191 replies to this topic
Posted 2012-05-12 11:19:54
 Skywalker69, on 2012-05-12 02:20:51, said:
Sayonarax, on 2012-05-03 16:49:58, said:
Mr. Greg Wallace, Shame on you. Maybe we should import one Thai MP to replace your job.
What t an excellent idea, lets send the whole bunch to Australia, that should be far enough from Thailand. 
Great idea the standard of politicians in Thailand are well above those of Australia. Australian politicians could learn a lot from thier Thai Friends. Both have 1st time female P.M's and if I had to choose b/w Yinluk or Julia then Yinluk would win hands down as she is by far the one with the highest IQ. Yep lets swap governments then people in Thailand would really have something to complain about and the country would be destroyed in a matter of days.
Posted 2012-05-12 11:38:12
thaihome, on 2012-05-12 09:13:48, said:
chooka, on 2012-05-11 17:32:34, said:
thaihome, on 2012-05-11 15:47:17, said:
simple1, on 2012-05-11 14:19:16, said:
Personally I am not indulging in Thai bashing, I'm happy living in Thailand. However it would be interesting, based upon your experienc of working on large construction projects here in Thailand, what percentage of Thai staff would have sufficient understanding of English to successfully integrate with an Australian workforce. Also do you have any knowledge of roughly many Thais have relocated to Australia under the 457 scheme for consturction/infrastucture projects?
Your question shows you have no knowldege of how international construction projects work. There would be no need for the Thai staff to integrate with an Australian workforce or for anyone but the supervison to speak English. The plan for our projects is to use them as unit to work on specfic scopes of work. They would live in camps along with other workers, with Thai food would available for them (and anyone else that wanted it). This is standard for such projects.
I have no idea how many Thais have "relocated to Australia under the 457 scheme for consturction/infrastucture projects". At this point I doubt many, as with all the work that has been in Thailand over the past 10 years, the skilled workers have had little reason to work overseas.
I do know that in the late 90's we used several hundred Thais on a power project in Australia with no problem. Some of those are still working for us on project here in Thailand.
TH
I would assume that the supervisor would be Australian to ensure that everything complies with Australian standards, so does that mean he would have to become proficient in the Thai language or will they put a thai in charge of the construction.
The supervisor would be Thai and speaks enough English to communicate with the Superintend and Field Engineers, who these days are likely to be either Americans or Brits (or even Thai). The same organization we use here in Thailand.
TH
The story states that " all of whom must have experience and possess some English speaking skill that is acceptable to Australian employers." That means if the workers can't speak english then they won't be employed. Remember these people are not actually required for major projects, but to fill the position created as a flow on from the mining boom and the like. The construction of housing for workers, education facilities for families etc, and maintenance of facilities and equpment. They will be employed by a number of small and middle range Australian companies working for Australians with Australian supervisors.
Posted 2012-05-12 14:55:49
samsiam, on 2012-05-03 18:16:39, said:
AngryParent, on 2012-05-03 17:39:28, said:
Hope they have to do 90 day reporting in Aussie. 
On a serioous note, the Aussies must be desperate, there are NO standards in this country. Thousands will die in Australia from collapsing buildings, bad electrical installation etc.
and bamboo scaffolding...
But in reality, there would be much better countries to import labour from that do have basic english skills already......like New Zealand.
All the Kiwis are there already,, none left in New Zealand, that why OZ wants Thais
Posted 2012-05-12 16:13:24
softgeorge, on 2012-05-12 11:38:12, said:
The story states that "all of whom must have experience and possess some English speaking skill that is acceptable to Australian employers." That means if the workers can't speak english then they won't be employed. Remember these people are not actually required for major projects, but to fill the position created as a flow on from the mining boom and the like. The construction of housing for workers, education facilities for families etc, and maintenance of facilities and equpment. They will be employed by a number of small and middle range Australian companies working for Australians with Australian supervisors.
Agreed, but I was addressing the posts that were saying Thais were unsuitable for working on construction projects and the efforts our company is planning to recruit them. There are many I know of that could work in the conditions in the OP.
TH
Posted 2012-05-25 20:27:46
The Australian government made an announcement on this today. P.M Gillard says that there will be 1,700 positions for skilled labour from across the globe. I guess either Australia has got it wrong or Thailand has got it wrong. Australia say 1,700 worldwide and Thailand say 20,000 from Thailand. Someone has seriously got the figures wrong.
Posted 2012-05-25 22:53:57
OLDAUSSIE, on 2012-05-04 09:03:55, said:
Settle down lads this will NEVER happen.
How many Thais do you know that can speak AUSTRALIAN...... 
I think I know more Austalian´s speeking Thai. 
Posted 2012-05-26 06:05:58
chooka, on 2012-05-25 20:27:46, said:
The Australian government made an announcement on this today. P.M Gillard says that there will be 1,700 positions for skilled labour from across the globe. I guess either Australia has got it wrong or Thailand has got it wrong. Australia say 1,700 worldwide and Thailand say 20,000 from Thailand. Someone has seriously got the figures wrong.
Maybe they just seconded someone from TAT to assist with the media release. We know how good they are with figures. Honest mistake and could happen to anyone.
Posted 2012-05-26 06:15:31
Skywalker69, on 2012-05-25 22:53:57, said:
OLDAUSSIE, on 2012-05-04 09:03:55, said:
Settle down lads this will NEVER happen.
How many Thais do you know that can speak AUSTRALIAN......
I think I know more Austalian´s speeking Thai.
Never found one that could say g'day yet. well apart from my son.
Posted 2012-05-26 21:37:50
softgeorge, on 2012-05-12 11:19:54, said:
Skywalker69, on 2012-05-12 02:20:51, said:
Sayonarax, on 2012-05-03 16:49:58, said:
Mr. Greg Wallace, Shame on you. Maybe we should import one Thai MP to replace your job.
What t an excellent idea, lets send the whole bunch to Australia, that should be far enough from Thailand.
Great idea the standard of politicians in Thailand are well above those of Australia. Australian politicians could learn a lot from thier Thai Friends. Both have 1st time female P.M's and if I had to choose b/w Yinluk or Julia then Yinluk would win hands down as she is by far the one with the highest IQ. Yep lets swap governments then people in Thailand would really have something to complain about and the country would be destroyed in a matter of days.
 Can this be true?
Posted 2012-05-26 22:09:01
Skywalker69, on 2012-05-25 22:53:57, said:
OLDAUSSIE, on 2012-05-04 09:03:55, said:
Settle down lads this will NEVER happen.
How many Thais do you know that can speak AUSTRALIAN......
I think I know more Austalian´s speeking Thai.
How many Australians do you know who can speak English. 
On a serious note I can see where on large construction projects such as thaihome was talking about it would work fine. But how about the smaller jobs where you might have just a five man crew.? Seems to me a Thai would need to be able to speak and read English.
Posted Yesterday, 05:07
chooka, on 2012-05-25 20:27:46, said:
The Australian government made an announcement on this today. P.M Gillard says that there will be 1,700 positions for skilled labour from across the globe. I guess either Australia has got it wrong or Thailand has got it wrong. Australia say 1,700 worldwide and Thailand say 20,000 from Thailand. Someone has seriously got the figures wrong.
14:23 AEDT Sat May 26 2012
Prime Minister Julia Gillard has vowed a new feature to the government's skilled migration plan would ensure that that no foreign worker would take an Australian job in the mining sector.
This comes after union leaders lashed out at the federal government's skilled migration plan that would allow mining magnate Gina Rinehart to bring in 1700 foreign workers.
In Melbourne on Saturday, Ms Gillard announced that a "jobs board" would be created that would give Australian workers information about what jobs were available in the resources sector.
"Yesterday I decided we would add to what we're doing to make sure that Aussies are getting the jobs," Ms Gillard said.
"Companies won't be able to bring in foreign workers if there is an Australian ready, able and willing to do the work."
This comes after Immigration Minister Chris Bowen announced on Friday the government program to allow enterprise migration agreements (EMA) would help mining companies find enough workers for their developments.
Posted Yesterday, 05:40
They won't have any problems filling positions with Aussies as they come up as you virtually have to kill someone to get a job or have a contact in the industry. My good mate in Nakon Sawon who after 25 yrs as a copper in Aust now works as a security gaurd in the mines, 2wks on 2wks off, fly in / fly out ex Perth and earns up to 200K AUD. (wages, allowances & tax breaks for remote locality etc) He flys from BKK to Perth and they fly him from there. 12 hr shifts but 2 days are taken up with travelling and admin so 60 hr weeks and 5 weeks leave per year.
Posted Yesterday, 05:42
Skywalker69, on 2012-05-26 21:37:50, said:
softgeorge, on 2012-05-12 11:19:54, said:
Skywalker69, on 2012-05-12 02:20:51, said:
Sayonarax, on 2012-05-03 16:49:58, said:
Mr. Greg Wallace, Shame on you. Maybe we should import one Thai MP to replace your job.
What t an excellent idea, lets send the whole bunch to Australia, that should be far enough from Thailand.
Great idea the standard of politicians in Thailand are well above those of Australia. Australian politicians could learn a lot from thier Thai Friends. Both have 1st time female P.M's and if I had to choose b/w Yinluk or Julia then Yinluk would win hands down as she is by far the one with the highest IQ. Yep lets swap governments then people in Thailand would really have something to complain about and the country would be destroyed in a matter of days.
Can this be true?
Sad but unfortunately true.
Posted Today, 08:52
I think my pet monkey could do a better job of running a government that Julia.
Posted Today, 09:41
They will get more prostitutes than construction workers.
Posted 5 minutes ago
kevjohn, on 2012-05-03 19:06:11, said:
The food would not be a problem if they all learn to like lamb. 
I really have no idea why everyone thinks Australia is the land of sheep - NEW ZEALAND is full of the bloody things - Australia has a lot of beef cattle and SHEDLOADS of bloody 'roos...NOT that many sheep... we do have SOME sheep.
In Australia its the Kiwis who are known as the sheep-shaggers!
Posted A minute ago
I thought I have read on Thaivisa a lot of complaints about Thai construction quality?
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