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[kerryk]

w11guy, on Yesterday, 14:59 , said:

Because someone hasn't been personally mugged doesn't make a place safe. Just take a look at the crime stats for Pattaya. There are lots of violent crimes. Much more than for a similar sized UK or US city. Yes, Pattaya is generally safe during the daytime, but at night it's a different place.

Crime stats from where?  Come on now.  Fess up.  There are no accurate statistics about Pattaya.  And how do you know at night it is not safe?  I lived there every night for 3 years.  So I know.  I hope the teacher recovers but don't make up reasons that you can't verify that the town is dangerous.  It is not dangerous.  Ask anyone who lives there.

[waza]

Very curious occurrence, my sympathy to the victim.  Hmmm those hospital charges are closer to a western hospital rather than a THai one, a bit of price gouging I think.

[rodentwarrior]

It would appear yet another case of a foreigner in Thailand with no health insurance.  Makes my blood boil, and this guy is a teacher?  Should know better.

I hope he has generous friends, and wealthy parents.  All completely avoidable with a decent policy.

And yet again another clear demonstration to those clowns who say they can just get on a plane if they get sick.  Can't get on a plane if you are in ICU in a coma.

That said, I hope he recovers for the sake of his family as much as himself.

[simple1]

Mobi, on Yesterday, 11:38 , said:

I'm curious why this story is in the Chaingrai Times. What's the connection?

And the hospital charges 2,000 GBP per day!!! That's nearly 100,000 Baht. Even PBH doesn't  charge that much!!!

By way of some background, a Thai family member was hit by a car and was in a coma (unfortunately he died), cost 47,000 baht for first day of treatment  at Chon Buri Hospital, so not suprised at 100,000 a day for a private hospital. I hope the victim of the attack soon recovers...

[simple1]

rodentwarrior, on Yesterday, 15:24 , said:

It would appear yet another case of a foreigner in Thailand with no health insurance.  Makes my blood boil, and this guy is a teacher?  Should know better.

I hope he has generous friends, and wealthy parents.  All completely avoidable with a decent policy.

And yet again another clear demonstration to those clowns who say they can just get on a plane if they get sick.  Can't get on a plane if you are in ICU in a coma.

That said, I hope he recovers for the sake of his family as much as himself.

If you click through to the news article in the original story, a family member states he does have medical insurance, but maybe not enough to cover all the potential costs. I think you will find private medical insurance, at least in Thailand, does not provide unlimited cover

[Rimmer]

Insensitive speculative post removed

[britmaveric]

Pattaya is like most places in Thailand very safe. Course if u go looking for trouble then you can find it - dare say their is missing info to what actually happened. (random rebar attack? I doubt it - most likely a local dispute)

Hope lad recovers - certainly got unlucky written all over him.

[lovetotravel]

Very sad for this man.  Let's hope he recovers soon and the culprits are caught.

As for Pattaya, I'd walk around Beach Road at night any time when compared to parts of Rome, Los Angeles, London, Buenos Aires, Paris or any other major city in the world.  It ain't the best, but it's FAR from the worst.

[Rimmer]

More insensitive speculative posts removed.

Also a general flame denigrating residents and visitors to Pattaya and the quoted replies to it

[COXYATCITY]

Mobi, on Yesterday, 11:38 , said:

I'm curious why this story is in the Chaingrai Times. What's the connection?

And the hospital charges 2,000 GBP per day!!! That's nearly 100,000 Baht. Even PBH doesn't  charge that much!!!

, the   bkk pattaya hospital, is famous for overpricing.i was at the hospital,with a friend who was seriously ill ,his bill after 14 hours was 120,00 baht,he was in icu,the money had to be paid which it was,they kept him there for 3 days,he was then taken of life support machines,only ha a drip left in his hand,they wanted to keep him for another day,,2 of the good nurses told my wife he does not need to be in icu,but in a room upstairs,which was 4000 baht a day,

[guzzi850m2]

FarangBuddha, on Yesterday, 15:06 , said:

I'm sure there's much more to the story...maybe we'll get it...maybe not. Nobody "deserves" to be beaten into a coma by a metal rod but I'm sure it was not a random act either (as portrayed in this media account) and I feel much safer anywhere in Thailand than in most places in the good ole' US of A!

Yes there must be more to this story than we read here, why get beaten into a coma with an iron bar? Was it road rage? He got out of his car and then attacked. Not many days ago a Norwegian in a Fortuner was shot at (5 times, 11mm handgun) but luckily enough his wife or GF was only hit in the arm and that was supposedly road rage.
I don't like driving after 8 PM especially in the weekends, speeding and drunk driving seems to be "normal".

I hope the teacher recovers.

[chops]

FarangBuddha, on Yesterday, 15:06 , said:

I'm sure there's much more to the story...maybe we'll get it...maybe not. Nobody "deserves" to be beaten into a coma by a metal rod but I'm sure it was not a random act either (as portrayed in this media account) and I feel much safer anywhere in Thailand than in most places in the good ole' US of A!

Yeah, there is always more to the story than they're reporting.  I've lived here for years and nobody has touched me.  Must have gotten into a dispute at the bar.

[pauljones]

A revenge attack for an incident months or years earlier?

[sharecropper]

Yet another story suppressed by the much-leaned-on Pattaya press.

It'as all over the UK press, even the Chiang Rai Times has covered it, but the local media?

So much serious crime goes on here, which is why vested interests want to hush it up through gagging the press, rather than doing the harder job of actually dealing with it.

[wpcoe]

from the article linked in the OP:

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“We are doing everything we can to raise the money needed to ensure Adam survives and then to bring him home. The hospitals there are ruthless and if they don’t have the money on a per day basis, they may leave you to die. We won’t let this happen to somebody who really is one in a million.”

Interesting that that is the perception of his friend in Leeds.  Apparently the Pattaya hospitals' reputation has spread overseas.

[Fishenough]

Have to add that after knowing many English teacher for a few years now, their provided health care is woefully inadequate. It's bare minimal coverage with many limitations of whats covered. Several times have shared beers with teachers, drowning their sorrow when they discovered their recent motorcycle accident hospital bills are not covered due to some exception on the 3000 baht a year group coverage.

In Pattaya you'd think it would be crazy not to carry more insurance - though I'm completely unaware of what Pattaya schools do offer their teachers.

[GeorgeO]

Ohyesuare, on Yesterday, 12:47 , said:

Hmm, who in Pattaya has a short temper and likes to attack teachers....... I don't think Pattaya is a dangerous place unless you walk around in dimly lit areas with 5 baht of gold on you.

So, we only have ourselves to blame if we happen to be wearing something of value and get attacked and robbed (and probaly beaten with a metal bar)?

This kind of attack has become far too frequent, and it appears that the attackers are using such heavy implements with the intention of ensuring that their victims do not survive to identify them.

Your comment is nonsense..! It's like saying that girls deserve to be raped if they are not covered up from head to foot....!! Do they deserve all they get, as this teached did...?!?

[LucidLucifer]

rodentwarrior, on Yesterday, 15:24 , said:

It would appear yet another case of a foreigner in Thailand with no health insurance.  Makes my blood boil, and this guy is a teacher?  Should know better.

I hope he has generous friends, and wealthy parents.  All completely avoidable with a decent policy.

And yet again another clear demonstration to those clowns who say they can just get on a plane if they get sick.  Can't get on a plane if you are in ICU in a coma.

That said, I hope he recovers for the sake of his family as much as himself.

Regents School offer health insurance as part of their ex-pat package. Clearly not a very good policy though if it doesn't cover the bills in full.

And for those that keep banging the drum of how safe Pattaya is, just by the very nature of the place and the type of individual it attracts, both Thai and Foreign, I can't think of a more dangerous place in Thailand.

[LucidLucifer]

Fishenough, on 48 minutes ago, said:

Have to add that after knowing many English teacher for a few years now, their provided health care is woefully inadequate. It's bare minimal coverage with many limitations of whats covered. Several times have shared beers with teachers, drowning their sorrow when they discovered their recent motorcycle accident hospital bills are not covered due to some exception on the 3000 baht a year group coverage.

This guy wasn't an English teacher. He worked at an international school. A big difference. That's what makes him not being fully covered by his insurance even more shocking. Shame on Regents, their pay package is pretty crappy aswell.

Edited by LucidLucifer, 14 minutes ago.

[kerryk]

LucidLucifer, on 31 minutes ago, said:

rodentwarrior, on Yesterday, 15:24 , said:

It would appear yet another case of a foreigner in Thailand with no health insurance.  Makes my blood boil, and this guy is a teacher?  Should know better.

I hope he has generous friends, and wealthy parents.  All completely avoidable with a decent policy.

And yet again another clear demonstration to those clowns who say they can just get on a plane if they get sick.  Can't get on a plane if you are in ICU in a coma.

That said, I hope he recovers for the sake of his family as much as himself.

Regents School offer health insurance as part of their ex-pat package. Clearly not a very good policy though if it doesn't cover the bills in full.

And for those that keep banging the drum of how safe Pattaya is, just by the very nature of the place and the type of individual it attracts, both Thai and Foreign, I can't think of a more dangerous place in Thailand.

I guess the time has come to admit this has turned into another Pattaya bashing thread.  The "no sex please I'm British" Brigade is out in force again.  Hope the guy gets better.

[dob310870]

GeorgeO, on 43 minutes ago, said:

Ohyesuare, on Yesterday, 12:47 , said:

Hmm, who in Pattaya has a short temper and likes to attack teachers....... I don't think Pattaya is a dangerous place unless you walk around in dimly lit areas with 5 baht of gold on you.

So, we only have ourselves to blame if we happen to be wearing something of value and get attacked and robbed (and probaly beaten with a metal bar)?

This kind of attack has become far too frequent, and it appears that the attackers are using such heavy implements with the intention of ensuring that their victims do not survive to identify them.

Your comment is nonsense..! It's like saying that girls deserve to be raped if they are not covered up from head to foot....!! Do they deserve all they get, as this teached did...?!?

I think that the original comment was meant to be sarcastic.

[Suradit69]

JoePai, on Yesterday, 12:00 , said:

somtampet, on Yesterday, 11:05 , said:

barryofthailand, on Yesterday, 10:58 , said:

Pattaya is now a dangerous place. You must be very careful.
Barry

no its not

You obviously do not live in Pattaya or know anything about it to say Pattaya is safe !

I've lived in Pattaya for about 15 years and agree that it is not a dangerous place. Of course there are crimes committed here, some of them violent & brutal, but that's true of virtually every place on earth. I am not speculating about this individual since I know nothing about him, but certainly some of the senseless crime takes place in bars or involving people who have been drinking. Much of the crime reported involving farangs seems to always have some connection to bars, drinking and/or sex workers. If you play with fire ...

[david555]

dob310870, on 14 minutes ago, said:

GeorgeO, on 43 minutes ago, said:

Ohyesuare, on Yesterday, 12:47 , said:

Hmm, who in Pattaya has a short temper and likes to attack teachers....... I don't think Pattaya is a dangerous place unless you walk around in dimly lit areas with 5 baht of gold on you.

So, we only have ourselves to blame if we happen to be wearing something of value and get attacked and robbed (and probaly beaten with a metal bar)?

This kind of attack has become far too frequent, and it appears that the attackers are using such heavy implements with the intention of ensuring that their victims do not survive to identify them.

Your comment is nonsense..! It's like saying that girls deserve to be raped if they are not covered up from head to foot....!! Do they deserve all they get, as this teached did...?!?

I think that the original comment was meant to be sarcastic.

Looks what is really needed for foreigners in Thailand is a kind of repatriation insurance ..... to be as quick as possible permitted to  be repatriated to western social care..!!