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[meatboy]

do you think lancaster gate will get this one right? the greatest english manager of all time never got the job[brian clough] public opinion wont sway the f.a.they want a yes man with no balls.harry will do for me.taffy

[carmine]

Its all a load of cobblers and they should give it to the obvious choice,  Ricky Tomlinson.

[mrbojangles]

Play nice chaps. No name calling or flaming.

[StevieH]

MrRed, on 2012-02-09 10:40:18, said:

Exactly mate that's why it makes sense to give it to Pearce,expectation will be low and maybe he could surprise a few people with his no nonsense attitude(passion),the players respect him and he needs time ....he being the only candidate that will be afforded this in my opinion.

you may be talking total sense mate, the expectation level certainly needs something doing to it and pearce in for the euros would lower that level more than redknapp being in there would.

ian holloway isn't a bad call as it goes. alan pardew? nigel clough? sven goran eriksson?

the one that would make me laugh most would of course be roy hodgson.

[MrRed]

meatboy, on 2012-02-09 10:42:36, said:

do you think lancaster gate will get this one right? the greatest english manager of all time never got the job[brian clough] public opinion wont sway the f.a.they want a yes man with no balls.harry will do for me.taffy

Pearce had 10 years with Cloughy at Forest,not a bad education in his early days,i would just like to see psycho managing England

[StevieH]

meatboy, on 2012-02-09 10:42:36, said:

do you think lancaster gate will get this one right? the greatest english manager of all time never got the job[brian clough] public opinion wont sway the f.a.they want a yes man with no balls.harry will do for me.taffy

i don't really think you could say that fabio capello was a yes man with no balls. similarly previous england manager appointments either really.

think you need a very special manager to do the england job well. got to manage the biggest player egos in international football and a squad of overpaid primadonnas, a truly vile and scum-ridden media and an incompetent, self-serving FA. think it's almost the impossible job really.

[MrRed]

mrbojangles, on 2012-02-09 10:48:16, said:

Play nice chaps. No name calling or flaming.

Psycho!!  

[KamalaDreamer]

Listen up guys. You are sounding like a bunch of guys sitting around a table in Lancaster Gate.

Just like me.

The decision should be made by people who have done it, not punters or politicians.

[2unique]

MrRed, on 2012-02-09 10:42:29, said:

Ok.......I have got it..........give it Ian Holloway,happy days.

If being English was the criteria
I'd put Pulis ahead of Ian Holloway - I'd like to see what he could do with better resources.

Mourinhio to Arsenal and Wenger into the England set up developing Pearce's youngsters into Pulis/'Arry's squad - Can't see any of that happening but makes as much sense as Hodgson being joint 2nd favourite for the position.

[Thaddeus]

Gers1873, on 2012-02-09 08:47:56, said:

Harry seems like the logical choice which means the FA are probably talking to Glenn Hoddle

quality.

[StevieH]

2unique, on 2012-02-09 11:10:43, said:

If being English was the criteria
I'd put Pulis ahead of Ian Holloway - I'd like to see what he could do with better resources.

pulis is the most interesting shout i've heard yet.

[theblether]

MrRed, on 2012-02-09 10:13:44, said:

Pearce is a no brainer and will have the country behind him,expectation will be reasonable with him taking over now and if the FA follow there long term plan and not what the media want then we could have a good future with Pearce.

Sorry can't see it........he's done nothing, won nothing, he's most famous for a penalty miss and he needs to bring more to the table to deserve this job. If he gets it before Harry then it is a travesty.

By the way, to the earlier poster talking about Harrys academic ability..........the game is called football, not University Challenge, it is a rank rotten below the belt insult to decry the man for not being an academic type.

In fact I would go as far as to say that it is all the more reason why he should be manager because it will give hope to all those who struggle at school. I hope he gets the job, I hope he uses his football acumen and wins the Euros, and I hope they make it into a Hollywood movie.

Incidentally, you may also note that I am Scottish, and I am a Scottish Nationalist Party supporter at that..........I have a shock for some English compatriots, we Scots are not anti-English, we are anti Little Englander.

Harry Rednapp represents the best of England, he is a man's man, a working class boy that has served his time, and a gentleman to boot, bring me 50 million Harry Rednapps and drown the Little Englanders at birth.

[StevieH]

theblether, on 2012-02-09 11:59:41, said:

I have a shock for some English compatriots, we Scots are not anti-English, we are anti Little Englander.

with respect mate i don't think you speak for all of scotland there.

i always liked renton's speech in trainspotting. i don't hate the english, they're just wanke_rs. we on the other hand are colonised by wanke_rs. can't even find a decent culture to be colonised by, we're ruled by effete arseholes.

seemed spot on to me.

[2unique]

Martin O'Neill is almost English enough for the FA to find him palateable - I wonder if the timing of taking the Sunderland job throws him out of contention. Or maybe they dislike a man who wears Cloughie like jumpers due to painful reminders of the travesty of Clough never getting the nod.

Not sure I like Redknapp for the role but Redknapp with a strong "tactician" second could be quite exciting - who would take it tho, Pearce, Robson, Hughs, Hughton, Clough junior, Sven ...

[carmine]

2unique, on 2012-02-09 12:37:09, said:

Martin O'Neill is almost English enough for the FA to find him palateable - I wonder if the timing of taking the Sunderland job throws him out of contention. Or maybe they dislike a man who wears Cloughie like jumpers due to painful reminders of the travesty of Clough never getting the nod.

Not sure I like Redknapp for the role but Redknapp with a strong "tactician" second could be quite exciting - who would take it tho, Pearce, Robson, Hughs, Hughton, Clough junior, Sven ...

Redknapps not a strong tactician.   His strengths lie in being a fantastic man manager.

I don't think the England job would go well for him as he wouldn't be spending enough time with the players whereas at Spurs he sees them everyday and has bonded them into an indredibly strong unit.  

I also find it strange that Capello has been taking so much stick as i believe he has the highest win ratio of all previous england managers but maybe i misread that.  Can anyone confirm?

[uptheos]

theblether, on 2012-02-09 03:49:13, said:

Anyway......Rednapp for England.......he can then start doing the right thing by sacking the cancer at the heart of the team......Terry out ( forever ) Ferdinand out, Ashley Cole out, Lampard out, and that is just a start........

Agreed, maybe Capello will follow his mates to Chelsea?

Edited by uptheos, 2012-02-09 13:07:57.

[Bangkokhatter]

I thought O'Neill should have got the job after Sven went, how the F.A gave it to a man who failed alongside Sven was ludicrous. O'Neill has worked most of his career in England and there are not many other options.
Redknapp is not the answer nor Pearce, just look at the kids showing in the last tournament, could only get them so far on passion alone, tacticlly left wanting.
Who-ever mentioned Pullis ? not a bad shout, sets his teams up well and adjusts his tactics to suit certain opposition and does semm to be able to motivate, which should not really be needed...I mean who would need motivating to play for your country !

[mrbojangles]

StevieH, on 2012-02-09 12:08:27, said:

theblether, on 2012-02-09 11:59:41, said:

I have a shock for some English compatriots, we Scots are not anti-English, we are anti Little Englander.

with respect mate i don't think you speak for all of scotland there.

i always liked renton's speech in trainspotting. i don't hate the english, they're just wanke_rs. we on the other hand are colonised by wanke_rs. can't even find a decent culture to be colonised by, we're ruled by effete arseholes.

seemed spot on to me.

All this time you have been on here, you have been successfully pretending to be English. Now your cover has finally been blown and you are indeed a Sottish Scouser.

[uptheos]

AVB has been crap at Chelsea and we all remember Roy Hodgson at Liverpool (and WBA can still go down)........sort of makes them the two hot favourites with the FA.

Edited by uptheos, 2012-02-09 13:39:02.

[Abrak]

StevieH, on 2012-02-09 10:48:26, said:

MrRed, on 2012-02-09 10:40:18, said:

Exactly mate that's why it makes sense to give it to Pearce,expectation will be low and maybe he could surprise a few people with his no nonsense attitude(passion),the players respect him and he needs time ....he being the only candidate that will be afforded this in my opinion.

you may be talking total sense mate, the expectation level certainly needs something doing to it and pearce in for the euros would lower that level more than redknapp being in there would.

ian holloway isn't a bad call as it goes. alan pardew? nigel clough? sven goran eriksson?

the one that would make me laugh most would of course be roy hodgson.

I am with you there with Roy Hodgson. I think many Liverpool fans feel he should be appointed to the job. Quite often at Anfield Liverpool supporters openly chanted 'Hodgson for England'.

He has 37 years of experience and has already managed 3 international teams as well as a total of 16 teams.

He is extremely good at lowering supporters expectations which I feel is needed at the moment.

He will stick with the older more experienced players but that is just the way he is.

[rixalex]

StevieH, on 2012-02-09 10:50:34, said:

got to manage the biggest player egos in international football and a squad of overpaid primadonnas, a truly vile and scum-ridden media and an incompetent, self-serving FA. think it's almost the impossible job really.

The over-sized ego thing is hardly unique to the England boys, and to say that English players have the biggest egos of all, for me doesn't correlate with the behaviour of the big Premiership names, English versus foreign.

Got no problem with the description you paint of the England team, just think the implication you make by only ever highlighting and targeting England's woes, that other national teams are full of modest, down to earth players on modest incomes, with balanced professional media and competent, selfless, uncorrupted football associations, is a bit of a nonsense.

England just gets a lot more exposure, particually in circles such as these in which there are a lot of Brits about, but are things really that much better elsewhere? I don't imagine so.

Hating England seems to almost be a lifestyle choice for some these days and anyone who doesn't deemed a bit uncool. That's the impression i get anyway.

[smokie36]

KamalaDreamer, on 2012-02-09 07:34:29, said:

Not sure if that's a compliment or an insult.

Previous posts from you suggest it's more likely to be an insult.

First instinct is usually the right one.

I believe in giving value for money.

[StevieH]

carmine, on 2012-02-09 12:47:23, said:

Redknapps not a strong tactician.   His strengths lie in being a fantastic man manager.

I don't think the England job would go well for him as he wouldn't be spending enough time with the players whereas at Spurs he sees them everyday and has bonded them into an indredibly strong unit.  

I also find it strange that Capello has been taking so much stick as i believe he has the highest win ratio of all previous england managers but maybe i misread that.  Can anyone confirm?

reckon that's a spot on summary of redknapp.

and yes, capello's record is the highest matches won %age of any england manager. flopped badly at the 2010 world cup but he's certainly been more successful than most. but he's undoubtedly been far too foreign for the english press to ever give him any leeway whatsoever.

mrbojangles, on 2012-02-09 13:28:45, said:

All this time you have been on here, you have been successfully pretending to be English. Now your cover has finally been blown and you are indeed a Sottish Scouser.

hah, no mate. mongrel and proud of it me. irish, english, french, scots and welsh in these veins combining to make 100% woolyback.

[smokie36]

KamalaDreamer, on 2012-02-09 10:59:06, said:

Listen up guys. You are sounding like a bunch of guys sitting around a table in Lancaster Gate.

Just like me.

The decision should be made by people who have done it, not punters or politicians.

Be a nice chap and close the door on the way out.

[StevieH]

rixalex, on 2012-02-09 13:50:53, said:

StevieH, on 2012-02-09 10:50:34, said:

got to manage the biggest player egos in international football and a squad of overpaid primadonnas, a truly vile and scum-ridden media and an incompetent, self-serving FA. think it's almost the impossible job really.

The over-sized ego thing is hardly unique to the England boys, and to say that English players have the biggest egos of all, for me doesn't correlate with the behaviour of the big Premiership names, English versus foreign.

Got no problem with the description you paint of the England team, just think the implication you make by only ever highlighting and targeting England's woes, that other national teams are full of modest, down to earth players on modest incomes, with balanced professional media and competent, selfless, uncorrupted football associations, is a bit of a nonsense.

England just gets a lot more exposure, particually in circles such as these in which there are a lot of Brits about, but are things really that much better elsewhere? I don't imagine so.

Hating England seems to almost be a lifestyle choice for some these days and anyone who doesn't deemed a bit uncool. That's the impression i get anyway.

i think that the spanish squad for example has far more bona fide stars in it and yet their team manages to play as a cohesive unit. given that a lot of english players have plenty of ability, can only eventually put their consistent failures at international level down to attitudes and mentality.

it's not a lifestyle choice. it's a combination of a lot of factors, not least the three lions tubthumping garbage that comes around every tournament. the we invented the game so we must by rights deserve to do well in tournaments nonsense. the premier league is the best league in the world hype which somehow means england must be brilliant by default. the casual xenophobia displayed by the country's neanderthal-courting media. the well these lads are paid a fortune so must be better than them american part-timers etc. the disgusting golf club that is the FA. everything about the england national football team set-up just stinks really. couldn't care less whether that view of them is deemed to be 'cool' or not. i've very rarely if ever been 'cool'.