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#1 phl

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Posted Yesterday, 20:12

May be a silly question, but does anyone know what is the employment minimum age in Thailand?

I have a 16 year old apply for a job in hotel, but unsure if someone of this age can be employed

It is hotel work, but we do have a small bar, NOT  a girl bar, but a bar for guest to have a drink

We do not have any service girls, or "hostess" so the 16 year old may be required time to time sell/serve drinks(but it is very very rare as the bar is pretty boring with no entertainment at all)

Any one with knowledge or perhaps links to Thai law?

#2 soi41

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Posted Yesterday, 20:26

Posted Image On another thread about Thai landlords, you pretended to be a big shot legal expert an d here you are asking legal advice Posted Image

#3 phl

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Posted Yesterday, 21:22

View Postsoi41, on Yesterday, 20:26 , said:


Posted Image On another thread about Thai landlords, you pretended to be a big shot legal expert an d here you are asking legal advice Posted Image

Landlord/property legal and employment legal are 2 VERY different matters and fields.

Not to know that, does make you qualified for the award of the biggest trollPosted Image

PS. Also a good idea to look up the definition of "legal advice" because i certainly am not asking for legal advice, but rather asking for minimum age regulations.

Edited by phl, Yesterday, 21:27 .


#4 PattayaParent

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Posted Yesterday, 22:34

I think that the age for work in a bar is 20, same as the drinking laws?

I'd say if in doubt then don't take the risk.

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Posted Yesterday, 22:41

View PostPattayaParent, on Yesterday, 22:34 , said:

I think that the age for work in a bar is 20, same as the drinking laws?

I'd say if in doubt then don't take the risk.

You are correct about the bar, but its not a bar, it is a hotel, but does have a bar in the lobby. not pattaya style, but a standard hotel lounge bar

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Posted Yesterday, 22:48

As I apart from being a troll, even have a nicer side to me: National legal minimum age for on-premise (serving) sales of alkoholic beverages, beer,wine,spirit are 20! Posted Image

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Posted Yesterday, 22:59

View Postsoi41, on Yesterday, 22:48 , said:

As I apart from being a troll, even have a nicer side to me: National legal minimum age for on-premise (serving) sales of alkoholic beverages, beer,wine,spirit are 20! Posted Image

Idiot, read the post. She has applied for a job in hotel NOT the bar, HOWEVER hotel does have a bar on premises.

16 year olds are employed at 7-11 and 7-11 sell alcohol, now that you have once again shown your total ignorance on yet another matter Please go troll elsewherePosted Image

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Posted Yesterday, 23:01

My understanding is that  the minor must not be anywhere near the bar, not even washing glasses or mopping the floor. All it takes is one person to make a complaint to the authorities and you have a hassle.

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Posted Yesterday, 23:23

View Postphl, on Yesterday, 22:59 , said:

View Postsoi41, on Yesterday, 22:48 , said:

As I apart from being a troll, even have a nicer side to me: National legal minimum age for on-premise (serving) sales of alkoholic beverages, beer,wine,spirit are 20! Posted Image

Idiot, read the post. She has applied for a job in hotel NOT the bar, HOWEVER hotel does have a bar on premises.

16 year olds are employed at 7-11 and 7-11 sell alcohol, now that you have once again shown your total ignorance on yet another matter Please go troll elsewherePosted Image
IDIOT!! Read my answer: "serving". I'm out!

#10 yoshiwara

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Posted Yesterday, 23:49

If the bar had its own separate entrance and there was no ambiguity re responsibilities then OK yes, but if the bar is an integral part of the hotel, even if the 16 year old only served soft drinks on occasion, you are opening yourself up to the risk of prosecution. It is the risk of prosecution that you primarily want to avoid and if the job description requires a new employee to on occasion serve customers drinks as part of their duties then you are better off hiring an older person over 20. Re the comment above re selling goods in 7-11 I am not sure if it is regarded as the same thing ie selling goods Vs serving drinks. See section 50 (4) of the labour Protection Act of 1998 below. Suppose the 16 year old was serving in the bar when it was occupied by male customers who were accompanied by 'hostesses' from elsewhere. Not necessarily guilty but a risk of prosecution.


Section 50. A boss shall be prohibited from permitting a child employee under the age of eighteen years to work in the following places:
  • (1)An abattoir.
  • (2)A casino.
  • (3)A dance, folk dance or ronggeng hall.
  • (4)A place which sells and provides food, alcohol, tea or other beverages, with hostesses to serve customers or with places for resting or sleeping or with massage services for customers.
  • (5) 0ther places as prescribed in ministerial regulations.

Edited by yoshiwara, Today, 00:08 .


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Posted Today, 00:42

View Postyoshiwara, on Yesterday, 23:49 , said:

If the bar had its own separate entrance and there was no ambiguity re responsibilities then OK yes, but if the bar is an integral part of the hotel, even if the 16 year old only served soft drinks on occasion, you are opening yourself up to the risk of prosecution. It is the risk of prosecution that you primarily want to avoid and if the job description requires a new employee to on occasion serve customers drinks as part of their duties then you are better off hiring an older person over 20. Re the comment above re selling goods in 7-11 I am not sure if it is regarded as the same thing ie selling goods Vs serving drinks. See section 50 (4) of the labour Protection Act of 1998 below. Suppose the 16 year old was serving in the bar when it was occupied by male customers who were accompanied by 'hostesses' from elsewhere. Not necessarily guilty but a risk of prosecution.


Section 50. A boss shall be prohibited from permitting a child employee under the age of eighteen years to work in the following places:
  • (1)An abattoir.
  • (2)A casino.
  • (3)A dance, folk dance or ronggeng hall.
  • (4)A place which sells and provides food, alcohol, tea or other beverages, with hostesses to serve customers or with places for resting or sleeping or with massage services for customers.
  • (5) 0ther places as prescribed in ministerial regulations.

On occasion when I have purchased alcohol at Tesco Lotus and the cashier has been underage they have always gotten another older sales assistants acknowledgement for purchase.  As for bars the other fella is correct over 18 (is it a bar or restaurant license you have. If restaurant then different rules apply)

20 is the age for hostess

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Edited by thaicbr, Today, 00:44 .


#12 Theo007

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Posted Today, 04:31

I think you will find that the legal age to work in a bar in any capacity is eighteen and twenty to drink in one.



 


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