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[ALFREDO]

samran, on 2012-02-12 05:05:30, said:

ALFREDO, on 2012-02-12 02:30:09, said:

NewlyMintedThai
I have children with Thais, but until Nov 2009 and as I was not 50 and retired I must constantly travel and apply for Touristvisas.
Since 2009 its easyer now, could apply for Non Immigrant -O-

Anyway, I, for many years was on a constantly coming and going to fit in the regulations.

I don't understand. If you had children in Thailand and presumably you were married there you'd have been ways to extend your stay in country.

First, I am not married,but have children and I was not 50 year old and not retired. In that circumstances, the Immigration laws did not care if you had childen with a Thai or not.
A Non Immigrant O was not possible until November 2009.
You only could apply for a extension of stay for the reason that you had children with Thai citicen, but also not indifinetely.
You had from time to time to leave the country to make a borderrun or a new Touristvisa.
Since Nov. 2009 the possibilitys and restrictions changed, you can now also under 50 and unmarried go for a Non Immigrant O.
Was it in Nov 2009 enough than to show a valid birthcertificate from your child with yourself as a father,
so are now some more papers necessary to achieve a Goal and a Non Immigrant O!

[moe666]

miksguevara, on 2012-02-12 12:57:19, said:

moe666, on 2012-02-12 11:25:27, said:

wayned, on 2012-02-12 09:38:15, said:

The sub topic of this post is "why can't we pay the fees in Thailand".

Answer: economics

I was in Singapore a few years ago and was caught in a traffic jam.  I was travelling with a government official.
The reason for the traffic jam was that they were widening the road.  There were women with hammers making large stones into small stones and others putting them in wheelbarrows and others packing them down to make the road bed.  I asked the official why they didn't use modern equipment and his answer was "if we did they wouldn't have jobs.

It would be great for the people who benefit from it, but what happens to the people whose jobs would be  now redundant?

Thats the interesting thing about asians they think it is important to keep people working as in the west put as many out of work to cut cost.I think I like the first equation better.

the idea is you educate and train the population to do more technical jobs like designing and building said machines its called progress..its how countries move on

Yes progress is good but there are always a segement of the population who will not or cannot make progress and they need jobs as well.Keeping people working keeps them off the barracaids.

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I disagree with your vision of work. Pushing your logic to the edges when a dictators who is giving work to thousands of torturers is pushed out, it is a bad news because the torturers are now unemployed....
Work is something mandatory for most people survival because the profit that come from automation is not redistributed but concentrated in some pockets. This is causing a systemic problem because the missing salary is replaced by debt, "enslaving" more and more people and creating a debt buble.
Work on top of income generation is also giving to people a social appartenance. But work is unfortunatelly rarely elevating human being. Some have dreamed of a society where we could spend our time to learning new things, spend time with ou beloved, practicing arts... And work would be just at bare minimum. In fact today's  techniques make this dream possible but it seems that it is not the human being destiny, we want MORE, first more humans (x2 every 30 years) more and biger cars houses, boats, planes more $£¥â‚¬.
About money it is intersting that we all run for it but there is very little to read or sea about the real nature of money.
During the collonisation of africa, english Colons encontered a problem. They took the land and wrote title over it but slavery was forbidden. So they offer £ salaries to the local poppulation. The locals had no interest into £ they had their simple life and where happy so only a few accepted to work for money so that was no good for the business. Then they had an idea, since there where no interest in £ they created a tax in £ for everyone that if not paid will sent you in jail. The only way to get the £ was to WORK for the colons...