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Smoke, Smog, Dust 2012 Chiang Mai

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Since there are three running topics on this important subject I felt it would be better to have one topic centralizing the on going information and data. Members can report the conditions in their area and updates of the pollution numbers (PCD) and questions in this topic. Also published news updates regarding local conditions.

Regional Daily Air Quality Data

aqmthai.com Air Quality Index

Previous topics on the subject:

Dusty Season Opening

Exactly How is the air quality in Chiang Mai?

Smog Threats in Chiang Mai Province

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Makes me glad I am off to Bali next week for three weeks. I don't see anything there. I hope the rainy season starts before I get back.

David

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great map thanks! wish it was a bit more high resolution but I guess the sheer number of red spots tell us what we also know when we look out the window - air quality is currently taking a steep dive.

I live on canal road and I can't see Doi Suthep. It's that bad.

I am out of here in a month, so will have to suffer through this for now. I'll be surprised if we don't have to take the kids to the hospital for some lung-related infection within the next month.

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That map should be posted everywhere on the internet,it is a disgrace that this is going on here in Thailand so long with very little action from from the authorities.Forgt the terrorist warnings,this smog is much more dangerous and to many more people,

Roll on the rain!

What action would you suggest?

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It appears that the Vietnamese are more advanced than Thailand and neighbors, at least from the point of view of no fires. (But also that the Chinese government not so.)

Perhaps northern Vietnam will become the next favourite for expats?

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It appears that the Vietnamese are more advanced than Thailand and neighbors, at least from the point of view of no fires. (But also that the Chinese government not so.)

Perhaps northern Vietnam will become the next favourite for expats?

More advanced or stricter control I wonder. Also interesting to note from the map that Northern Australia uses the same ground clearing techniques, I find that particularly odd.

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Anecdotal, but today (Feb 17th) seems like the worst yet. No sign of the sun until 8.30 and as I write the scene outside has a sickly dull orange glow that reminds me of countless post apocalypse movies. Your reporter in Nong Hoi.

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I'm going to pin this for the duration of the smog season at which point we can continue with the Rain topic. biggrin.png

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I'm going to pin this for the duration of the smog season at which point we can continue with the Rain topic. biggrin.png

If you could merge the two, smog & rain, problem solved. But probably best to park your car undercover, acid rain......

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Anecdotal, but today (Feb 17th) seems like the worst yet. No sign of the sun until 8.30 and as I write the scene outside has a sickly dull orange glow that reminds me of countless post apocalypse movies. Your reporter in Nong Hoi.

There was a fair amount of cloud on the eastern horizon this morning. We didn't see the sun until about 7.45, a dull red ball visible through the smog haze. Very eerie light :(

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Anecdotal, but today (Feb 17th) seems like the worst yet. No sign of the sun until 8.30 and as I write the scene outside has a sickly dull orange glow that reminds me of countless post apocalypse movies. Your reporter in Nong Hoi.

Yup. We were in Pai last weekend and the air quality was deteriorating tremendously. Back to Chiang Mai, much better, but the last 2 days I think the really bad stuff has made its way down here.

LA sunsets here we come. Coughing everywhere, here we come. Various lung related diseases - it's open season. I have a runny nose, and I know why.

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That map should be posted everywhere on the internet,it is a disgrace that this is going on here in Thailand so long with very little action from from the authorities.Forgt the terrorist warnings,this smog is much more dangerous and to many more people,

Roll on the rain!

What action would you suggest?

Stop the burning.

Not that easy to change habits that have developed over hundreds of years. But also not impossible. It's people who are doing this - people are setting the forests and fields on fire. Those people can be stopped.

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That map should be posted everywhere on the internet,it is a disgrace that this is going on here in Thailand so long with very little action from from the authorities.Forgt the terrorist warnings,this smog is much more dangerous and to many more people,

Roll on the rain!

What action would you suggest?

Stop the burning.

Ok bright star, and just how do you propose to do that, how do you change a very cost effective habit of centuries for rural farmers? Also, what makes you think the pollution is caused by burning within Thailand, maybe the majority of it is carried in on air currents from China and the like!

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. Also interesting to note from the map that Northern Australia uses the same ground clearing techniques, I find that particularly odd.

That would be the Aussie natives. No immediate neighbours out that way, unlike here.

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Seems like the updates on regional air quality / PM10 Chiang Mai stop on January 31st. Convenient.

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That map should be posted everywhere on the internet,it is a disgrace that this is going on here in Thailand so long with very little action from from the authorities.Forgt the terrorist warnings,this smog is much more dangerous and to many more people,

Roll on the rain!

What action would you suggest?

Stop the burning.

Ok bright star, and just how do you propose to do that, how do you change a very cost effective habit of centuries for rural farmers? Also, what makes you think the pollution is caused by burning within Thailand, maybe the majority of it is carried in on air currents from China and the like!

The little red dots on the map clearly show the problem is from here,or am I misreading it?

Just as an aside,we have a guest here from China suposedly for 2 more weeks and she has now booked her flight home at the weekend because of this appaling situation.

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The red dots do indeed show prominenet fires and in that respect virtually all of Thailand and the neighbouring countries are are pretty much saturated. What is less clear, given the scale of the map, is exactly where the borders are and where the areas of fire density exist - on previous maps that I've seen there are large areas of high density fire areas to the West, North and East of Chiang Mai and the volume of significant fire spots in Chiang Mai/Rai province by comparison was minimal. So, to answer the question, we need a greater magnification map, Tywais, any chance?

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What is less clear, given the scale of the map, is exactly where the borders are

I just produced a satellite overlay trying to line it up as best as I could in order to see the country boundaries.

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Seems like the updates on regional air quality / PM10 Chiang Mai stop on January 31st. Convenient.

Unless, of course, you read the notice that says:

This system stop report at 31 January 2012.

You can use new system at http://aqmthai.com (in thai) for Air Quality Report in Thailand.

http://aqmthai.com

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City Hall Monitoring Station

35t. City Hall. 2012-02-17. 11:00:00. 02.01. 21.8. 35.1. 0.2. 108.87

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What is less clear, given the scale of the map, is exactly where the borders are

I just produced a satellite overlay trying to line it up as best as I could in order to see the country boundaries.

Thanks.

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First time in CM, been here 2 weeks but today it hit me hard! I don't know if i'm a pollution-wuss but I can barely stay outside 2 minutes without my chest feeling tight and my head aching..

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