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SouthernMan3
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-06 18:21:12
Russians are practical people, who do not go bonkers with their money when they see women in Shorts or somone dancing around a pole. They also do not take crap for granted. They are the only ones who come here with a family and enjoy as a family! The gogo scene is not their cup of tea.....hard luck! Yea, Russians are "the only ones". Uh huh....... #52
Basil B
Super Member Posted 2012-02-06 18:32:19
Russia lashes back at greedy hoteliers Major Russian tour operators will no longer deal with hotels and companies in Thailand, Vietnam and India who were extorting money from the clients of the financially troubled Lanta Tour Voyage firm. On January 27 Lanta Tour said it was canceling its work effectively stranding over 3,000 Russian vacationers abroad with the managers of the hotels they stayed at trying to charge them double. (TASS) http://english.ruvr....4/65324632.html I think as already quoted, hotels do not get paid in advance by the tour operators, so presume they are asking the clients to guarantee payment as it is normally many weeks after that thay get paid, so really it is the Thai hoteliers who should be upset and not want to deal with Russian tour operators, as usual we see the Russian blaming the rest of the world for their problems. It has always been customary for hotels to ask for a card guarantee to cover potential costs such as room service for the duration of the stay. Edited by Basil B, 2012-02-06 18:35:05. #53
michael888
Advanced Member Posted 2012-02-06 18:46:45
Russian market, which is now the single largest source of inbound tourists to Phuket. Wow must be a lot of Russians running phuket now #54
waza
Tourist Posted 2012-02-06 22:22:42
Russia lashes back at greedy hoteliers Major Russian tour operators will no longer deal with hotels and companies in Thailand, Vietnam and India who were extorting money from the clients of the financially troubled Lanta Tour Voyage firm. On January 27 Lanta Tour said it was canceling its work effectively stranding over 3,000 Russian vacationers abroad with the managers of the hotels they stayed at trying to charge them double. (TASS) http://english.ruvr....4/65324632.html I think as already quoted, hotels do not get paid in advance by the tour operators, so presume they are asking the clients to guarantee payment as it is normally many weeks after that thay get paid, so really it is the Thai hoteliers who should be upset and not want to deal with Russian tour operators, as usual we see the Russian blaming the rest of the world for their problems. It has always been customary for hotels to ask for a card guarantee to cover potential costs such as room service for the duration of the stay. #55
Jimi007
Still A Beach Bum Posted 2012-02-06 22:36:38
Russian market, which is now the single largest source of inbound tourists to Phuket. Wow must be a lot of Russians running phuket now No, not until this high season, at least in my area. This year they seem to be everywhere on the entire island. #56
moskito
Super Member Posted 2012-02-06 23:20:47
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has instructed a state bank to bail out a bankrupt travel company that has left thousands of Russian tourists stranded abroad. Russia's VTB bank has confirmed it will issue a loan to Lanta-Tur Voyage to ensure that the tourists in Thailand, Vietnam, the Dominican Republic and other countries holding worthless travel vouchers from the company can return home. "We need to help this agency pay its foreign partners so our citizens can complete their vacations without any worry and return to their homeland according to their contracts with the agency, for the money they already paid," said Putin, who is the frontrunner in upcoming presidential elections scheduled for March 4. Putin instructed Russia's sports and tourism minister, Vitaly Mutko, to personally intervene in the case. http://www.rferl.org...r/24469945.html AHHHH GOOD ONE ---- THANKS MR. Vladimir Putin ... hope the idiots which are always complaining you are a gangster are healed now. Show me ONE politician in the western world having the nuts and the skills doing something like this .... Russia is closer to the most Europeans as the USA is btw.... #57
moskito
Super Member Posted 2012-02-06 23:29:25
Russians are practical people, who do not go bonkers with their money when they see women in Shorts or somone dancing around a pole. They also do not take crap for granted. They are the only ones who come here with a family and enjoy as a family! The gogo scene is not their cup of tea.....hard luck! Yea, Russians are "the only ones". Uh huh....... absolutely and I like that. Russians are the only ones you can see with a lot of kids around always....while the western guys and girls are more intrested in tattoing their bodys or racing the Thaistreets in Tourism Centers with Motobikes. May be they are not so open minded like most of the other Nationalities coming to Thailand but they just starting travelling the world...and ME for example met until now just normal people one can talk with from Russia...sometimes they seem a little bit arrogant but thats mostly because there is no English at all.... Bad luck for the Thais, the only people making money with them are the Hotels and the Supermarkets....like WE 20 years ago we liked to sit toghether in the evening drinking and talking....WE did not need bars or who_res to having some fun. Anyway, TaT should overthink its politics...if they ever had a clue....I doubt it since years...watch the traffic...TATs fault too....no power = wasted energy #58
moskito
Super Member Posted 2012-02-06 23:31:31
Note to ThaiVisaForum web masters: How about including a Spell Chacker with the text editor ? It is apparent that many contributors do not have time to check their valuable and erudite contributions before hitting the SEND button. Why do you not just switch to the NEXT post if you dont understand what people talking or typing about? Would you like to type in Thai? or German? or Italian or French? 
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housepainter
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-07 02:57:03
At least the German population in Phuket benefit. The Russians won't be coming anytime soon. Then again: The Russians are staying! The Russians are staying!
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bkk_mike
Family Man Posted 2012-02-07 03:30:33
I must say Congrats to Putin for stepping up and sorting things out.
I hope the Russian tour agencies are forced to do something similar to ABTA and develop and pay into an insurance fund so that a failed operator never results in stranded tourists again. As for why there are so many tourists from Russia. The simple reason is that they can get a visa on arrival and there are still lots of countries they can't fly to. #61
SouthernMan3
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-07 06:30:02
Russians are practical people, who do not go bonkers with their money when they see women in Shorts or somone dancing around a pole. They also do not take crap for granted. They are the only ones who come here with a family and enjoy as a family! The gogo scene is not their cup of tea.....hard luck! Yea, Russians are "the only ones". Uh huh....... absolutely and I like that. Russians are the only ones you can see with a lot of kids around always....while the western guys and girls are more intrested in tattoing their bodys or racing the Thaistreets in Tourism Centers with Motobikes. May be they are not so open minded like most of the other Nationalities coming to Thailand but they just starting travelling the world...and ME for example met until now just normal people one can talk with from Russia...sometimes they seem a little bit arrogant but thats mostly because there is no English at all.... Bad luck for the Thais, the only people making money with them are the Hotels and the Supermarkets....like WE 20 years ago we liked to sit toghether in the evening drinking and talking....WE did not need bars or who_res to having some fun. Anyway, TaT should overthink its politics...if they ever had a clue....I doubt it since years...watch the traffic...TATs fault too....no power = wasted energy So, what you are saying is that you've never seen whites (other then Russians) here on vacation with their families ? Bear in mind, I have been here 30 years..... Note : I also despise the drunken, tatooing, motorbike racing girl crazy falangs. Might be one reason that I live in an area with no falangs and no tourism..... Edited by SouthernMan3, 2012-02-07 06:31:59. #62
mayday49
Advanced Member Posted 2012-02-07 07:26:28
This is the ongoing distribution of Graft that fuels corupt behavior......some call this emulsion Babalon..............some can bearly hear the Words
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ableguy
Super Member Posted 2012-02-07 11:26:42
"The sitting guides were hired at a rate of 800 baht per day to ride along with the tour group in order to meet Thai labor law requirements, the source said." The law exists before they started business, Farang cannot be a tour guide in Thailand. They should have invest the money into training Thai guides understand Russian, not used Russians working illegally. We can't expect Thai's to learn all the languages that visit Thailand as effectively as is necessary, if the general level of competence in English is anything to go on then look out. Its a shame these people will have to bail themselves out. They have had a terrible past and for many I imagine its a holiday of a lifetime. Russian hookers are working in Pattaya openly so why not tour guides in Phuket ??????? #64
merlen10002
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-07 17:12:40
I have a business in a hotel in Pattaya, most of the customers are Russian in the hotel, some european, Thai and Chinese, the europeans spend a little, the Thais and Chinese spend nothing, the Russians are great customers and spend a lot and easy to please, I love the Russians the more the better, had a Russian G/F for 26 years, she was sensational, most marriages don't last that long.
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healthcaretaker
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-08 00:43:46
I have a business in a hotel in Pattaya, most of the customers are Russian in the hotel, some european, Thai and Chinese, the europeans spend a little, the Thais and Chinese spend nothing, the Russians are great customers and spend a lot and easy to please, I love the Russians the more the better, had a Russian G/F for 26 years, she was sensational, most marriages don't last that long. #66
spidermike007
spidermike007 Posted 2012-02-09 12:34:34
Soopakij Chearavanont, Russian Honorary Consul for Greater Phuket,and resident Thai genius has made a case that Russians will not be hurt over this, since they all have travel insurance, but the resorts are the ones who will truly suffer. Someone should explain to this simple minded goombah that many of the Russian tourists booked a package tour, as their funds were very limited, and that most travelers do not get travel insurance. Meanwhile the resort operators are faced with the hardship of only building one new resort this year, as they have lost a little bit of cash on this deal. At 60% of the rate, they are still covering their expenses, while the Russian travelers will probably never recover one baht. Typical Thai reasoning, with zero common sense. On this deal they seem to have lost all cash. Where did you get the 60% from? That was from the quote of Soopakij Chearavanont, Russian Honorary Consul for Greater Phuket,and resident Thai genius. He asked that the hotels take a discounted rate, and I am suggesting that a 40% discount would be more than likely what they would accept. #67
spidermike007
spidermike007 Posted 2012-02-09 12:36:27
Thailand Tourism Authority needs to really step up and make things right with these people 100%. Otherwise, the slogan "Amazing Thailand" will be changed to 'Unbelievable Thailand" You didn't get the memo? It is now "Miracle" Thailand  No, the best motto is "Amusing Thailand". It always seems to fit the bill, no matter what the circumstances are. And it is the best attitude for us all to maintain. #68
spidermike007
spidermike007 Posted 2012-02-09 12:39:36
I must say Congrats to Putin for stepping up and sorting things out. I hope the Russian tour agencies are forced to do something similar to ABTA and develop and pay into an insurance fund so that a failed operator never results in stranded tourists again. As for why there are so many tourists from Russia. The simple reason is that they can get a visa on arrival and there are still lots of countries they can't fly to. Putin could have used his personal cash for this, if he wanted. with over 20,000,000,000US in banks overseas, it would have meant nothing to him. #69
LivinginKata
Kata Posted 2012-02-09 17:21:12
Time to get rid of the 'spelling police' trollers. 3 posts gone ...
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