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How Get Passport For Thai/Uk Child If Father Not About


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#26 ludditeman

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Posted 2012-02-09 14:52:30

@Mickey
Problem is we've all heard this story a million times, often the accused guy is nothing to do with the child, just wishful thinking by the woman (or she had so many customers around the time that has no idea who the father is).
Next problem, the girl my not have any interest in finding any father, but interested in hitting you up for some loans to 'help her'
The Thai courts won't help you at all because, they don't recognise the child has a father, they think the girl is a slut (having a baby without being married is a big official no no here), they don't want the kid to get a foreign passport.
Child support in Thailand is a bad joke, it usually costs far more in legal fees than could ever be recovered in maintenance payments

Mario is always hopelessly optomistic in these cases, but really it is just a waste of time and money because nothing productive will ever happen, and he isn't spending his money.

Edited by ludditeman, 2012-02-09 14:54:00.


#27 Mario2008

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Posted 2012-02-09 21:49:49

The problem is that some people think that all woman are sluts and that all Thai woman are bargirls and want to read more into a post than is actually said.

For a paternity suit and child maintenance, who and what the mother does is completely irrelevant. Even if the mother would be a prostitute. (reminds me of a German case in which a woman had 3 lovers who could be the father of the child. All three had to submit DNA and the father was thus found and next ordered to pay child support).
It is the child that is the issue and on whoes rights are being determined. That is no different in a Thai court. The mother is simply irrelevant, the only question is if the person is indeed the father of the child.

Child support is low in Thailand, but does include medical and educational cost to be shared. And that can be a considerable amount. Enforcing it is no problem, a Thai court can and will order an employer to pay the child maintence directly to the mother, and the rest to the father.
As a foreigner, the father doesn't want to get on the wrong side of a Thai judge anyway. He could find himself in contempt and doing time and be declared persona non-grata as a result. (With the enforcement of the child maintenance being taken over by the British government when he returns to the UK).

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Posted 2012-02-10 08:43:58

View PostMario2008, on 2012-02-09 21:49:49, said:

As a foreigner, the father doesn't want to get on the wrong side of a Thai judge anyway. He could find himself in contempt and doing time and be declared persona non-grata as a result. (With the enforcement of the child maintenance being taken over by the British government when he returns to the UK).

We're a bit off topic now, but even in the UK child maintenance awards are not all that easy to collect.
You have to be in a job where you are making NI contributions for the courts even to award payments at all.
Only 40% of those awards are ever collected, but at least in the UK it doesn't cost the mother much to get the award.

#29 Mario2008

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Posted 2012-02-10 09:23:19

I don't know about collection in the UK, but a Thai court decision will be respected by a UK court under international treaty. There is probably no need for a new Uk court decision. But of course the father could seek a change of the amount of maintenance. That will however cost him money in court fees, with an unsure outcome. The court might even order him to pay more, depending on the situation and if the child puts in a counter claim for adjustment.



 


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