102 replies to this topic
Posted 2012-02-06 23:25:06
 sparebox2, on 2012-02-06 12:17:36, said:
Thai and Thailand have no fear.
We are number 1 in ASEAN.
Number 2 in ASIA, after Japan.
We have plenty of rice in our field, and much fish in our water.
And above all, we have a great king, to much envy of all other countires in the whole universe.
You forget the endless influx of "silly old men" who are happy to part with their hard earned money for a few hours/days/weeks of companionship with poor, uneducated, lazy, useless local lasses - just imagine how much money these blokes bring into this country every year. They practically financed all of the pick-ups, house etc. in Isaan.
Posted 2012-02-06 23:38:58
Just1Voice, on 2012-02-06 13:04:58, said:
*Deleted quote edited out*
sparbox2, you really need to stop whatever it is you are smoking, drinking or sticking into your veins and come back to the real world. But let's look at your latest inane comment for a minute.
Vietnamese father is on a motorbike, wearing a helmet, has an accident, and thanks to the helmet he survives, much to the joy of his family.
"Brave Thai" father is on a motorbike, NOT wearng a helmet, has an accident and dies, or requires long term medical treatment, thereby becoming a burden to the family he can no longer take care of. And if he dies, which is usually the case, he leaves behind a wife and children who now have no husband/father to provide for them.
And as for the "brave warrior decent", get real! If you bother to read REAL Thai history, and not the myths they teach in Thai schools, the only people the Thai have ever really fought and defeated were the Burmese. And if they are such "brave warriors", why did they meekly let the Japanese simply walk in and take over during WW II without putting up even a token resistance.
During the Thai - Lao War, Thai troops took over and occupied a small city in Lao. That night it only took a few dozen Lao troops to drive out the entire Thai Company and reclaim the city.
No, Thai not wearing helmets has nothing to do with "brave warrior class", and everything to do with stupdiity.
I'm pretty sure he's/she's just being sarcastic...
Posted 2012-02-07 01:52:15
Thailand has to take their lumps in the market place just like everyone else. A friend of mine calls Thailand the Rip Van Winkle country..They have been sleeping while the countries around them have been moving forward. Maintaining the status quo has been their Achille's Heal.
Posted 2012-02-07 03:37:56
....but no mention of the potential mineral wealth that is being eyed by outside interests?
All this is a beat up of the current Government; the Nation does not explain why. All it attracts is the same all bods that have no say in Thai politics but want to get notice for radical views.
The discussion on what Burma has to offer would offer more
Posted 2012-02-07 03:47:17
jerrysteve, on 2012-02-07 01:52:15, said:
Thailand has to take their lumps in the market place just like everyone else. A friend of mine calls Thailand the Rip Van Winkle country..They have been sleeping while the countries around them have been moving forward. Maintaining the status quo has been their Achille's Heal.
Lumpy rice is not good.
Edited by wxyz, 2012-02-07 03:47:29.
Posted 2012-02-07 04:36:35
Much of the article is true and why? because Thailand,the people and certainly its politicians dont have the motivation to be the Southern Asian economic powerhouse,
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Edited by KKvampire, 2012-02-07 04:39:15.
Posted 2012-02-07 09:22:34
djayz, on 2012-02-06 23:25:06, said:
sparebox2, on 2012-02-06 12:17:36, said:
Thai and Thailand have no fear.
We are number 1 in ASEAN.
Number 2 in ASIA, after Japan.
We have plenty of rice in our field, and much fish in our water.
And above all, we have a great king, to much envy of all other countires in the whole universe.
You forget the endless influx of "silly old men" who are happy to part with their hard earned money for a few hours/days/weeks of companionship with poor, uneducated, lazy, useless local lasses - just imagine how much money these blokes bring into this country every year. They practically financed all of the pick-ups, house etc. in Isaan.
About 4 billion dollars is the best guess.
http://www.sexwork.c...raditiions.html
Posted 2012-02-07 15:42:44
Been up to the border, had a look over the other side, yes just same same, nothing to see, Thailand still centre of the known universe, one day we will rule the world, teach them how to build super highways, drive like gods, the true meaning of incinerating everything, how to run a world class business etc etc., I just cannot understand why our neighbours dont come to see how things are really done, they must be a bit like Isaan was 20 years ago, asleep.
Posted 2012-02-07 18:31:47
Economic powerhouses of Asia (excluding Japan) :
- China
- Hong Kong
- Taiwan
- Singapore
- South Korea
Economic backwaters :
- Thailand,
- Phillipines
- Malaysia
- Indonesia
Can anyone see the similarities / differences?
Posted 2012-02-07 18:39:46
Gweiloman, on 2012-02-07 18:31:47, said:
Economic powerhouses of Asia (excluding Japan) :
- China
- Hong Kong
- Taiwan
- Singapore
- South Korea
Economic backwaters :
- Thailand,
- Phillipines
- Malaysia
- Indonesia
Can anyone see the similarities / differences?
I think it would be better if you said "Economic backwaters" ( excluding Thailand ) looks better dont you think!
Posted 2012-02-07 21:24:52
marquess, on 2012-02-06 10:09:30, said:
Thailand won't make any changes-- for as long as they can sit in their own country doing things their way then they don't really care about the rest of the world. They are taught that their country is the best country in the world and the way they do things is both different and superior-- 'Thai Wisdom'. The majority of them believe this and the elite is quite happy to perpetuate this view as it serves their interests. Lets hope that this beautiful country of Thailand can find new ways to adapt that will allow it to see itself as it is generally perceived by most objective observers.
Agree.
Also (IMHO) U.S. keeping Thailand as zone of interests & control -Siamese Bay-South China See-(China , Russia)at the same time it's good & bad for country...
& Does anybody noticed the beauty of Anti Money Laundry Department building in BKK    ...
#87
wintermute
Posted 2012-02-08 09:48:48
Few people remember that three decades ago the Philippines was the most prosperous nation in SE Asia second only to Japan. In fact the elite there were so arrogant they started burning foreign investors and became increasingly monopolistic/protectionist. In their business practices. The net result was that a few corrupt failed administrations later all the investment bailed to Ne Asia and stable nations like Singapore. Thailand won't collapse economically but just like the Phil the cost of doing business here has become a gamble. It looks good on paper but a single stroke of a pen can erase entire investments. DTAC is an example of how Thai business monopolies collude to rob foreign enterprise similar to what happened in the Phil decades ago.
Posted 2012-02-08 10:07:10
wait and see if nothing is done to combat the floods in the industrial area of ayuthaya the factories will pack up and go,thus putting thousands out of work.try telling the gov.prevention is better than cure.the thai way is let it happen first.
Posted 2012-02-08 10:22:14
takatukaland, on 2012-02-06 14:07:00, said:
moe666, on 2012-02-06 11:02:35, said:
JurgenG, on 2012-02-06 09:23:35, said:
happysanook, on 2012-02-06 08:38:32, said:
i'm not sure what the hubbub is about here. if anything, thailand is getting too big for it's britches as it is. everywhere i look i see expansion, renovation, things transforming and becoming increasingly modern in front of my eyes. even in the little town i live in, the rate of change is insane.
True but the political environment is like last year clothes on a fast growing teenager, hampering the movements, blocking the growth.
Some want to isolate Thailand from the rest of the world through muddy "self sufficiency" policies. History taught us, Japan and China spring to mind, that isolation doesn't work.
In a fast changing world Thailand lost 6 years, really lost because nothing constructive happened during the past 6 years, dreaming about a mythical Thailand that never really existed.
Yesteryear Thailand is over, gone for ever. It's time people realize that or we will take the the same path as the Philippines. In the 70's the Philippines was one of the most developed nation in SE Asia, now it is at the bottom. Is that the future people want for Thailand ?
And why did the Philippines stagnate, a power hungry leader, Marcos who sold and stole the country blind. Similar to someone trying to and controlling Thailand from Dubai. After they kicked marcos out some really dumb decisions were made that have only made the situation worse. Corruption in the Philippines worse than in Thailand.
What nonsense,the guy in dubai tried to change things,why do you think he had to go?He tried to take power from establishment,from khun hiso in bkk,from army,those are the ones who hijack thailand,as long they are in power,thailand can't move on
Get a grip, the only thing Big T tried to do was own the country megamanic is defined by a photo of Big T in the dictionary
Posted 2012-02-08 16:03:35
jalansanitwong, on 2012-02-06 08:05:34, said:
Thailands strength has always been the weakness of its neighbours. Once they all start developing, lazy Thailand will be left behind.Burma has
hundredsof magnificent little islands presumably far more pristine than over commercialised Phuket. Great for eco tourism.
Laos is coming up albeit slowly and Cambodia should be ready to rejoin the human race within 10 years.
Biggest problem in Thailand is the country is owned by the top 100 or so richest Thai and Chinese Thai families. They want to keep the status quo. Tobacco monopoly, alcohol /beverages monopoly, pseudo monopolies created by shutting out competition using huge import duties and appalling corruption at the docks and airports. Crappy locally produced appliances and cars, foreign reserves created through massive prostitution industry and impoverished Issan wife exports to England,Germany,Sweden, Switzerland, Korea, Australia, USA. Insane foreign ownership laws and regs, restrictive and expensive immigration regs,.
Thailand is their own private club, so 60 million Thai's and foreigners arent invited.
The government refuses to take the English language seriously so they will suffer severely long term. Thais are not wanted because they cant speak English.
This country has always been incredibly difficult for outsiders to conduct business .
Better options are popping up.
Thai's will just shrug their shoulders because they dont care. Pretty girl PM Yingluck will head off to Milan to buy the latest LV handbag for 150,000 b.Nothing will ever change here.
Sorry to say............. I think you are absolutely correct. Thailand will continue to be the private club for 100 families - no more, no less. Likely to be the place where all the others come to "play". The biggest single issue is the lack of good English speakers. It is so much easier in most of the other ASEAN countries already - they are more business friendly, foreigner friendly, investment friendly etc. Thailand will continue it's sleepy isolationist type thinking until it's all too late.
#91
wintermute
Posted 2012-02-08 18:09:30
Baerboxer, on 2012-02-08 16:03:35, said:
jalansanitwong, on 2012-02-06 08:05:34, said:
Thailands strength has always been the weakness of its neighbours. Once they all start developing, lazy Thailand will be left behind.Burma has
hundredsof magnificent little islands presumably far more pristine than over commercialised Phuket. Great for eco tourism.
Laos is coming up albeit slowly and Cambodia should be ready to rejoin the human race within 10 years.
Biggest problem in Thailand is the country is owned by the top 100 or so richest Thai and Chinese Thai families. They want to keep the status quo. Tobacco monopoly, alcohol /beverages monopoly, pseudo monopolies created by shutting out competition using huge import duties and appalling corruption at the docks and airports. Crappy locally produced appliances and cars, foreign reserves created through massive prostitution industry and impoverished Issan wife exports to England,Germany,Sweden, Switzerland, Korea, Australia, USA. Insane foreign ownership laws and regs, restrictive and expensive immigration regs,.
Thailand is their own private club, so 60 million Thai's and foreigners arent invited.
The government refuses to take the English language seriously so they will suffer severely long term. Thais are not wanted because they cant speak English.
This country has always been incredibly difficult for outsiders to conduct business .
Better options are popping up.
Thai's will just shrug their shoulders because they dont care. Pretty girl PM Yingluck will head off to Milan to buy the latest LV handbag for 150,000 b.Nothing will ever change here.
Sorry to say............. I think you are absolutely correct. Thailand will continue to be the private club for 100 families - no more, no less. Likely to be the place where all the others come to "play". The biggest single issue is the lack of good English speakers. It is so much easier in most of the other ASEAN countries already - they are more business friendly, foreigner friendly, investment friendly etc. Thailand will continue it's sleepy isolationist type thinking until it's all too late.
100 families? I'd say it's less than 10 that own the majority of Thailand with everyone else on the bottom getting crumbs. If you look at the big corporate names that own everything (ie. CP) they own large subsidiaries everywhere in Thailand.
Posted 2012-02-08 22:20:45
wintermute, on 2012-02-08 18:09:30, said:
100 families? I'd say it's less than 10 that own the majority of Thailand with everyone else on the bottom getting crumbs. If you look at the big corporate names that own everything (ie. CP) they own large subsidiaries everywhere in Thailand.
Thaksin is not even in the top 10, and he barely makes the top 20.
http://www.forbes.co...es-11_rank.html
Networth in US millions:
Dhanin Chearavanont
7,400
Chaleo Yoovidhya
5,000
Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi
4,800
Chirathivat family
4,300
Krit Ratanarak & family
2,500
Aloke Lohia
2,100
Chamnong Bhirombhakdi
2,000
Vichai Maleenont
1,500
Isara Vongkusolkit & family
1,400
Praneetsilpa Vacharaphol & family
1,050
Thongma Vijitpongpun
1,000
Vanich Chaiyawan
930
Prayudh Mahagitsiri
900
Surang Prempree
790
Anant Asavabhokin
750
Keeree Kanjanapas
625
Prasert Prasarttong-Osoth
620
Somporn Juangroongruangkit
610
Thaksin Shinawatra & family
600
Boonchai Bencharongkul
550
Kraisorn Chansiri
460
Chamroon Chinthammit
440
William E. Heinecke
425
Sunsurn Jurangkool
420
Wit Viriyaprapaikit
380
Worawit Weeraborwornpong
360
Nishita Shah Federbush
340
Pongsak Viddayakorn
310
Prachai Leophairatana
300
Vicha Poolvaraluck
265
Nijaporn Charanachitta
260
Niti Osathanugrah
255
Roongroj Saengsastra
250
Pete Bodharanik
245
Premchai Karnasuta
240
Prateep Tangmatitham
230
Chalerm Yoovidhya
225
Vichai Raksriaksorn
210
Porndee Lee-Issaranukul
200
Virot Thanalongkorn
195
Edited by IsaanUSA, 2012-02-08 22:22:23.
Posted 2012-02-08 23:53:53
IsaanUSA, on 2012-02-08 22:20:45, said:
wintermute, on 2012-02-08 18:09:30, said:
100 families? I'd say it's less than 10 that own the majority of Thailand with everyone else on the bottom getting crumbs. If you look at the big corporate names that own everything (ie. CP) they own large subsidiaries everywhere in Thailand.
Thaksin is not even in the top 10, and he barely makes the top 20.
http://www.forbes.co...es-11_rank.html
... end removed
Must be pure envy on my side, but personally I'd be satisfied barely making the top 20.
Posted 2012-02-09 01:54:57
rubl, on 2012-02-08 23:53:53, said:
IsaanUSA, on 2012-02-08 22:20:45, said:
wintermute, on 2012-02-08 18:09:30, said:
100 families? I'd say it's less than 10 that own the majority of Thailand with everyone else on the bottom getting crumbs. If you look at the big corporate names that own everything (ie. CP) they own large subsidiaries everywhere in Thailand.
Thaksin is not even in the top 10, and he barely makes the top 20.
http://www.forbes.co...es-11_rank.html
... end removed
Must be pure envy on my side, but personally I'd be satisfied barely making the top 20.
lol, well yeah
Posted 2012-02-09 13:16:15
Just1Voice, on 2012-02-06 12:47:42, said:
The decline of Thailand's "leadership" in this area started long before the Yingluck government was elected. Vietnam has now surpassed Thailand in rice exports. That didn't happen overnight, but over a period of years due to the mismanagement in the Agriculture and Political structure of Thailand.
Lao, who's entire population is about the same as Bangkok, has had 3G service for well over a year, while Thailand has just recently approved it, and even then, only in limited areas.
Vietnam enacted a "Helmet Law", and with the aid of a Police Force that actually does their job, now over 90% of the population that ride motorbikes wear helmets. In Thailand it's more like 90% DON'T. But then, Thailand police aren't actually interested in enforcing the law unless their is something to be gained by it, which usually means money.
14 of the 38 (36.8%) of the companies affected by the flood have closed down down their facilities and moved them to other countries - Vietnam, Lao, Cambodia. How many more will do the same if they are flooded again this year, which has a very strong likelihood of happening.
Malaysia has a government sponsored program called "Make Malaysia My Second Home", encouraging foreigners to come and live there, with favorable laws passed to encourage that. Thailand, on the other hand, seems to do everything they can to discourage foreigners from living here. The joke in the expat community is that what Thailand wants is our money, but not us, and would be happy to have us come, drop off our ATM cards and pin numbers, as well as anything else of value, then get back on the plane and go home.
When ASEAN kicks in, Thailand will quickly find itself at a serious disadvantage due to the lack of English language skills, and slip even farther down the social & economic structure that ASEAN will provide.
Thailand was once the "diamond" of S.E. Asia. Now it is more like a cubic zirconia, and it's "value" is continuing to decline.
Yes, a police force that actually does their job. Something Thailand can only dream about. I inquired in Koh Samui, three months ago, about when they will have 3G service. They said in three months. Yesterday I inquired again, and they said in six months. Real progress! Why the lack on interest on the part of AIS? The lady working at AIS toid me about Laos. She admitted to being very embarrassed at how poor the infrastructure was in Thailand. It is reported that up to 60 farengs per month are dying on motorcycles in Samui. Being sent home in wooden boxes. Do the police do anything about it? Does the mayor, a prostitute names Ramnate Jaikwong care? No, his only interest appears to be to steal as much government money as possible. He is buying up hotels as we speak, with government money. Is anybody doing anything about it? Of course not. Thailand continues to sail backwards, at 20kph!
Posted 2012-02-09 13:25:50
djayz, on 2012-02-06 23:38:58, said: Just1Voice, on 2012-02-06 13:04:58, said: *Deleted quote edited out* sparbox2, you really need to stop whatever it is you are smoking, drinking or sticking into your veins and come back to the real world. But let's look at your latest inane comment for a minute. Vietnamese father is on a motorbike, wearing a helmet, has an accident, and thanks to the helmet he survives, much to the joy of his family. "Brave Thai" father is on a motorbike, NOT wearng a helmet, has an accident and dies, or requires long term medical treatment, thereby becoming a burden to the family he can no longer take care of. And if he dies, which is usually the case, he leaves behind a wife and children who now have no husband/father to provide for them. And as for the "brave warrior decent", get real! If you bother to read REAL Thai history, and not the myths they teach in Thai schools, the only people the Thai have ever really fought and defeated were the Burmese. And if they are such "brave warriors", why did they meekly let the Japanese simply walk in and take over during WW II without putting up even a token resistance. During the Thai - Lao War, Thai troops took over and occupied a small city in Lao. That night it only took a few dozen Lao troops to drive out the entire Thai Company and reclaim the city. No, Thai not wearing helmets has nothing to do with "brave warrior class", and everything to do with stupdiity. I'm pretty sure he's/she's just being sarcastic...
Your history is pretty weak. The facts are: Between 1763 and 1769, Burmese armies overran northern Laos and annexed Luang Phrabang, while Champasak eventually came under Siamese control.
Chao Anouvong was installed as a vassal king of Vientiane by the Siamese. He encouraged a renaissance of Lao fine arts and literature and improved relations with Luang Phrabang. Although he was pressured to pay tribute to the Vietnamese, he rebelled against the Siamese. Thailand had virtual control of Southern Laos from about 1870 onwards. The reason why there are so few temples in Southern Laos, is due to an arrogant king who had the audacity to invade the kingdom of Khon Kaen. The Thai king at that time decided to invade Vientiene, and took over the entire region. As punishment, he destroyed what is estimated to be over 1,000 temples, dating back many centuries.
Posted 2012-02-09 14:01:50
... seems to me that Burma's rise is a serious threat to Thailand's economy.
... the inherent advantages Burma enjoyed in the late 40's, then heir apparent as the SE Asian crown jewel, are still there (though some are degraded, i.e. legal infrastructure, air transportaion, etc.): water, power, trade route access, large working age population, favorable geography, minerals, gems, natural gas, timber, arable land, and on, and on, and on.
... if Burma gets traction and succeeds, I could well imagine Burma hitting the people of Thailand very hard.
... export manufacturing and services? ... about 76% of Thai GDP ... Burma opens to the world with: low wages; public policies genuinely welcoming foreigners; aggressive investment incentives; new commercial infrastructure; large population of competent English speakers; and on, and on, and on. ... I could well imagine Burma gutting Thailand's export manufacturing sector over the next decade.
... and then, of course, there is agriculture ... about 12% of Thai GDP ... who did Thailand replace as the world's largest exporter of rice? ... answer: Burma ... get ready for Burma to come roaring back ... with their well-developed global rice distribution network, Thais themselves might be the ones who lead Burma's return to world's top rice exporter.
... and, tourism? ... about 6% of Thai GDP ... Burma is light-years more attractive than Thailand, which has squandered it's best resources and is now well passed it's high-water mark ... Thai tourism might only benefit as a gateway to Burma (which might be but a pass through Suvarnabhumi only, or a few days layover in BKK), until direct air access is eventually established into Yangon from major gateways ... Burma will kill Thailand in this sector.
... while the wealthiest Thais will easily abandon Thailand and redeploy their investments to Burma, the overwhelming majority of Thais will be left with ... well ... farming ... a Thai attempt to advance up the economic development ladder to a service-oriented economy, or to capture higher valued-added export manufacturing, seems impossible to me ... least not until the 'social order' here is reshuffled, Thai people can receive something more than a "do just enough" education, amongst a plethora of inferior economic foundation issues (institutionalized corruption, rule of law, free press, principle based political parties, and on, and on, and on) ... another generation, or two, maybe ... until then, the wisdom of the King's Sufficiency Economy Theory will keep Thais fed (I believe the man has seen this coming for a long time).
... while opening up, Burma is likely to benefit from favorable support (both financial and trade) by developed countries ... Lord knows, anything developed nations have donated to Thailand has been largely a waste, even after 5 decades of sustained support ... jeez, just look at the place ... with diminishing global resources, the better investment in this regard will likely be Burma.
... if the Burmese get this right, look-out Thailand.
Edited by swillowbee, 2012-02-09 14:22:21.
Posted 2012-02-10 00:42:13
swillowbee, on 2012-02-09 14:01:50, said:
... if the Burmese get this right, look-out Thailand.
You're talking best case scenario. I agree with you that Burma has a very great potential, but the junta could easily send that into a tailspin. Also you can fly to Yangon directly from Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, or Saigon and skip BKK entirely. Or were you talking, Narita/HK type of major gateways? (sorry don't know where the Europeans connect at)
What are your thoughts on Vietnam versus Thailand?
Posted 2012-02-10 05:45:12
IsaanUSA, on 2012-02-08 22:20:45, said:
wintermute, on 2012-02-08 18:09:30, said:
100 families? I'd say it's less than 10 that own the majority of Thailand with everyone else on the bottom getting crumbs. If you look at the big corporate names that own everything (ie. CP) they own large subsidiaries everywhere in Thailand.
Thaksin is not even in the top 10, and he barely makes the top 20.
http://www.forbes.co...es-11_rank.html
Networth in US millions:
Dhanin Chearavanont
7,400
Chaleo Yoovidhya
5,000
Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi
4,800
Chirathivat family
4,300
Krit Ratanarak & family
2,500
Aloke Lohia
2,100
Chamnong Bhirombhakdi
2,000
Vichai Maleenont
1,500
Isara Vongkusolkit & family
1,400
Praneetsilpa Vacharaphol & family
1,050
Thongma Vijitpongpun
1,000
Vanich Chaiyawan
930
Prayudh Mahagitsiri
900
Surang Prempree
790
Anant Asavabhokin
750
Keeree Kanjanapas
625
Prasert Prasarttong-Osoth
620
Somporn Juangroongruangkit
610
Thaksin Shinawatra & family
600
Boonchai Bencharongkul
550
Kraisorn Chansiri
460
Chamroon Chinthammit
440
William E. Heinecke
425
Sunsurn Jurangkool
420
Wit Viriyaprapaikit
380
Worawit Weeraborwornpong
360
Nishita Shah Federbush
340
Pongsak Viddayakorn
310
Prachai Leophairatana
300
Vicha Poolvaraluck
265
Nijaporn Charanachitta
260
Niti Osathanugrah
255
Roongroj Saengsastra
250
Pete Bodharanik
245
Premchai Karnasuta
240
Prateep Tangmatitham
230
Chalerm Yoovidhya
225
Vichai Raksriaksorn
210
Porndee Lee-Issaranukul
200
Virot Thanalongkorn
195
Hardly a Thai on that list. Plenty of Chinese though.
Posted 2012-02-10 22:01:06
ThailandMan, on 2012-02-10 05:45:12, said:
IsaanUSA, on 2012-02-08 22:20:45, said:
wintermute, on 2012-02-08 18:09:30, said:
100 families? I'd say it's less than 10 that own the majority of Thailand with everyone else on the bottom getting crumbs. If you look at the big corporate names that own everything (ie. CP) they own large subsidiaries everywhere in Thailand.
Thaksin is not even in the top 10, and he barely makes the top 20.
http://www.forbes.co...es-11_rank.html
Networth in US millions:
<snip>
Hardly a Thai on that list. Plenty of Chinese though.
I suppose the United States is full of Europeans, Mexicans and West Africans?
I may look like a German, my last name may be German, but I'm an American. My father is American, and my grandfathers are American.
Just because of somebody's name and appearance, doesn't mean they are from another country.
There are plenty of people in England that look like Indians, but they are in fact British.
Edited by IsaanUSA, 2012-02-10 22:01:23.
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