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[sbk]

brit1984, on 2012-05-01 16:55:54, said:

phuturatica, on 2012-05-01 15:16:40, said:

I'm actually currently on a "I hate men" period. That's all nationalities, not just Thai!

Ugh!!!

given some of the stuff men on the forums post, I really don't think this comment is even remotely warranted. Please don't troll in the ladies forum, thanks

[brit1984]

sbk, on 2012-05-01 17:57:21, said:

brit1984, on 2012-05-01 16:55:54, said:

phuturatica, on 2012-05-01 15:16:40, said:

I'm actually currently on a "I hate men" period. That's all nationalities, not just Thai!

Ugh!!!

given some of the stuff men on the forums post, I really don't think this comment is even remotely warranted. Please don't troll in the ladies forum, thanks

Actually, I have said exactly the same in response to male members' posts on other threads

I am sorry if you were offended in some way by my post; it was not my intention to "troll"

I will try to remember not to participate in the ladies forum in future in case my posts are misconstrued

Sorry

[Amyji]

Our 8-year anniversary dinner together that was on 30th April. Yep, a happy marriage with a Thai man is possible.

[edwinclapham]

Gorgeous picture and yes you both look very happy indeed.

Phuturatica is young ( not meant to be condecending at all!) and someone well deserving of her attentions is out there.
The secret is never to accept second best

Edited by edwinclapham, 2012-05-03 11:12:42.

[Carry]

For someone not to be interested in your background as one of the posts states is awful...
Where you from, how you grew up is part of who you are today, so if you love your partner how can you not be interested, that would be a relation killer for me!
My hubbie came for a visit with me to my home country almost 2 years ago, we had been together in Thailand for 4 years by then and for him to meet my family, see how we live on that part of the world, made a huge difference in our relationship!
He enjoyed everything, was curious but it was clear to us that living there was not an option, he liked it for a visit but also due to us having a successful business in Thailand, we never even considered moving back to Europe [did I mentioned, he thought it was way to cold and expensive!]
We have a baby and I go back for at least one visit every year and he is very understanding of that, the importance for our girl to grow up knowing two cultures and two different worlds almost.
But I have to admit, it took us a while to find our balance and part of it def. was cultural but mainly it was me who decided to stay in Thailand...and that was as far as I had thought things through at the time.
I ended up working in our business depending on that income and moving in together straight away, which came natural to Mr. Carry but def. not to me!
Nothing really wrong with that except for the fact that I would never had done that, would I've met a guy in Europe, you usually take your time, go dating etc etc.
So to get to know someone by spending almost every hour of every day with each other was most of the time good but more often also a struggle.
But none of us gave up, it went smoother, we understood each other better and better, I got my own business now and we started dating after 2 years or so, going for dinner etc.
Now I cherish having found my true love, as in someone who's been through all my lows with me, who's seen me at my worst and I def. have seen his ugliest sides, we pulled each other through some tough times and it's a blessing, having our own little family now, i found some peace of mind in that, in just being happy with daily life and taking things as they come, living day by day...ugh maybe this sounds very boring

[sunspun]

I've been with my husband for 7 years now, and he's the love of my life!  By far, the best partner I've ever had I wouldn't trade him for the world.  We've had ups and downs of course, but I think that was mostly me trying to figure out how to survive in Thailand!
And... we just found out there's going to be a new addition to our life soon!!  After 7 years of just the 2 of us against the world, it's going to be strange to have a little one around, but there is no one I'd rather make a family with than him

I've got a load of girlfriends in the same boat as me, so as much as there are some real wanke_rs out there (and I've witnessed many a failed relationship) there are a lot of great success stories too!

[Carry]

Hey Sunspun, congratulations!! Recognizing the fact that some of the downs are from trying to 'survive' Hope you have an easy pregnancy!!

[phuturatica]

Congratulations Sunspun. I am very happy for you!

[edwinclapham]

Congratulations Sunspun, wonderful news. May you all enjoy a long and happy life together.

Eddie

[wildorchid]

i understand you only want to hear positive story and yes they are many but you also have to understand that thing not alway are positive or good,  
i see often farang lady and thai men mostly farang lady have to pay for everything, apartment , food, cloths, medicine because farang lady have a biger income than thai men some thai men work tattoo shop some men work boxing some work construction all of these are small salary jobs this can make lady feel resentful and therefor other nagative feeling come.
but i wish you good luck in your future

[phuturatica]

wildorchid, on Yesterday, 12:22 , said:

i understand you only want to hear positive story and yes they are many but you also have to understand that thing not alway are positive or good,  
i see often farang lady and thai men mostly farang lady have to pay for everything, apartment , food, cloths, medicine because farang lady have a biger income than thai men some thai men work tattoo shop some men work boxing some work construction all of these are small salary jobs this can make lady feel resentful and therefor other nagative feeling come.
but i wish you good luck in your future

I think that is a very big flying generalisation and not always true in some cases. Of course some Western women have a bigger income than the Thai men they're dating, however it does not mean they are necessarily expected to pay for everything. I certainly do not. It is mostly 50/50 for me.

[Carry]

Well the most painful stories I've seen in more than 10 years in Thailand is not the fact that the lady is expected to pay for everything but mainly cultural...the bar boys of who some don't take being faithful is a big thing for example. and like Phuturatica I think you are making a very big generalization, the same has been made about western men and Thai wives/girlfriends, keep an open mind

[sunspun]

When I met my husband I had a lot more money than him. He worked a lot harder in his job than I did in mine, but Thailand just doesn't pay as well as my country.  Now that he lives in my country he makes  a lot more money than me.  I never resented paying for him, and I don't think he resents paying for me now.  I chose him for love, not for money.

[sunspun]

(double post)

Edited by sunspun, Yesterday, 14:15 .

[edwinclapham]

" I chose him for love, not for money.
Good old fashioned ideals.. a joy to read..
Ladettes each your heart out

[Carry]

When I met my husband in Thailand, he had a business and was making a lot more money then me, he never once hesitated to share with me or pay anything for me.
Ladies from the west are usual independent [are we not?!], you wanna pay for your partner, let's hope it;s out of love, if you're with someone who expects you to pay [no matter where they from] make a run for it.

[eek]

wildorchid, on Yesterday, 12:22 , said:

i understand you only want to hear positive story and yes they are many but you also have to understand that thing not alway are positive or good,  
i see often farang lady and thai men mostly farang lady have to pay for everything, apartment , food, cloths, medicine because farang lady have a biger income than thai men some thai men work tattoo shop some men work boxing some work construction all of these are small salary jobs this can make lady feel resentful and therefor other nagative feeling come.
but i wish you good luck in your future

I have had two Thai relationships. One for two years and one for about four months. Both had much more money than me. Both played very traditional roles in that they would not let me pay for anything. I bought gifts of course, and would buy coffees or something as a treat, but i was taken out and given gifts. I didnt ask for any of it, nor expected not to go "dutch", but they wouldnt hear of it. The guy i dated for two years, had sold his business in Bangkok to have a semi-retired life in Chiang Mai (he was 45). He had a lot of baggage though (that might sound bad, but I felt i was in stalemate, so had to move on). The guy i dated for four months, held a highly respected position in Bangkok, flew regularly to Japan, Europe etc. He was a very attractive 38 year old, had the Mercedes, took me to a private condo in Hua Hin, blah blah, etc etc. (But, after finding out he spent a weekend with another girl (even though he said nothing happened *yeh right!*) decided it wasnt good for me. Got excuses, and maybe he was telling the truth, but im too old for games, and already had some bad gut feelings about it.)

But anyway, they werent bad guys, just that they were not right for me. But most certainly they were total opposite to what you described.

[sbk]

Odd, can't say I've seen it either and in general Thai culture and the way the men are raised wouldn't really allow for it as it is generally been my long term experience that the man pays for the woman, the older pays for the younger but then I have never hung around with lazy sponges.

[wildorchid]

eek, on Yesterday, 16:05 , said:

wildorchid, on Yesterday, 12:22 , said:

i understand you only want to hear positive story and yes they are many but you also have to understand that thing not alway are positive or good,  
i see often farang lady and thai men mostly farang lady have to pay for everything, apartment , food, cloths, medicine because farang lady have a biger income than thai men some thai men work tattoo shop some men work boxing some work construction all of these are small salary jobs this can make lady feel resentful and therefor other nagative feeling come.
but i wish you good luck in your future

I have had two Thai relationships. One for two years and one for about four months. Both had much more money than me. Both played very traditional roles in that they would not let me pay for anything. I bought gifts of course, and would buy coffees or something as a treat, but i was taken out and given gifts. I didnt ask for any of it, nor expected not to go "dutch", but they wouldnt hear of it. The guy i dated for two years, had sold his business in Bangkok to have a semi-retired life in Chiang Mai (he was 45). He had a lot of baggage though (that might sound bad, but I felt i was in stalemate, so had to move on). The guy i dated for four months, held a highly respected position in Bangkok, flew regularly to Japan, Europe etc. He was a very attractive 38 year old, had the Mercedes, took me to a private condo in Hua Hin, blah blah, etc etc. (But, after finding out he spent a weekend with another girl (even though he said nothing happened *yeh right!*) decided it wasnt good for me. Got excuses, and maybe he was telling the truth, but im too old for games, and already had some bad gut feelings about it.)

But anyway, they werent bad guys, just that they were not right for me. But most certainly they were total opposite to what you described.

i'm sorry to burst your bublle but get what,,,, you would be what is call'ed the secound wife or what thai people call "my GIK " and honey you are not the first,
even a normal man can have a "GIK " so now how about a rich man count your fingers and take off your shoes because still more lady to count!!!! i know this because i'm a thai lady and i see this often, this is my country i have been here and live full in thailand than you, i'm sorry but  i tell you the truth,,,sometime dificult to hear but still it is the truth... i realy wish you good luck in all your life;-)

[sunspun]

I think we all know about this side of Thai culture.  And you know what, it happens in our countries too.  It's maybe more accepted by Thai people for reasons I don't understand, though.  Bang khun dee, bang khun mai dee.  The only thing you can do is trust your heart - not judge someone by where they are from or how much money they have.

[Carry]

Well Wildorchid, you are not the first Thai woman I hear to speak negatively about Thai men. It's not easy to find true love [depending on what you expect from someone] but I dont think that is completely to do with where one is from.
So maybe it's bursting your bubble to read all of this and take in that app. some Thai men are decent guys and make some of us happy.
By the way cheating is something known in all cultures [so is having more then one wife but that's a bit irrelevant to the topic and well a bit old fashioned too!]
I wish you good luck in life and love! Chokdee

edit: Spelling

Edited by Carry, Today, 08:33 .

[edwinclapham]

wildorchid, on Today, 01:04 , said:

eek, on Yesterday, 16:05 , said:

wildorchid, on Yesterday, 12:22 , said:

i understand you only want to hear positive story and yes they are many but you also have to understand that thing not alway are positive or good,  
i see often farang lady and thai men mostly farang lady have to pay for everything, apartment , food, cloths, medicine because farang lady have a biger income than thai men some thai men work tattoo shop some men work boxing some work construction all of these are small salary jobs this can make lady feel resentful and therefor other nagative feeling come.
but i wish you good luck in your future

I have had two Thai relationships. One for two years and one for about four months. Both had much more money than me. Both played very traditional roles in that they would not let me pay for anything. I bought gifts of course, and would buy coffees or something as a treat, but i was taken out and given gifts. I didnt ask for any of it, nor expected not to go "dutch", but they wouldnt hear of it. The guy i dated for two years, had sold his business in Bangkok to have a semi-retired life in Chiang Mai (he was 45). He had a lot of baggage though (that might sound bad, but I felt i was in stalemate, so had to move on). The guy i dated for four months, held a highly respected position in Bangkok, flew regularly to Japan, Europe etc. He was a very attractive 38 year old, had the Mercedes, took me to a private condo in Hua Hin, blah blah, etc etc. (But, after finding out he spent a weekend with another girl (even though he said nothing happened *yeh right!*) decided it wasnt good for me. Got excuses, and maybe he was telling the truth, but im too old for games, and already had some bad gut feelings about it.)

But anyway, they werent bad guys, just that they were not right for me. But most certainly they were total opposite to what you described.

i'm sorry to burst your bublle but get what,,,, you would be what is call'ed the secound wife or what thai people call "my GIK " and honey you are not the first,
even a normal man can have a "GIK " so now how about a rich man count your fingers and take off your shoes because still more lady to count!!!! i know this because i'm a thai lady and i see this often, this is my country i have been here and live full in thailand than you, i'm sorry but  i tell you the truth,,,sometime dificult to hear but still it is the truth... i realy wish you good luck in all your life;-)

I doubt very much whether you are bursting Eek's bubble  and I doubt very much if you are telling her anything new ..
Cheating exists from either gender, from many nationalities in many continents.  Not all Thai men are  as per your description.. I am acquainted with a fair few who know where their bread is buttered and have the education and intelligence to enjoy their relationships without seeking "bits on the side" outside of the marriage.
In the same breath it would be considered  equally unjust to classify all Thai women as being unfaithful wouldnt it honey.


Edited.. spelling

Edited by edwinclapham, Today, 09:27 .

[eek]

edwinclapham, on Today, 09:21 , said:

wildorchid, on Today, 01:04 , said:

eek, on Yesterday, 16:05 , said:

wildorchid, on Yesterday, 12:22 , said:

i understand you only want to hear positive story and yes they are many but you also have to understand that thing not alway are positive or good,  
i see often farang lady and thai men mostly farang lady have to pay for everything, apartment , food, cloths, medicine because farang lady have a biger income than thai men some thai men work tattoo shop some men work boxing some work construction all of these are small salary jobs this can make lady feel resentful and therefor other nagative feeling come.
but i wish you good luck in your future

I have had two Thai relationships. One for two years and one for about four months. Both had much more money than me. Both played very traditional roles in that they would not let me pay for anything. I bought gifts of course, and would buy coffees or something as a treat, but i was taken out and given gifts. I didnt ask for any of it, nor expected not to go "dutch", but they wouldnt hear of it. The guy i dated for two years, had sold his business in Bangkok to have a semi-retired life in Chiang Mai (he was 45). He had a lot of baggage though (that might sound bad, but I felt i was in stalemate, so had to move on). The guy i dated for four months, held a highly respected position in Bangkok, flew regularly to Japan, Europe etc. He was a very attractive 38 year old, had the Mercedes, took me to a private condo in Hua Hin, blah blah, etc etc. (But, after finding out he spent a weekend with another girl (even though he said nothing happened *yeh right!*) decided it wasnt good for me. Got excuses, and maybe he was telling the truth, but im too old for games, and already had some bad gut feelings about it.)

But anyway, they werent bad guys, just that they were not right for me. But most certainly they were total opposite to what you described.

i'm sorry to burst your bublle but get what,,,, you would be what is call'ed the secound wife or what thai people call "my GIK " and honey you are not the first,
even a normal man can have a "GIK " so now how about a rich man count your fingers and take off your shoes because still more lady to count!!!! i know this because i'm a thai lady and i see this often, this is my country i have been here and live full in thailand than you, i'm sorry but  i tell you the truth,,,sometime dificult to hear but still it is the truth... i realy wish you good luck in all your life;-)

I doubt very much whether you are bursting Eek's bubble  and I doubt very much if you are telling her anything new ..
Cheating exists from either gender, from many nationalities in many continents.  Not all Thai men are  as per your description.. I am acquainted with a fair few who know where their bread is buttered and have the education and intelligence to enjoy their relationships without seeking "bits on the side" outside of the marriage.
In the same breath it would be considered  equally unjust to classify all Thai women as being unfaithful wouldnt it honey.


Edited.. spelling

Oh, really wildorchid? OMG. Is that true? Oh i think ill go away and kill myself now!!!!!

.... Honesty love, dont you think you should stay away from the Thai La Korn soaps? Its the only reason i can think for you over-dramatic writing.