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[george]

Here another update from Nation Channel, in Thai language:

http://breakingnews....356&lang=T&cat=

and here another story in Thai language:
http://www.naewna.co...s.asp?ID=299886

[wxyz]

george, on 2012-02-06 21:07:59, said:

Here another update from Nation Channel, in Thai language:

http://breakingnews....356&lang=T&cat=

and here another story in Thai language:
http://www.naewna.co...s.asp?ID=299886

They say he left a note in English and Thai?
Supposedly over an 800,000 baht hospital bill, doubtful.
That also seems strange as does jumping to your death naked.
There are plenty of painless ways to check out,

Have to rename Pattaya/Thailand 'Hotel California', you can check out any time you'd like but you can never leave.

He should have watched this film.
"Leaving Las Vegas" (1995)

For the public record, I did not commit suicide, should I be found dead in Thailand.

Edited by wxyz, 2012-02-06 21:39:53.

[sirchai]

This is becoming all too common in Pattaya and sadly the Police seem to put them all down to suicide. Investigations are needed to shed some light on these incidents.

Please see: http://rick-allthing...g.blogspot.com/  

Edited by Rimmer, 2012-02-06 22:55:37.
Commercial links removed

[KeyserSoze01]

The usual arguments from the usual suspects.

Let's look at the information provided. A foreign national, who was a managing director for one of the world's most successful companies travels to Thailand where he owns a condo in sin city by the sea. He becomes depressed, possibly due to a medical condition. Due to his depressed state, some surmise that he took his own life in a most horrible way.

Once again, I don't buy the story. A person of this stature, with resources available would not end their life in this way. Anyone who attains this level in a global corporation has ego, drive, desire, a will to succeed and self respect. The last item, self respect, would prevent a person from doing this to themselves, knowing that it would destory any image this person held with friends, family, co-workers. Their legacy would be that of a person so weak, that they took their own life, laying naked on the ground.

I'm going with the canned story that he was intoxicated and either fell over the railing or was pushed. The fact that he was naked makes me lean toward his being pushed.

[TimPartridge]

Look past the obvious jokes and consider for a moment what this guy has done in the last 15 years for adventure and extreme sports. He sponsored activities that other companies were too scared to become associated with.

Let's hope that his spirit lives on and remember him as a man who gave many people the opportunities to pursue extreme sports and achieve their dreams.

Thanks Harald - thinking of you tonight..

Edited by Rimmer, 2012-02-06 22:57:14.
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[bhatmasterson]

I am to the point where when I read about an alleged suicide by jumping, I'm surprised if the deceased was wearing clothes at the time of his demise. Yes. A great number of people in the west commit suicide by jumping. But I don't remember the last time I read of a single one of them doing it naked.

There appears to be some unseen force in Thailand that makes foreign men disrobe before calmly stepping oft to meet their final destiny. It happens this way far too often IMO.

So there was medicine at the scene. It doesn't take a genius to plant medicine that would suggest a person is terminally ill. An antagonist with money and the right connections could probably make a prescription look pretty official.

I agree with everyone who thinks there is something wrong with the official story. There is definitely room for doubt.

[bitterbatter]

travelinasia, on 2012-02-06 18:11:58, said:

Suicide by jumping off a building, it is pretty rare outside of Thailand isn't it? Whether clothed or naked, I just don't hear of it happening on such a large scale anywhere else?

It happens a lot on Wall Street. Not to mention the 150 disgrunteld employess in China that threatened to jump from the factory roof where they make iPhones for slave wages.

As for the man in this article. Sorry he chose this way to end it. I honestly don't understand why they published the particular fact that he was naked. Seems quite impolite and unnecessary.

Edited by bitterbatter, 2012-02-06 22:31:02.

[wxyz]

bhatmasterson, on 2012-02-06 22:16:27, said:

I am to the point where when I read about an alleged suicide by jumping, I'm surprised if the deceased was wearing clothes at the time of his demise. Yes. A great number of people in the west commit suicide by jumping. But I don't remember the last time I read of a single one of them doing it naked.

There appears to be some unseen force in Thailand that makes foreign men disrobe before calmly stepping oft to meet their final destiny. It happens this way far too often IMO.

So there was medicine at the scene. It doesn't take a genius to plant medicine that would suggest a person is terminally ill. An antagonist with money and the right connections could probably make a prescription look pretty official.

I agree with everyone who thinks there is something wrong with the official story. There is definitely room for doubt.

Exactly, and if he had pills, he could have used them to off himself with some alcohol, why get naked and jump, very strange. Hell, just a few viagra and alcohol can take you out pretty cleanly and painlessly.

Edited by wxyz, 2012-02-06 22:25:30.

[vahack]

a lot of assumptions that it was suicide because of cancer. i didnt read that in the article.

all i read is another farang falls to his death from a pattaya balcony.

[jshorts]

wxyz, on 2012-02-06 20:31:04, said:

Where is the SUICIDE NOTE?

Why do you feel there has to be a suicide note?

[bitterbatter]

On a side note. I have been around a friend who is involved with a lot of construction throughout Thailand and he commented how they love to make balcony rails too low, just below the waist. I slight stumble close to the rail can have dire consequences. As for being on the balcony naked, who doesn't like to do that sometimes?

[jshorts]

dude007, on 2012-02-06 20:35:39, said:

wpcoe, on 2012-02-06 18:07:55, said:

There seems to be an implication from the article that this was suicide over health issues.

I don't know.  If I were about to throw myself off a balcony to "end it all," I don't think I'd do it naked?

Regardless, RIP, Mr. Schmidberger.

I share your view!  If someone wants to end his life, why should he first undress?  What is the purpose of this act?  I suspect more than suicide...

But let's keep it clean as the moderators asked for.  It's deeply regretted but very suspicious!

What makes you feel that someone who is single isn't already undressed? Why would you suspect more than suicide?

[Foggy Dew]

I do not think this man was the MD of the Red Bull Gmbh Company. I doubt he was high up in the Red Bull management structure, there is no mention of him on the Red Bull website. They are talking about the Red Bull Cliff Diving Qualifiers on the home page but I don’t think he was a contestant.

Does anyone know if this man was the MD of the Red Bull Gmbh Company or the MD of some branch of Red Bull.

I apologise if I am way off the mark here, but when I see posts thanking him for all he has done for extreme sports and I cannot see any strong links that he in fact was the MD of Red Bull, well I have to question...

[Rimmer]

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[wxyz]

jshorts, on 2012-02-06 22:48:54, said:

BigJohnnyBKK, on 2012-02-06 20:44:56, said:

jshorts, on 2012-02-06 19:01:16, said:

It is, indeed, a cowardly act.

Jerk - how about some pity rather than disdain? And who are you to judge, if someone chooses to end their life that's their decision.

Not that I think this is actually suicide anyway, seems to be the standard way to dispatch troublesome farang in Pattaya, must be dozens per month given the ones that don't make the press we see, dangerous place to live.

And the connection with wealth is obvious - that much more motivation; even if it isn't a case of "follow the money", a rich man has more opportunities to seriously interfere with powerful evil people, and more likely to be mixing in those circles.

Formula to happiness in the LOS: keep your lifestyle low to the ground, keep your head down, don't mess with anyone's rice bowl, if you're rich keep it secret.

"Jerk"? (I'm going to add that to the list; so far I have been called "simple minded" and "thick.")

I don't find that pity is called for when someone commits suicide. Neither did I express any disdain. You have read too much in my comment.

And, yes, I do find suicide a cowardly act.

Further, because a wealthy man dies, you appears to automatically imagine that he must have been mixing with powerful evil people?

You have a very active imagination.

The mods may have suspended them for calling you names.

As it happens they are claiming there was a note on another link written in both Thai and English but not German.
"The Languages of Austria include German, the official language and lingua franca, Austro-Bavarian, the main language outside Vorarlberg, Alemannic, the main language in Vorarlberg, and several minority languages."

The link is in Thai
http://breakingnews....356&lang=T&cat=

Edited by wxyz, 2012-02-06 23:09:58.

[rakman]

jshorts, on 2012-02-06 19:05:34, said:

crazydrummerpauly, on 2012-02-06 18:48:31, said:

EvolvingApe, on 2012-02-06 18:27:49, said:

wpcoe, on 2012-02-06 18:07:55, said:

There seems to be an implication from the article that this was suicide over health issues.

I don't know.  If I were about to throw myself off a balcony to "end it all," I don't think I'd do it naked?

Regardless, RIP, Mr. Schmidberger.

You can understand that a terminally ill person might choose the time and place for their end, but not that they might choose to do it naked?

Splitting hairs aren't you?

Missing the inference completely : 'naked' meaning perhaps not alone at the time, and further, perhaps not suicide.

Why would you imagine that naked means not alone? Plenty of people who live alone don't wear clothes.

Many people commit suicde naked.. We come into the world naked, maybe they wish to leave the same way.

The seriously depressed mind is difficult to understand.

Very sad for his family and friends.

[mayday49]

Mr. Schmidberger no doubt deserves our collective respect...  facing the consequence of his mortality, he may have been a lonely man, as his health became diminshed... it seems he was a single man as the report mention nothing about Family....My friends ,know this, "let the dead bury the dead".....the rest of us from some commentary are better suited as critics for grade B movies and spell-checkers for the Oxford Dicksonary...

[WarpSpeed]

Silom, on 2012-02-06 17:51:05, said:

Isn't Red Bull not originated in TH? Krating Daeng

But partnered, originally funded and marketed by an Austrian, I'd need to look further to know if he was THAT Austrian..

Edited by WarpSpeed, 2012-02-06 23:43:22.

[WarpSpeed]

vahack, on 2012-02-06 22:36:44, said:

a lot of assumptions that it was suicide because of cancer. i didnt read that in the article.

all i read is another farang falls to his death from a pattaya balcony.

Nope cancer can cause sudden dizziness or loss of balance without warning especially in advance stages as the calcium levels rise in the body from the tumors growth and cancers advancement, but of course anything is possible.

How's this for more ironic thought, Red Bull just finally one an F1 Championship....

Edited by WarpSpeed, 2012-02-06 23:50:02.

[wxyz]

And then there is this about red bull killing people, maybe a victims family member tossed him naked off the balcony. http://www.hartford-...ves/36/211.html

Edited by wxyz, 2012-02-06 23:41:57.

[Monaro]

A real curse that red bull on our kids....I see kids drinking it for breakfast

[DoctorG]

BigJohnnyBKK, on 2012-02-06 20:44:56, said:

jshorts, on 2012-02-06 19:01:16, said:

It is, indeed, a cowardly act.

Jerk - how about some pity rather than disdain? And who are you to judge, if someone chooses to end their life that's their decision.

Not that I think this is actually suicide anyway, seems to be the standard way to dispatch troublesome farang in Pattaya, must be dozens per month given the ones that don't make the press we see, dangerous place to live.

And the connection with wealth is obvious - that much more motivation; even if it isn't a case of "follow the money", a rich man has more opportunities to seriously interfere with powerful evil people, and more likely to be mixing in those circles.

Formula to happiness in the LOS: keep your lifestyle low to the ground, keep your head down, don't mess with anyone's rice bowl, if you're rich keep it secret.

absolutely +1

[LennyW]

WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-06 23:41:05, said:

Nope cancer can cause sudden dizziness or loss of balance without warning especially in advance stages as the calcium levels rise in the body from the tumors growth and cancers advancement, but of course anything is possible.

How's this for more ironic thought, Red Bull just finally one an F1 Championship....

They have not "just" won an F1 Championship, they were winners for the last 2 years in a row!

[Rainmon]

Being on pain meds he could have been disoriented and dizzy then in a depressed state he could have been leaning on the railing and fell, i don't like getting close to my condo balcony railing at all if i have been drinking. There was a case about 3 months ago where a 25 year old German on holiday fell from a 7th floor balcony "They surmise that the dead man had been drinking and had simply fallen off of the balcony and do not suspect foul play in any way". But an investigation into who will benefit from this man's wealth should be done. RIP.

Edited by Rainmon, 2012-02-07 07:33:31.

[Docno]

travelinasia, on 2012-02-06 18:11:58, said:

Suicide by jumping off a building, it is pretty rare outside of Thailand isn't it? Whether clothed or naked, I just don't hear of it happening on such a large scale anywhere else?

Nah, quite common down in here Singapore too. Lots of tall building and depressed/stressed people. Though over the last year, a number of people have taken to drowning themselves in our water reservoirs. Almost one a month now.

Sad that people reach this point of despair....