The posters here seem more upset about the idea of Thais being upset about this. This is a manufactured story. Write a story based on a few tweets that says Thais are outraged when 99% don't care at all . . .
Exactly. The problem is that too many people here like to swallow this kind of story at face value so they can get all righteously indignant. A quick look at Twitter or pantip.com very quickly reveals that the silly criticisms of this Gaga person are a very small minority. But then I suspect that the farangs who get most worked up by this kind of story are generally the ones who don't read Thai and have no interest in doing so.
My guess is that you are spot on. And the comments about boycotting a concert? Chances are, that most of the boycotts will be buy the same people who paid a fortune for the tickets. Let me get the facts straight. You spent a weeks salary to buy a ticket, and now you are not going? Who does that hurt? Certainly not Lady Gaga. What point does it make exactly if 200 people who have already provided the performer and the promoter with their fees, do not attend? Sounds like you may be doing Gaga a favor by not coming.
Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?
Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!
well she is someone who has sold over 4 million albums so thats already 4 million people who know her and willing to spend money on her music(legally)
You can double that amount if you count the illegal downloads, triple it if you account for people who actually follow any kind of music scene and multiply it by 10, when taking into account people who read fashion mags.
Now,, who and what exactly are you?
And who cares about Chinese? is this thread about Chinese? or unemployment or factory closure's?
May i suggest before you start to post total and utter drivel you actually think
Your own figures show Lady Gaga’s “Little Monsters and Fans” (her words, not mine) have bought 4 million albums. You manipulate this figure up to 120 million by including your own estimates of bootleg downloads and what people read in doctor’s and dentist’s waiting rooms! Even if your 120 million people figure is remotely close to reality Lady Gaga is known to no more than 1.68% of the world’s population of 7,106 billion (United States Census Bureau November 2011 estimate). Divide that figure by 30 to get the true number of people who paid good money for one of her albums! She’s not going to be running for any sort of World Office soon on those numbers!
Moving on to something more serious - are you a total ignoramus? Once it was Japan, then Taiwan and now China is the most efficient state sanctioned secret stealing faking nation on earth with a frightening 19.2% of the world's population. It is very close to more than 5 times the USA population. India, another problem in the making, is not that far behind China in thinking and population. China has long since left behind small fry faking of such trinkets as Rolex's for small fry countries like Thailand to pick up on (and idiots like Lady Gaga to comment on and annoy local people) and is now concentrating on big time industry. While you may still pick up high quality pots, pans and the like in Germany, France, the UK, USA and look to see where they are made, don't kid yourself all's well with the world when you see they are made in your country! Ask yourself instead, who owns the factory? Hence my "drivel" about unemployment and factory closures. (incidentally, the word is "closures", not "closure's" - schooling a bit lacking?) How is it unemployment in the West is as high as it's been since 1929 and getting worse and total countries are either publicly insolvent (Greece, Portugal Ireland and others) , or closetly insolvent - the USA particularly among them (nobody in the States from politician down to the man in the street having the guts to admit it)?
"Now,, who and what exactly are you?"
Ignoring the lousy grammar again - what business is that of yours?
Wow, this is another successful stunt from her manager or publicity department.
Everyone(both the Thais and the Swiss) should be thankful and grateful to her statement.
1) She brought the attention of this fake-branded goods that's on for so long in Thailand; but due to intentional reason(which I choose to believe), corruption or incompetency of the government, it's not stopped. Her act will certainly help in a way.
2) The originals are always proud if imitations are made. Only good products, or overpriced products or well-branded ones have imitations. Anyone those who bought imitations will not buy the originals even if imitations are not there; as the price differences are miles apart. By having imitations, the originals earn advertisement and publicity for their brands. Take cds for example, at 300 baht per cd, I can afford to listen to so many. BUt at 30 to 50 baht, I will buy them and get to know more singers and musicians. So eventually these singers will stand to gain..
3) Why should some Thais feel offended from her statement ? They should be grateful. Unless those people felt shameful for Thailand big imitation trade and tried to hide the facts. Well then, blame the government for allowing it, not Lady Gaga for buying it.
No matter how I see it from any angle, no one stand to lose from her statement.
Lady Gaga also knows that her imitations cds and dvds are on sale. Many people will not want to buy her originals too. But for 20 to 5o bahts, many will buy and get to know her. I am sure that's how some Thai fans get to know her and like her eventually.
Back on branded goods, they are all OVERPRICED, thus giving way for affordable imitations.
Now, see things positively and be thankful to Lady Gaga.
I am not her fan and I don't like her singing but I will begin to like her now.
Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?
Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!
well she is someone who has sold over 4 million albums so thats already 4 million people who know her and willing to spend money on her music(legally)
You can double that amount if you count the illegal downloads, triple it if you account for people who actually follow any kind of music scene and multiply it by 10, when taking into account people who read fashion mags.
Now,, who and what exactly are you?
And who cares about Chinese? is this thread about Chinese? or unemployment or factory closure's?
May i suggest before you start to post total and utter drivel you actually think
Your own figures show Lady Gaga’s “Little Monsters and Fans” (her words, not mine) have bought 4 million albums. You manipulate this figure up to 120 million by including your own estimates of bootleg downloads and what people read in doctor’s and dentist’s waiting rooms! Even if your 120 million people figure is remotely close to reality Lady Gaga is known to no more than 1.68% of the world’s population of 7,106 billion (United States Census Bureau November 2011 estimate). Divide that figure by 30 to get the true number of people who paid good money for one of her albums! She’s not going to be running for any sort of World Office soon on those numbers!
Moving on to something more serious - are you a total ignoramus? Once it was Japan, then Taiwan and now China is the most efficient state sanctioned secret stealing faking nation on earth with a frightening 19.2% of the world's population. It is very close to more than 5 times the USA population. India, another problem in the making, is not that far behind China in thinking and population. China has long since left behind small fry faking of such trinkets as Rolex's for small fry countries like Thailand to pick up on (and idiots like Lady Gaga to comment on and annoy local people) and is now concentrating on big time industry. While you may still pick up high quality pots, pans and the like in Germany, France, the UK, USA and look to see where they are made, don't kid yourself all's well with the world when you see they are made in your country! Ask yourself instead, who owns the factory? Hence my "drivel" about unemployment and factory closures. (incidentally, the word is "closures", not "closure's" - schooling a bit lacking?) How is it unemployment in the West is as high as it's been since 1929 and getting worse and total countries are either publicly insolvent (Greece, Portugal Ireland and others) , or closetly insolvent - the USA particularly among them (nobody in the States from politician down to the man in the street having the guts to admit it)?
"Now,, who and what exactly are you?"
Ignoring the lousy grammar again - what business is that of yours?
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Don't understand what you are trying to say.
I always know that when goods are so cheaper; imimitation or originals, sales will increase and help employment.
Don't blame the Chinese for making cheaper goods; blame the originals for selling too expensive. If not, how could the Chinese make cheaper ones ?
Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?
Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!
well she is someone who has sold over 4 million albums so thats already 4 million people who know her and willing to spend money on her music(legally)
You can double that amount if you count the illegal downloads, triple it if you account for people who actually follow any kind of music scene and multiply it by 10, when taking into account people who read fashion mags.
Now,, who and what exactly are you?
And who cares about Chinese? is this thread about Chinese? or unemployment or factory closure's?
May i suggest before you start to post total and utter drivel you actually think
Your own figures show Lady Gaga’s “Little Monsters and Fans” (her words, not mine) have bought 4 million albums. You manipulate this figure up to 120 million by including your own estimates of bootleg downloads and what people read in doctor’s and dentist’s waiting rooms! Even if your 120 million people figure is remotely close to reality Lady Gaga is known to no more than 1.68% of the world’s population of 7,106 billion (United States Census Bureau November 2011 estimate). Divide that figure by 30 to get the true number of people who paid good money for one of her albums! She’s not going to be running for any sort of World Office soon on those numbers!
Moving on to something more serious - are you a total ignoramus? Once it was Japan, then Taiwan and now China is the most efficient state sanctioned secret stealing faking nation on earth with a frightening 19.2% of the world's population. It is very close to more than 5 times the USA population. India, another problem in the making, is not that far behind China in thinking and population. China has long since left behind small fry faking of such trinkets as Rolex's for small fry countries like Thailand to pick up on (and idiots like Lady Gaga to comment on and annoy local people) and is now concentrating on big time industry. While you may still pick up high quality pots, pans and the like in Germany, France, the UK, USA and look to see where they are made, don't kid yourself all's well with the world when you see they are made in your country! Ask yourself instead, who owns the factory? Hence my "drivel" about unemployment and factory closures. (incidentally, the word is "closures", not "closure's" - schooling a bit lacking?) How is it unemployment in the West is as high as it's been since 1929 and getting worse and total countries are either publicly insolvent (Greece, Portugal Ireland and others) , or closetly insolvent - the USA particularly among them (nobody in the States from politician down to the man in the street having the guts to admit it)?
"Now,, who and what exactly are you?"
Ignoring the lousy grammar again - what business is that of yours?
again what does your drivel of what and where copies come from have to do with this topic? who makes it, what factories and all the rest of the drivel is SOOOOOO off topic.
even if 0.011% of the population knows who she is, its already at least 100 million times more than anyone knowing or even listening to what you have to say.
IN other words, you are in no position to make statements about her popularity, because you are smaller than a mosquito bite on the scale of things
Go Gaga!!
can u all not see its publicity she craves!!!
Well done Sweetheart that what Rock and Roll is about!!!!
She has gained a fan in me anyway!!!
Now I have to ask my children to put one of her CDs on and become a Monster!!!!lol
QualityTouristNumberOne, on 2012-05-26 11:15:47, said:
lujanit, on 2012-05-25 10:13:17, said:
This is hilarious. The Land of the Fake being called The Land of the Fake and the inhabitants crying foul.
its the HUB of the fakes man for god's sake get it right!
You are so ignorant it's not funny.
Thailand was NEVER the HUB of the fakes. That honour used to belong to Japan, then Taiwan, but both have been surpassed over the last 10 years or more by China. It’s become so good at stealing other people's trade secrets it too is no longer the HUB - it's the entire WHEEL! It's conned the entire World into believing Germany, France, England and that most gullible country of all USA delivers their own original products. Turn the product over - sometimes it may say it's made other than in China - but who owns the factories where it is built? And who unwittingly paid for these factories - those same countries from which the original trade secrets were stolen! And how have they paid for them? With factory closures, huge levels of unemployment, plummeting house prices, collapsing currencies, totally insolvent countries, and the worst depression since 1929 getting worse by the day.
Thailand's role in all this is minuscule.
Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?
Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!
Perhaps, but Bangkok gets more tourists buying the knock-off crap than Lanzhou.
Thailand is the retailer for the Chinese crap, so get off your high horse.
As far as LG being a nobody, just what is your net worth?
Thais have always been 'Truth-challenged'.....they all know what exists around them,in fact, but it would be considered very "impolite" to actually point it out, especially by a Farang. Lost Face.
isn't Lady Gaga the illegitimate bastard daughter of Madonna......next gen. pop music white-trash corporate whore.
Yes, and I've read that Madonna is none too happy that LG is stealing her thunder. But whats is Mags supposed to do now that she's old and ropy? She's probably just pissed because she didn't think of the shock-value of wearing a meat dress to the Grammys.
You don't want to be joked about selling fake stuff? Get your gov't to crack down on the fake stuff. Pretending it does not exist does not make it go away. Neither does trying to keep people to talk about it.
If it will make the Gaga critics happy, she did have to cancel her Indonesia show due to threats from Islamic hard liners.
Actually, the Indonesian authorities refused to issue her a permit for the show. The show was cancelled by the authorities, not by LG. I know it's splitting hairs, but that's how it went down.
If it will make the Gaga critics happy, she did have to cancel her Indonesia show due to threats from Islamic hard liners.
Actually, the Indonesian authorities refused to issue her a permit for the show. The show was cancelled by the authorities, not by LG. I know it's splitting hairs, but that's how it went down.
Back to the original post......Why would these scholars get upset over a comment made by someone who wears a dress made out of meat? I am gaga on that one!
If it will make the Gaga critics happy, she did have to cancel her Indonesia show due to threats from Islamic hard liners.
Actually, the Indonesian authorities refused to issue her a permit for the show. The show was cancelled by the authorities, not by LG. I know it's splitting hairs, but that's how it went down.
Permit? Sounds like the all to familiar 'face saving', had the promoters had not had all the necessary permits, they never would have scheduled Jakarta nor sold 50,000 tickets, only to have it cancelled at the last minute. Not like nobody knows what to expect from LG, it is not a secret like they just found out. It is not her first tour. The concert would have went on had the zealots not made the threats, not like anybody is forcing them to go to the concert. It is them forcing 50,000 people not to see the concert. It is the zealots forcing their will on others, as usual.
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Roota, on 2012-05-25 13:40:50, said:
