I was living in Malaysia when Chambers and Barlows were executed.
A friend working at the Thai consulate during that time told me the pair were under surveilance even before they left Australia. Countries they visited were prewarned of their mission and asked to let them pass in the hope of catching Mr Big in Oz. Rightly or wrongly or maybe by coincidence they were caught at the airport. On the day they were strung up another Australian died of an overdose in Penang.
Since then its well known in Oz what happens if caught with drugs in Malaysia. This guy played the game and got caught. He's only got himself to blame when he feels the noose tightening around his neck.
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Australian Man Faces Death Penalty In Malaysia
Started by webfact, 2012-05-21 17:44
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edwinclapham
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-22 18:59:13
@ Beach "Sorry, dalsobrook, I don't even feel sorry for his family who missed to bring him up as an responsible human-being... a child taught to be kind, doesn't steal, doesn't do harm to others, respect other people would not even dream about it to deal drugs"
What absolute rubbish! Edited by edwinclapham, 2012-05-22 19:01:41. #28
Baloo22
Advanced Member Posted 2012-05-23 08:25:33
This man deserves a fair trail in accordance with Malaysian law with a proper defense attorney. If found guilty, I fully support the Malaysian government in applying the death penalty. This man is 32 years old and made his own decision to, allegedly, commit the treacherous and dispicable act of dealing in illegal drugs. People who deal illegal drugs are worse than murderers. Most murderers kill one or two people. Drug dealers destroy whole families. Many times, hundreds of families. The correct term to use when refering to drug dealers is "vermin".
I wish my home country had the same wisdom and resolve that Malaysia and Singapore have in response to drug dealers. Unfortunatly, we have far too many unbelieveably ignorant idiots that scream large excuses for drug-dealing scum and utter a bunch of worthless blather about "it's the governments fault for the war on drugs." #29
BabySun
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-23 09:57:43
In Malaysia they are not so dead strict,like Singapore.They spared one OZ woman with 6kg of smack,giving her 6 yrs for possesion.
Last year - similar story had happened - albeit - very quietly. #30
ivan96822
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-23 11:54:04
Due to the man's age, I can sympathize with him, but after all the publicity on drug running in South East Asia, along with its perilous risks, one must ask: why? Why throw your life away over something you will probably get caught for?
Bottom line, the most common answer is greed. #31
thaifkrlim
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-23 12:30:48
In Malaysia they are not so dead strict,like Singapore.They spared one OZ woman with 6kg of smack,giving her 6 yrs for possesion. Last year - similar story had happened - albeit - very quietly. 6 kg is very heavy stuff, worth 10s of mil baht, 6 years is very lenient sentence....where is the source #32
Wombat6
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-23 14:47:05
Quote .I have no pity for people who know the rules that apply if they get caught....he gambled and lost. Pray tell us all how you know this? Please share with us your insight to this individual's circumstances? The thing is with these threads is that it becomes utterly clear which members are incapable of fully assessing and analysing a piece of information to the full before just spouting brainless dribble they have simply seen others post in the hope it makes them seem "worldly". How, for example, do we not know that perhaps this individual was somehow coerced .into such a situation through an unfortunate concatenation of circumstances such as being at the mercy (for whatever reason) of an organised crime group or similar? Please engage your brain before just spouting dribble. In my experience the "misery" these people cause, tends also to be facilitated by the very people who purchase such comestibles hence providing such a lucrative trade for such things. Maybe the experts on parenting could perhaps consider a parenting formula for getting other people's kids (or their own) not to buy these naughty things to start with, hence reducing the demand for them in the first place? Just a thought. You don't get many of those here these days... #33
Gerryasia
Advanced Member Posted 2012-05-24 01:34:24
I hope he has all of his affairs in order. Unlike my home country, where he would probably get slapped on the wrist or maybe spend a few days in jail, his dealing drugs days are over, as are the rest of any type of days except for the final day. I guess his love for money and /or arrogance in thinking he wouldn't get caught got the best of him and now over stupid drugs he gets to die. I feel very sad for his family. Sorry, dalsobrook, I don't even feel sorry for his family who missed to bring him up as an responsible human-being... a child taught to be kind, doesn't steal, doesn't do harm to others, respect other people would not even dream about it to deal drugs And WHO has the CHOICE of what family we are born into...hmmm? #34
HeavyDrinker
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-24 08:12:21 Quote How do I know this ??? obviously you have been living under a rock !!! There are signs everywhere at entry points to Malaysia that advise the Penalty for drug trafficking is death....I know who is spouting brainless dribble....take a look in a mirror Read my post again. I asked you how do you know enough about this particular case to be able to comment on it with such certainty? Please do tell. I think you are somewhat out of your depth here,.... #35
Kananga
Super Member Posted 2012-05-24 09:02:30
In Malaysia they are not so dead strict,like Singapore.They spared one OZ woman with 6kg of smack,giving her 6 yrs for possesion. Last year - similar story had happened - albeit - very quietly. Happened in Singapore too, to a German girl. The Germans threatened Singapore economically and they relented. #36
BabySun
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-25 00:23:50
In Malaysia they are not so dead strict,like Singapore.They spared one OZ woman with 6kg of smack,giving her 6 yrs for possesion. Last year - similar story had happened - albeit - very quietly. 6 kg is very heavy stuff, worth 10s of mil baht, 6 years is very lenient sentence....where is the source ditching rented bicycle("Troubles In Paradise"?) - which shocked me.May be judge watched that movie as well. @kananga that German girl was easy to save - they sorted out the evidence - separating real marijuana from ordinary weed;so they made it below the limit.She was used by her local boyfriend,story about OrchardTowers. #37
BabySun
Senior Member Posted 2012-05-25 01:39:12
In Malaysia they are not so dead strict,like Singapore.They spared one OZ woman with 6kg of smack,giving her 6 yrs for possesion. Last year - similar story had happened - albeit - very quietly. Happened in Singapore too, to a German girl. The Germans threatened Singapore economically and they relented. They were very happy,that they did not have to hang her!She was very happy too. #38
vinniekintana
Senior Member Posted Yesterday, 12:28
This whole "war on drugs" is total BS. Another invisible enemy to dupe the mass Plebian society and control them through. Yes drugs can be harmful,.. but so can cigarettes, alcohol and prescription drugs that the governements of the world push en-mass and with zero conscience or consequence! As long as "illicit" drugs remain illegal it translates into the fuelling of a multi billion (trillion?) dollar industry for everyone from the cops, lawyers, judges, prison systems, pharmecutical companies,...and the list rolls on. Enough of this insane lie-ridden BS and the condoning of judicial murder of scapegoats for an insipid hierachy of capitalist and power hungry supremacists that do zero for the genuine advancement of the human population of the world! Tell the truth,... and the truth is that something stinks in Demark and it ain't just the cheese! ....and the solution is? Ohh yeah...I forgot..legalize them. So they will easily be available to every freakin idiot out there. So the stupid masses will become a menace...more than they already are. The world is not populated by philosophers, friend. It's populated by brute animals and they have to be 'managed'. #39
Gers1873
Senior Member Posted Yesterday, 12:31
Build his gallows high
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oldsailor35
Super Member Posted Yesterday, 17:46
I think it is several years since Malaysia had a good drug hanging. Just about time for another 'wake up ' execution. Maybe the idiots who think its easy will think twice. Tough luck Mr Aussie man, and good riddance !
Its a crying shame that more fools, likewise inclined, don't holiday in Malaysia, the world has become infested with them . #41
Chivas
Super Member Posted Yesterday, 20:14
Sorry but Hang em High......
And better still if all civilised countries brought in a Mandatory Ten year sentance for possession of any non prescribed drug...... Cannabis straight ten Ecstasy straight ten and so on....... #42
oldsailor35
Super Member Posted Yesterday, 20:58
Sorry but Hang em High...... And better still if all civilised countries brought in a Mandatory Ten year sentance for possession of any non prescribed drug...... Cannabis straight ten Ecstasy straight ten and so on....... But that would'nt stop their stupid mates, only them for 10 years ! #43
Chivas
Super Member Posted Yesterday, 23:02
Sorry but Hang em High...... And better still if all civilised countries brought in a Mandatory Ten year sentance for possession of any non prescribed drug...... Cannabis straight ten Ecstasy straight ten and so on....... But that would'nt stop their stupid mates, only them for 10 years ! No my friend it wouldn't........... Within 24 months the scourge of drugs would be eridiacted in 95% of cases....... Every time you go and buy a non prescibed drug its a ten its a ten its a ten............Kamagra have a ten........! Yes ludicrous but without question it would work and jails paid for by the mega enormous savings in savings....... Only the whose who complain have something to hide....... Diazapam Sir.... well have a 10 stretch.........Makes unreal reading doesn't it but perfectly real and feasible.......... Edited by Chivas, Yesterday, 23:03 . #45
Derifo
Senior Member Posted Today, 15:44
I hope he has all of his affairs in order. Unlike my home country, where he would probably get slapped on the wrist or maybe spend a few days in jail, his dealing drugs days are over, as are the rest of any type of days except for the final day. I guess his love for money and /or arrogance in thinking he wouldn't get caught got the best of him and now over stupid drugs he gets to die. I feel very sad for his family. Sorry, dalsobrook,.. a child taught to be kind, doesn't steal, doesn't do harm to others, respect other people would not even dream about it to deal drugs Well said. #46
Genericnic
Senior Member Posted 32 minutes ago
In the words of Baretta, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Or, as I used to say back in the days when I was a lawyer, "If criminals were as smart as they think they are, they would be in a better line of work."
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edwinclapham
Senior Member Posted 4 minutes ago
Without a doubt, the hard stuff I have problems dealing with..
I still find it hard to get my head around that in 2012 with the communication avenues we now have, how people get themselves into this mess. Probably sheer greed/desperation.. whatever and I probably would have to do time myself if my own children were introduced to drugs. My own children are brought up in a secure and loving environment, but who is to say that one day they follow this very road! I as a parent would be mortified, but even more so to see the noose around his/her neck! With the amount of police /lawyer/judge corruption there is in this world, I wouldnt be easy at all letting the aforementioned sentence my kids, therefore I am against hanging , very much so. Luckily I havent had a child who has destroyed anothers life through drugs, so I may well feel entirely different, but If this ever happened I hope I am granted a sense of reason not to advocate hanging as a solution. |
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