I actually printed out the name guaifenesin and an image of the bottled medicine to show to some other pharmacists, including having my wife check at her hospital pharmacy, and still got clueless answers.]
One of the reasons, when I was back in the U.S., I always tended to stay away from Robitussin was that it a] contained alcohol, sugar and a bunch of other stuff, and b] there were so many varieties that often contained other medical ingredients I didn't really want or need...such as a cough suppresant.
But more on the main topic of this thread, what version or versions of Robitussin are you finding here? I ask because, in checking, I see that several of them also contain psuedoephedrine as an ingredient.
Quote Robitussin: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg.
Robitussin DM: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg.
Robitussin Cough & Cold: Each 5 mL of pink, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg, pseudoephedrine HCl 30 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg.
Robitussin Extra Strength: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 200 mg.
Robitussin Extra Strength Cough & Cold: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 200 mg, dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg, pseudoephedrine HCl 30 mg.
Hmm...but now I wonder if the above info is current or out of date... I was just checking Amazon.com, and at least in the U.S. found only Robitussin Cough & Cold CF, which appears to have been reformulated to replace pseudoephedrine with phenylephrine...
ME, DM, Guaifenesin (formerly simply named Robitussin) and used to be PS too which contained the Pseudoephedrine but is now obviously being phased out though I managed to find a couple left over recently after months of looking..
I seldom ever ask the pharmacist, most are clueless as to their stock, I can't tell you how many times they told me mai me, mai chai and the product I was seeking was sitting right in front of us as it turned out after searching more closely not believing the mai mee or mai chai.. Then keep an empty box for future reference if you must but honestly have never needed that in this case.
One of the reasons I've always used Robitussin is the fact that they do not use alcohol though so don't know where you got that impression from? It's usually only applied in cold meds not cough meds so you can sleep better. The sugar content from my point of view is negligible as it's not an everyday usage..
Posted 2012-02-14 13:30:08
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-14 12:46:55, said:
One of the reasons I've always used Robitussin is the fact that they do not use alcohol though so don't know where you got that impression from? It's usually only applied in cold meds not cough meds so you can sleep better. The sugar content from my point of view is negligible as it's not an everyday usage..
Re alcohol content, I didn't include the non-medical ingredients in my above post... But here's the full contents info that was listed.
Quote Availability And Storage: Robitussin: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: alcohol, caramel color, citric acid, flavor, glycerin, invert sugar, FD&C Red No. 40, sodium benzoate, sodium chloride and water. Energy: 15.3 kJ (3.7 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (2.8 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Robitussin DM: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: alcohol, citric acid, flavors, FD&C Red No. 40, FD&C Yellow No. 6, glycerin, invert sugar, sodium benzoate and water. Energy: 12.4 kJ (3.0 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (0.8 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Robitussin Cough & Cold: Each 5 mL of pink, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg, pseudoephedrine HCl 30 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: alcohol, citric acid, flavors, D&C Red No. 33, FD&C Red No. 40, glycerin, invert sugar, sodium benzoate, maltol and water. Energy: 17.6 kJ (4.2 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (0.8 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Robitussin Extra Strength: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 200 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: citric acid, corn syrup, FD&C Red No. 40, flavors, glycerin, polyethylene glycol, propylene glycol, sodium benzoate, sodium carboxymethylcellulose, sodium saccharin, sorbitol and water. Energy: 49 kJ (11.7 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (4.1 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Posted 2012-02-14 20:43:28
TallGuyJohninBKK, on 2012-02-14 13:30:08, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-14 12:46:55, said:
One of the reasons I've always used Robitussin is the fact that they do not use alcohol though so don't know where you got that impression from? It's usually only applied in cold meds not cough meds so you can sleep better. The sugar content from my point of view is negligible as it's not an everyday usage..
Re alcohol content, I didn't include the non-medical ingredients in my above post... But here's the full contents info that was listed.
Quote Availability And Storage: Robitussin: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: alcohol, caramel color, citric acid, flavor, glycerin, invert sugar, FD&C Red No. 40, sodium benzoate, sodium chloride and water. Energy: 15.3 kJ (3.7 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (2.8 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Robitussin DM: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: alcohol, citric acid, flavors, FD&C Red No. 40, FD&C Yellow No. 6, glycerin, invert sugar, sodium benzoate and water. Energy: 12.4 kJ (3.0 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (0.8 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Robitussin Cough & Cold: Each 5 mL of pink, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 100 mg, pseudoephedrine HCl 30 mg and dextromethorphan HBr 15 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: alcohol, citric acid, flavors, D&C Red No. 33, FD&C Red No. 40, glycerin, invert sugar, sodium benzoate, maltol and water. Energy: 17.6 kJ (4.2 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (0.8 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Robitussin Extra Strength: Each 5 mL of red, cherry-flavored syrup contains: guaifenesin 200 mg. Nonmedicinal ingredients: citric acid, corn syrup, FD&C Red No. 40, flavors, glycerin, polyethylene glycol, propylene glycol, sodium benzoate, sodium carboxymethylcellulose, sodium saccharin, sorbitol and water. Energy: 49 kJ (11.7 kcal). Sodium: <1 mmol (4.1 mg). Bottles of 100 and 250 mL.
Well if one is not susceptible to addiction and avoiding it for that reason there's no need for concern in the minimal amounts used for the short period of a cold or flu.. Alcohol has good benefits when sick it breaks down bacteria and viruses in the stomach and blood stream and can aid in minimizing the length and severity of illness..
Posted 2012-02-14 22:27:08
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-14 20:43:28, said:
Alcohol has good benefits when sick it breaks down bacteria and viruses in the stomach and blood stream and can aid in minimizing the length and severity of illness..
I've never heard anything along the lines of what you say above being offered as legitimate medical advice. And to the contrary, most of the time, when people are sick, doctors advise to avoid alcohol, and particularly in conjunction with the taking of other medicines... That, and alcohol at some levels is supposed to worsen sinus problems...because of its dehydrading effects.
As you said, at recommended dosages, the alcohol amounts in those preparations are probably minimal and of no great effect... But as I said, it's just another ingredient that I don't really want... added into the one ingredient -- guaifenesin or pseudoephedrine -- that I do want. I can do without the unnecessary extras.
Posted 2012-02-15 00:55:16
TallGuyJohninBKK, on 2012-02-14 22:27:08, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-14 20:43:28, said:
Alcohol has good benefits when sick it breaks down bacteria and viruses in the stomach and blood stream and can aid in minimizing the length and severity of illness..
I've never heard anything along the lines of what you say above being offered as legitimate medical advice. And to the contrary, most of the time, when people are sick, doctors advise to avoid alcohol, and particularly in conjunction with the taking of other medicines... That, and alcohol at some levels is supposed to worsen sinus problems...because of its dehydrading effects.
As you said, at recommended dosages, the alcohol amounts in those preparations are probably minimal and of no great effect... But as I said, it's just another ingredient that I don't really want... added into the one ingredient -- guaifenesin or pseudoephedrine -- that I do want. I can do without the unnecessary extras.
Yes they do recommend you avoid alcohol but it is because of the potential for adverse reactions to other meds and the amount being used that are NOT designed to coexist which in the cases being discussed is obviously NOT the circumstances..
And yes there is wide ranging medical evidence that alcohol does do exactly what I mentioned and it goes back centuries not just decades..
Why do you think all forms of alcohol are used to antisept? The effects internally are much the same.. But you do whatever you want that still doesn't invalidate the info provided just your choice to do what you want with it..
Posted 2012-02-16 08:43:09
Quote Why do you think all forms of alcohol are used to antisept? The effects internally are much the same..
So getting plastered drunk is a good way to cure the common cold...or a sinus infection... or the common food poisoning episode? Is that really your idea for the internal antiseptic properties of alcohol???
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