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[tomcreeduk]

Some advise please.

The GF at the time came to the UK for a visit earlier this year. We flew together so I filled her arrival / departure landing card for her. She will now fly over on her own with her settlement visa within her passport. Does she need to fill one of these out as she will be here 27 months and hopefully for longer.

My questions are

Does she fill one in.
If so what would the return date be.

I'm leaning on your experiences. Thanks

[7by7]

All non British, EU, EEA or Swiss passport holders have to fill in a landing card when entering the UK.

The landing card doesn't ask for a date of leaving, it asks for the length of stay. I would put "indefinitely" or "coming to live" or similar. The immigration officer will see that she has a settlement visa and so wont be expecting her to have an exact date for when, or even if, she next travels out of the UK.

[tomcreeduk]

Thank you. Your sure an asset to this forum...

[blades1889]

Be sure to explain to ur Mrs to fill in the landing card as best as she can, anything missing could cause delay, me and the wife arrived back from Thailand a few weeks ago and in manchester my Mrs didnt put down her occupation in UK, This caused delay and had to fill in properly and had to go to the back again.
The women was so ignorent, what the f**k has that got to do with her, my Mrs has ILR for f**k sake.
Tossers at manchester imigration, never a problem a heathrow.
Lee

[ThaiVisaExpress]

Just fill in the above example for her she can insert it on her arrival card herself.

[alanrobson]

He didn't say his Mrs was thick. Why do people assume a Thai coming to the UK is thick? Of course she can fill out a form!!!! He asked a question and he got the answer, don't assume his Mrs can do what any 11 year old could do.

Thats why forums piss me right off and I rarely write on them.

[7by7]

No, but as he filled it in for her when she visited indicates that she may not be able to read and write English very well. In which case giving her an example to copy would be a great help, would it not?

When you travel to Thailand do you complete the Thai equivalent in Thai or English?

[alanrobson]

7by7, on Yesterday, 20:07 , said:

No, but as he filled it in for her when she visited indicates that she may not be able to read and write English very well. In which case giving her an example to copy would be a great help, would it not?

When you travel to Thailand do you complete the Thai equivalent in Thai or English?

Yeh, that's a fair assumption I guess. But she must have enough English to fill a form in unless she didnt go to school a P3 kid would manage that.

I complete the Thai landing card in Thai but I lived and worked in Thailand.

[7by7]

I'm glad that you can read and write Thai, and envious.

I don't, however, have your confidence in the ability of the average Thai to fill in a form in English.

My wife and step-daughter couldn't when they first came to live in the UK. I did it for them.

My sister-in-law couldn't when she came to visit, she asked the person sat next to her.

My step-son could when he came to visit; but he went to university.

Incidentally, when entering Thailand my step-daughter used to get her mother to fill in the form (what is it called?). Then one trip when she was about 16 she decided to do it herself; but she did it in English. The immigration officer made her fill in another one, saying "If you're Thai, complete this in Thai!"

[alanrobson]

7by7, on Yesterday, 21:33 , said:

I'm glad that you can read and write Thai, and envious.

I don't, however, have your confidence in the ability of the average Thai to fill in a form in English.

My wife and step-daughter couldn't when they first came to live in the UK. I did it for them.

My sister-in-law couldn't when she came to visit, she asked the person sat next to her.

My step-son could when he came to visit; but he went to university.

Incidentally, when entering Thailand my step-daughter used to get her mother to fill in the form (what is it called?). Then one trip when she was about 16 she decided to do it herself; but she did it in English. The immigration officer made her fill in another one, saying "If you're Thai, complete this in Thai!"

I wouldn't be too envious, my Thai is shite but I can read and write basics as any Thai child with a P3 education could....

The questionaire asks very simplistic questions that your 'average Thai' would be able to answer, I find it hard to believe that a Thai kid aged 16 wouldn't be able to fill it in correctly assuming they have got past P3, certainly no need for a university education!!!!!! OK, I undertstand that your sister in law perhaps couldn't but surely your wife could unless of course that she cannot read?

1. Family name
2. First name
3. Sex (2 examples male / female)
4. Town and country of birth
5. Nationality
6. Contract addess in UK...


flight number

etc etc etc

All of these words are ones Thai kids would have been learning at school from a very early age. words like Family, name, male, female, town in UK, address, nationality, birth. basic quesiton forms etc etc etc.

I can only assume that your wife was able to communuicate verbally with you at that time and perhaos she had a low level of educatuion, along with the Thai daughter (in law). I do appreciate that some Thais in poor areas of Isaan do not have access to education but really mate, my 9 year old nephews would have those words in the english language mind bank!!!

[rawhod]

alanrobson, on Yesterday, 19:49 , said:

He didn't say his Mrs was thick. Why do people assume a Thai coming to the UK is thick? Of course she can fill out a form!!!! He asked a question and he got the answer, don't assume his Mrs can do what any 11 year old could do.

Thats why forums piss me right off and I rarely write on them.

quote also from alanrobson
"PS I am not an educated chap and I can't get my head around this and past the introductory links like the one above."

You are, in one thread, asking for detailed advice; and in this thread criticising constructive comments made by "people obviously much more educated than yourself". Be careful...7by7 and Visa Express are very well respected members of this forum. The forum that "pisses you off"

[rawhod]

For your information:-

I live in Chiang Mai with my Thai wife who is in her 50's. She was brought up in San Sai just north of the city. She went to school there where she learned to read and write Thai, she is very intelligent. She feels very fortunate since she has a sister a couple of years older who cannot read or write Thai. In those days, they did not teach English, so she would be in the same situation as the OP.
I'm sure there are many Thai wife's of the same age who are in the same situation.

[SantiSuk]

blades1889, on Yesterday, 18:10 , said:

Be sure to explain to ur Mrs to fill in the landing card as best as she can, anything missing could cause delay, me and the wife arrived back from Thailand a few weeks ago and in manchester my Mrs didnt put down her occupation in UK, This caused delay and had to fill in properly and had to go to the back again.
The women was so ignorent, what the f**k has that got to do with her, my Mrs has ILR for f**k sake.
Tossers at manchester imigration, never a problem a heathrow.
Lee

Immigration are like referees - they are always right. You seem to be like Joey Barton and could be looking at a 12 visit ban if you're not careful .

I came thru Manc a month ago with Thai family. They were sweet to us but some Chinese family were being given the third degree and waterboarding treatment at the desk - unnecessarily viscious in my view, although the applicant clearly had big issues. As we arrived at the desk one immi guy said to the other. Keep those guys over their to sweat it out - the son is a f***ing Pain in the @rse. Completely out of order they should let us hear that in my view.

[beano2274]

I did for my MIL and my wife, although my wife can speak English well enough to pass any test. Just easier for me to do, not about their abilities.