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Posted 2012-06-13 17:45:06
Cheapest hotels are here, in Bangkok
BANGKOK: -- Bangkok offers the least expensive four-star accommodation of world cities rated by the TripAdvisor Tripindex, at less than one-quarter the cost of those in London on average.
However, if travellers want a night on the town as well, Hanoi offers the best deals, the survey found.
The average four-star room rate in Bangkok is US$81.13 (Bt2,563) per night, cheapest on the list. The most expensive rooms are in London, averaging $361.64 per night - more than quadruple the cost of those in Bangkok.
The average cost of a room in the 10 least expensive cities on the list is just $113.32, while the most expensive cities come in at an average of $261.99 a night. That means the rooms in the 10 priciest cities are more than double the cost of those in the 10 least expensive.
The TripIndex also calculated the combined costs for two of a one-night stay in a four-star hotel, cocktails, a two-course dinner with a bottle of wine, and taxi transport (two return journeys of about 3.2 kilometres each). Costs listed are accurate for June 1 to August 31.
Under those criteria, Hanoi offers the most affordable night out for travellers with a total TripIndex cost of $141.12. At more than triple the cost of Hanoi, London topped the list as most expensive with a cost of $518.01.
However, a trip to Asia is no guarantee of "more bang for their buck", said Jean Ow Yeong, TripAdvisor spokeswoman.
"Interestingly, once on the ground, European cities such as Budapest and Warsaw turn out to be as affordable as some Asian cities, while Singapore and Sydney are in the ranks of London, Paris and New York as some of the most expensive cities."
Southeast Asia was the region that claimed the most cities in the 10-least-expensive list, including Hanoi, which took the top spot, while Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta took the third, fifth and eighth spots respectively.
Meanwhile, Europe dominated the most-expensive list with seven cities: London took the first place, while Oslo, Zurich, Paris, Stockholm, Moscow and Copenhagen took the second, third, fourth, fifth, seventh and eighth places respectively.
The international TripIndex destination list comprises key cities from 48 of the 50 countries that receive the largest number of international visitor arrivals according to data compiled by the United Nations World Tourism Organisation.
Prices were collected through a variety of research methods. Prices were taken in local currencies between March and May and converted into US dollars on May 29.
TripAdvisor is the world's largest travel site. TripAdvisor-branded sites make up the largest travel community in the world, with more than 50 million unique monthly visitors and more than 60 million reviews and opinions. The sites operate in 30 countries worldwide.
-- The Nation 2012-06-13
Posted 2012-06-13 18:28:06
I don't think this is much to be proud of when you consider the appalling wages and, in many cases, conditions the staff work for and under. Although I enjoy the prices part of me is appalled when I'm paying more for a night's accommodation than the staff serving me incredibly well will get for week's salary! And do they get all or even part of the 10% service charge automatically added to the bill?
Pay the staff at even half the salary level of the Western European/Australian hotels and see what the cost would be!
Posted 2012-06-13 18:41:46
The thinking is a little flawed. No country pays their employees based on other countries cost of living. Employees paid in more expensive cities probably don't make much more than they do here if you consider the higher cost of living in their own cities.
If you feel guilty, pay the staff that provides extra service a tip directly. The same problems with employee compensation applies to all employees in their country.
The only way to protest this situation is with your choice of staying in a hotel here or somewhere else.
Posted 2012-06-13 19:24:37
Oh dear the old wage cry. Id like you to go find a townhouse or small house to rent, for $200 a month in Australia then get back to me.. cause ill rent it.
Service charge is put in to a pool and is divide among staff at the end of the month. (-minus tea money, just because they can)
Posted 2012-06-13 19:30:29
However, a trip to Asia is no guarantee of "more bang for their buck",
I will bet it does.... .....this is one of the main reasons Thailand is so popular...
Posted 2012-06-13 19:56:34
Why do they continue to announce this total Bullshit !!
you walk into any 4-5 star hotel in Bangkok and see what they want !! it's not close to what this BS story indicates ...
WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH ....
do they really think everyone is so stupid ?
Posted 2012-06-13 20:08:26
Should really compare cities where wages/costs are similar. Bkk hotel is not so cheap when you add the air fare on. especially Thai Airways.
Posted 2012-06-13 21:34:55
Survey's surely not taking into account the extremely poor infrastructure (crowded, unmaintained sidewalks or lack thereof, bizarro-world traffic to start with) surrounding said hotels in both BKK and Hanoi
Edited by seminomadic, 2012-06-13 21:37:16.
Posted 2012-06-13 22:42:35
sorry unclear as to what u mean by:
"you walk into any 4-5 star hotel in Bangkok and see what they want !!?
Posted 2012-06-13 22:52:52
Do you leave a tip when you check out?
Posted 2012-06-14 07:01:25
All the article proves is that Thailand wins in the race to be bottom. And then they complain about the tourists which come here.
Fat, beer swilling English louts [to play along with the (incorrect) national stereotyping often seen on TV] come here cause the hotels are cheap, which means more money to be spent swilling beer and being loutish...and banging bar girls. Stands to reason??
Posted 2012-06-14 08:36:20
Hey what about having a go at ....the American porn producers & drug dealers, Russian louts, Indian, Chinese etc while your at it.... besides British loutish is a cultural right developed over many centuries of invading places and creating empire etc...
Posted 2012-06-14 09:21:07
I wasn't having a go
Posted 2012-06-14 10:05:33
Don't think that English lager louts will be paying to stay in 4 star hotel, more like 800 baht a night
Posted 2012-06-14 10:34:51
No mention of Tokyo in the OP. Did the World stop and Japan get off?
Posted 2012-06-14 11:05:52
While the top 5 stars may be really such I have stayed at several 4 star and 5 star hotels in Bangkok.
In each case they should have been labelled at least one star less.
They may have many staff but the old thai habit of sannook and sitting or standing round talking to each other abounds when customers require service.
THey do have better room service than abroad but the restaurants still bring food to customers at different times and it may evn be cold when it arrives due to having been sitting round too long.
At one 4 star last month a steak was obviously precooked and heated in the microwave and the vegetables were still refrigeator cold.
If we take the labels as they should be maybe the thai hotels, whilst some are cheap are not the bargain they seem.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:24:56
Any discussion based on star ratings is fraught with difficulties. In general though I agree with the headline, if the situation is the same as 4 years ago when I used to decide on venues for my company's regional business conferences. Much cheaper than HK and Singapore, and cheaper than KL. Jakarta, too difficult (at the time). Tokyo out of sight. Europe out of sight. Mainstream US cities out of sight. Florida could come up with some good deals off season.
The Peninsular, at less than 100 bucks a night for a personal stay including breakfast (this was 4 years ago), used to knock my socks off.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:37:32
What exactly are you suggesting? Just because you are carrying around all of this unresolved guilt, does that mean the entire economic scale in Asia should change? Would that somehow make you feel better about yourself, and the world? Think about it. The wages in Thailand are higher than many of it's neighbors, and the hotels are already expensive enough, if you take all of this into account. Do you honestly think higher rates would translate into higher wages, and not just more mansions for the owners? If you answered yes to this question, I have an very well priced bridge I can sell you.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:42:24
I was wondering how we were going to give this thread an anti Thai spin . Good job. 1st post.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:46:50
Perhaps you can document your statement otherwise methinks you are posting rubbish.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:51:04
Of course we should judge Thai hotels by their steak quality! Makes perfect sense to me.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:52:52
Exactly, main problems:
1) staff: no english....
2) staff: happy chatting while the customer needs something
3) lousy European food....steak bloody, medium or well done is always the same well done and the spaghetti sauce comes out of the can.
You feel well in the hotel as everyone is smiling friendly and when they bring you the wrong food and cold you are still happy because it is charming.
But on the hard facts the service is often below the rating.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:53:48
Of course we should judge Thai hotels by their steak quality! Makes perfect sense to me.
yes we should judge also by the food quality.
Posted 2012-06-14 11:54:05
I think you were having a go at Thai bashing. We all can read. You did write, "All the article proves is that Thailand wins in the race to be bottom. And then they complain about the tourists which come here."
Posted 2012-06-14 11:56:48
I realize the anti Thai and anti Asian bashing part of your post but the article didn't say they were rating infrastructure only hotels. You may need well maintained sidewalks but I doubt if many come to BKK in search of well maintained sidewalks.
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