Posted 2012-02-06 21:36:05
 dean999, on 2012-02-06 17:17:23, said:
rubl, on 2012-02-06 16:50:28, said:
Soutpeel, on 2012-02-06 16:31:23, said:
So basically he is admitting last time round there were in fact extrajudicial killings.... 
Not at all. Basicly some voiced their concern that the "government's anti-drug campaign could lead to human rights violations or to extrajudicial killings by police." K. Chalerm is making sure that will not happen. No further indication of what happened in 2003-2004. For once not even speculation about that in this theNation article
Why do people keep banging on about violating a criminal's human rights. They shouldn't have any rights. Do they think about our rights when they are stealing from our houses or killing our family members with their poisonous drugs. NO.
Come on wake up.
You don't understand. They hadn't made it to court..they weren't convicted. They didn't even get a trial. Most were innocent. You're missing the point. If you just shoot people point blank you suspect, and take their rights/life, then you are no better than them. I take it you're new to Thailand?
Posted 2012-02-06 22:16:27
Barbed wire fences are worthless without proper surveillance and there just ain't (IMO) enough people (or even resolve) to do that.
Posted 2012-02-06 22:54:28
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newermonkey, on 2012-02-06 19:55:43, said:
What a shame... Extrajudicial Killings is one very good way to help tackle the problem.
What would you prefer. Some nasty scum bags being put down or your children's lives ruined?
Or your children's lives ruined because the police shoot you because they "suspect" that you are involved in the drug trade?
Posted 2012-02-06 22:58:51
So now he said there will be none.
So please, no excuses saying 'but the majority of the population supports it' if it occurs later, mkay?
Posted 2012-02-06 23:07:39
rubl, on 2012-02-06 20:58:46, said:
hellodolly, on 2012-02-06 19:21:40, said:
No the article does not hint at it but the statement itself does.
I notice there is no talk of police officers being arrested.
If there are no extra-judicial killings (this time), why would police officers need to be arrested? Unless they themselves deal in drugs of course
Bingo you got it.
Every dealer they take off the street increases their business.
Posted 2012-02-07 00:43:42
newermonkey, on 2012-02-06 19:55:43, said:
What a shame... Extrajudicial Killings is one very good way to help tackle the problem.
What would you prefer. Some nasty scum bags being put down or your children's lives ruined?
If you cannot raise your children to not ruin their lives with drugs you are the scum bag (or whatever you would like to call it here).
Drug dealers only exist because there is a demand, very simple... So if you care about your poor children, let them don't demand drugs for their poor lifes (simple again)
Edited by kawaiimomo, 2012-02-07 00:46:40.
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Posted 2012-02-07 02:30:53
Thaksin was heavily criticised over the violent deaths of more than 2,500 people during a crackdown on drugs in 2003, where he empowered the police to be the judge, the jury and the executioner. Thailand's Corruption Commission found he had failed to declare all of his wealth, and he was also criticised over the government's handling of the upsurge in violence in the largely Muslim south. He said that he will give evidences for the killing. I hear nothing till now.
Posted 2012-02-07 03:42:31
Chalerm says no extra-judicial killings, they committed suicide.
Edited by wxyz, 2012-02-07 03:42:45.
Posted 2012-02-07 04:52:07
He's in charge. He affirms. He's investigated. He's encouraging officers. He discloses. He states and he calls for. He states again and he mandates cooperation. My goodness, what leadership! It is clear that he is charge and in control. He's the man. He merely needs to state, affirm, acclaim, investigate, charge, call for and the public has total faith. That's a real leader, decisive, clear, visionary, passionate. He does it all. We are in good hands.
Posted 2012-02-07 11:33:07
Soutpeel, on 2012-02-06 16:59:10, said:
rubl, on 2012-02-06 16:50:28, said:
Soutpeel, on 2012-02-06 16:31:23, said:
So basically he is admitting last time round there were in fact extrajudicial killings....
Not at all. Basicly some voiced their concern that the "government's anti-drug campaign could lead to human rights violations or to extrajudicial killings by police." K. Chalerm is making sure that will not happen. No further indication of what happened in 2003-2004. For once not even speculation about that in this theNation article
But where else in the world would a deputy PM make a statement like this when talking about an anti-drug campaign unless it had happened before ?
Why would you want to give a heads-up in the first place if you were serious about a campaign? Usual stuff here, lay low until the heat is off and then business as usual
Posted 2012-02-07 11:59:43
kawaiimomo, on 2012-02-07 00:43:42, said:
newermonkey, on 2012-02-06 19:55:43, said:
What a shame... Extrajudicial Killings is one very good way to help tackle the problem.
What would you prefer. Some nasty scum bags being put down or your children's lives ruined?
If you cannot raise your children to not ruin their lives with drugs you are the scum bag (or whatever you would like to call it here).
Drug dealers only exist because there is a demand, very simple... So if you care about your poor children, let them don't demand drugs for their poor lifes (simple again)
The problem with your statement comes down to peer pressure. You can drum the anti-drugs line into your children (as you rightly should) all you like, but you do not have complete control at all times. When the kids reach adolesence and the hormones go mental, and the rebellion comes to the fore; this is their proving ground, and when (IMHO) they are at the most risk.
Posted 2012-02-07 12:14:30
It is FACT that the best (quality) drugs come from the police 
And this is TRUE, not only for Thailand, but all over the world. It is just a matter of money....
Nothing new under the sun 
Posted 2012-02-07 13:13:39
wxyz, on 2012-02-07 03:42:31, said:
Chalerm says no extra-judicial killings, they committed suicide.
So during this time of drug crackdown we can expect an increase in balcony diving ?
Posted 2012-02-07 13:23:18
dean999, on 2012-02-06 17:17:23, said:
rubl, on 2012-02-06 16:50:28, said:
Soutpeel, on 2012-02-06 16:31:23, said:
So basically he is admitting last time round there were in fact extrajudicial killings....
Not at all. Basicly some voiced their concern that the "government's anti-drug campaign could lead to human rights violations or to extrajudicial killings by police." K. Chalerm is making sure that will not happen. No further indication of what happened in 2003-2004. For once not even speculation about that in this theNation article
Why do people keep banging on about violating a criminal's human rights. They shouldn't have any rights. Do they think about our rights when they are stealing from our houses or killing our family members with their poisonous drugs. NO.
Come on wake up.
Perhaps in the wrong place at the wrong time, Instantly guilty, no process, no opportunity to explain anything .... is that what you want?
Posted 2012-02-07 19:20:28
scorecard, on 2012-02-07 13:23:18, said:
dean999, on 2012-02-06 17:17:23, said:
rubl, on 2012-02-06 16:50:28, said:
Soutpeel, on 2012-02-06 16:31:23, said:
So basically he is admitting last time round there were in fact extrajudicial killings....
Not at all. Basicly some voiced their concern that the "government's anti-drug campaign could lead to human rights violations or to extrajudicial killings by police." K. Chalerm is making sure that will not happen. No further indication of what happened in 2003-2004. For once not even speculation about that in this theNation article
Why do people keep banging on about violating a criminal's human rights. They shouldn't have any rights. Do they think about our rights when they are stealing from our houses or killing our family members with their poisonous drugs. NO.
Come on wake up.
Perhaps in the wrong place at the wrong time, Instantly guilty, no process, no opportunity to explain anything .... is that what you want?
That's what he says he wants...until it's a loved one. "Make your words sweet in case you one day have to eat them."
Posted 2012-02-07 21:30:22
chrisinth, on 2012-02-07 11:59:43, said:
kawaiimomo, on 2012-02-07 00:43:42, said:
newermonkey, on 2012-02-06 19:55:43, said:
What a shame... Extrajudicial Killings is one very good way to help tackle the problem.
What would you prefer. Some nasty scum bags being put down or your children's lives ruined?
If you cannot raise your children to not ruin their lives with drugs you are the scum bag (or whatever you would like to call it here).
Drug dealers only exist because there is a demand, very simple... So if you care about your poor children, let them don't demand drugs for their poor lifes (simple again)
The problem with your statement comes down to peer pressure. You can drum the anti-drugs line into your children (as you rightly should) all you like, but you do not have complete control at all times. When the kids reach adolesence and the hormones go mental, and the rebellion comes to the fore; this is their proving ground, and when (IMHO) they are at the most risk.
Very well put.
Posted 2012-02-08 06:09:14
wxyz said:
Does he ever speak the truth?
Absolutely not. He's paid not to. The Shin clan has to rely on this type of person to support their ever expanding web of lies. Before the coup, all of the semi-decent people had jumped ship and T was basically surrounded by hardcore criminals, I seem to remember. Chalerm is the backbone of the current 'scam (I was going to say govt. but 'scam' seems strangely more appropriate).
Posted 2012-02-08 08:11:52
People who approve of the killings, must also believe everyone is guilty until proved innocent.
Edited by Mosha, 2012-02-08 08:38:45.
Posted 2012-02-08 15:06:36
On a lighter note: will there be many suicides instead?
But serious:
1) shooting someone in a kind of lynch- justice, is not the way. Bring them to court, get them into jail.
2) they are humans, so they have human rights! Period!
3) just shooting some dealers will not solve the problem. Education is needed.
Posted 2012-02-09 10:26:27
May I ad to my previous post: we all know, there is no prostitution in Thailand...but educating bar- and gogo girls about what they are doing to themselves (drug - wise) might be a good idea. If only 10% will have their eyes opened, a whole market may crash...
...on the other hand: TIT!
Posted 2012-02-11 16:35:51
DocN, on 2012-02-08 15:06:36, said:
On a lighter note: will there be many suicides instead?
But serious:
1) shooting someone in a kind of lynch- justice, is not the way. Bring them to court, get them into jail.
2) they are humans, so they have human rights! Period!
3) just shooting some dealers will not solve the problem. Education is needed.
If they want to shoot the drug dealers, start at the TOP, but then they would have to shoot themselves.
Edited by z12, 2012-02-11 16:36:00.
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