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Posted 2012-07-16 06:30:04
Kokaew unfazed by bail reviewThe Nation BANGKOK: -- Pheu Thai MP Kokaew Pikulthong yesterday shrugged off an attempt to cancel his bail on grounds of being allegedly involved in inciting the red shirts to oppose the judicial ruling on charter change."I am not worrying about the bail review because I am prepared to justify my activities," he said. Kokaew said he expected a favourable review on his bail as he had not tried to sway the red shirts to act in contempt of the Constitution Court as alleged by Democrat MP Nipit Intarasombat. "If I wanted to confront the judiciary, then I should not have convinced the red shirts to cancel a plan to rally at the high court," he said. Citing Kokaew's remarks against judicial intervention on the charter amendment bill as evidence, Nipit filed a complaint seeking to revoke his bail pending trial for terrorism and related charges in connection with the political strife in 2010. Reacting to the Democrat Party's demand that the government rein in its red allies, Kokaew said the red shirts were free people and not under the control of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts. When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch. Democrat legal adviser Ramet Rattanachaweng called on the government to initiate legal proceedings against the red shirts involved in disturbing the Democrat rally in Chon Buri. The government should take action when its people are tampering with the law, Ramet said. He also urged the Nitirat academic group to stop demanding the dismantling of the Constitution Court. Nitirat leader Worachet Pakeerut should return to study in Germany again as the model for the high court originated in that country where he received his graduate degree in law, he said. Should Worachet decide to become the spokesman for Pheu Thai Party, he should quit the academia and embark on a political career, he said. Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said the Democrats' demand that the government sever its ties with the red shirts was unreasonable. The Democrats have trouble with the red shirts while the government has friendly ties with all the political colours, he said.  -- The Nation 2012-07-16
#2
tlansford
Posted 2012-07-16 06:41:59
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from. He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008. He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
Posted 2012-07-16 06:49:22
What Kokaeow said last week was outrageous, even for the low standards of the red shirts. He must be feeling very foolish after the Constitution Court read its verdict.
Please put him back in prison where he belongs.
Posted 2012-07-16 06:52:22
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When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from.
He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008.
He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
He could have tried "they died because their bodies were weak from fasting", which is what Thaksin said after the Tak Bai massacre, in a televised doorstop interview. Does that one bother you as well, or is use of violence ok when its your political team dishing it out?
#5
tlansford
Posted 2012-07-16 06:59:40
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from.
He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008.
He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
He could have tried "they died because their bodies were weak from fasting", which is what Thaksin said after the Tak Bai massacre, in a televised doorstop interview. Does that one bother you as well, or is use of violence ok when its your political team dishing it out?
He could have said something equally insensitive, but that would not have helped, eh? Nice try to toss this back onto Thaksin. But Abhisit is responsible for his own actions and his own statements. BTW, I believe his DPM did say something equally crass - along the lines of running into bullets... Abhisit's remarks after the unfortunate deaths of 2 protesters in 2008 were not only hard on the government, but also carried a certain noble righteousness - something that one could have though would have guided his own actions in 2009 and 2010. But actions speak louder than words.
#6
Buchholz
Posted 2012-07-16 07:15:01
"If I wanted to confront the judiciary, then I should not have convinced the red shirts to cancel a plan to rally at the high court," he said.
he didn't convince them, Thaksin did Kokaew said the red shirts were free people and not under the control of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.
they aren't, they, like her, are under the control of her brother .
Edited by Buchholz, 2012-07-16 07:18:22.
Posted 2012-07-16 07:16:48
I must buy some new glasses, I thought this thread was about Kokaeow and a review of his bail regarding his remarks about the Constitution Court.
Posted 2012-07-16 07:17:46
Lock him up.
Throw away the key.
End of.
Posted 2012-07-16 07:19:52
I must buy some new glasses, I thought this thread was about Kokaeow and a review of his bail regarding his remarks about the Constitution Court.
The usual diversionary smokescreen.
Posted 2012-07-16 07:30:16
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from.
He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008.
He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
Red herring for breakfast. Yummy! 
Posted 2012-07-16 07:41:51
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from.
He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008.
He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
This thread is about Kokaew, not about Abhisit. 
Posted 2012-07-16 07:52:09
Posted 2012-07-16 08:27:44
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from.
He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008.
He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
Red herring for breakfast. Yummy!
I had kippers, toast and tea the other day.
Posted 2012-07-16 12:10:11
The headline is misleading, of course. How could the reporter possibly know what was in K's heart or mind? All the reporter can know is that K stated he was unfazed. Dollars to donuts, Mr. K realizes that he is in some jeapordy here and unless you are in the group that believes he really is a complete idiot, then you have to realize is lying. Bravado is his friend, and so statements such as Mr. K made to the press are to be expected. You can bet he is even more interested than you are to see how this turns out.
#15
tlansford
Posted 2012-07-16 12:13:44
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
This is one of those points which is really hard for Abhisit to escape from.
He has the ability to say the right things even if he doesn't always do the right things. Yet he has never been able (AFAIK) to say the right thing regarding 2010 as he so clearly did about 2008.
He said Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva should apologise for the 2010 bloodshed in order to appease the red shirts.
Even if Abhisit never did the right thing after screwing up the 2010 protest control, he could have at least said the right things... Talking is his strong point.
Red herring for breakfast. Yummy!
Quoting the OP is a red herring... The red-herring which you apparently caught by trolling
#16
phiphidon
Posted 2012-07-16 12:25:20
I'll try again When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
To put this into context what abhisit said was a lot more than that ‘For all that has happened, the PM cannot deny his responsibility, either by negligence or intention.
‘What is even worse than laying the blame on the authorities is vilifying the people.
‘I have never thought that we would have a state which has the people killed and seriously injured, and then accuses the people of the crimes. This is unacceptable.
‘I have heard those in the government always asking people whether they are Thai or not. Considering what you are doing now, it is not the question of being Thai or not, but whether you are human at all.
‘Today, [the government] has lost legitimacy. We are demanding that the PM take responsibility. [The PM] can resign, or if he is afraid that by his resignation, the Democrat Party will take power, he can dissolve the House. He cannot just do nothing, because if he does nothing, it would be tantamount to damaging the country and the political system.
http://www.prachatai...glish/node/1760
Abhisit seems to have lost this virtuous outlook on life just two years later as Kokaew quite rightly pointed out..........
Posted 2012-07-16 12:26:11
Abhisit and his Neo Nazi yellow shirt allies are the perfect example of what is wrong with Thailand. The elite feels they can kill, cheat and defraud and others who do not belong to the group should make a deep bow for them in order to show respect. The ghost is out of the bottle and if Abhisit and friends believe that the PM is controlling the red shirts he must come from another planet. The reds would also rebel against this government if there principles would be trampled on.
#18
phiphidon
Posted 2012-07-16 12:28:57
I had kippers, toast and tea the other day.
Now this post is off topic if anybody needs a guide.......
Posted 2012-07-16 12:30:07
Abhisit and his Neo Nazi yellow shirt allies are the perfect example of what is wrong with Thailand. The elite feels they can kill, cheat and defraud and others who do not belong to the group should make a deep bow for them in order to show respect. The ghost is out of the bottle and if Abhisit and friends believe that the PM is controlling the red shirts he must come from another planet. The reds would also rebel against this government if there principles would be trampled on.
And of course, red shirts and associates are a model of virtue, respect of law and democracy....  Amazing the things we can read here.
Posted 2012-07-16 12:40:45
Abhisit and his Neo Nazi yellow shirt allies are the perfect example of what is wrong with Thailand. The elite feels they can kill, cheat and defraud and others who do not belong to the group should make a deep bow for them in order to show respect. The ghost is out of the bottle and if Abhisit and friends believe that the PM is controlling the red shirts he must come from another planet. The reds would also rebel against this government if there principles would be trampled on.
And of course, red shirts and associates are a model of virtue, respect of law and democracy....
Amazing the things we can read here.
Since when Neo Nazi has the greatest respect for their father?
Posted 2012-07-16 12:42:37
<snip>
The red-herring which you apparently caught by trolling
OP = "Kokaew unfazed by bail review" No, the irrelevant but habitual Abhisit red herring, conveniently ignoring the main thrust of the OP, just jumped into the boat uninvited. Seems to happen quite often with some posters. 
Posted 2012-07-16 12:46:08
"I am not worrying about the bail review because I am prepared to justify my activities," he said.
He should be. How can one justify to start a civil war?   Put the monkey were the monkey belongs, in the "monkey house"
Civil war is not all bad. In the USA, the civil war helps to free BLACK slaves.
Posted 2012-07-16 13:12:46
I'll try again
When two people died due to the crowd-control operations during the Somchai Wongsawat government, Abhisit said that was unacceptable, he said, arguing Abhisit could not deny responsibility in the face of almost a hundred people killed under his watch.
To put this into context what abhisit said was a lot more than that
‘For all that has happened, the PM cannot deny his responsibility, either by negligence or intention.
‘What is even worse than laying the blame on the authorities is vilifying the people.
‘I have never thought that we would have a state which has the people killed and seriously injured, and then accuses the people of the crimes. This is unacceptable.
‘I have heard those in the government always asking people whether they are Thai or not. Considering what you are doing now, it is not the question of being Thai or not, but whether you are human at all.
‘Today, [the government] has lost legitimacy. We are demanding that the PM take responsibility. [The PM] can resign, or if he is afraid that by his resignation, the Democrat Party will take power, he can dissolve the House. He cannot just do nothing, because if he does nothing, it would be tantamount to damaging the country and the political system.
http://www.prachatai...glish/node/1760
Abhisit seems to have lost this virtuous outlook on life just two years later as Kokaew quite rightly pointed out..........
Unarmed protesters having cannisters of military grade tear gas shot directly at them killing them and taking limbs off. Armed protesters, who knew that the army had been authorised to shoot live rounds in self defence. 2 very different scenarios.
Posted 2012-07-16 13:14:35
I had kippers, toast and tea the other day.
Now this post is off topic if anybody needs a guide.......
If anyone needs a guide, please PM PPD. I'm sure he has a few secreted about his person. Might even get one of his white sticks thrown in.
#25
tlansford
Posted 2012-07-16 13:17:38
<snip>
The red-herring which you apparently caught by trolling
OP = "Kokaew unfazed by bail review"
No, the irrelevant but habitual Abhisit red herring, conveniently ignoring the main thrust of the OP, just jumped into the boat uninvited. Seems to happen quite often with some posters.
right-o - delete the part of the post stating that I was "quoting the OP". In fact, I was quoting Kokaew from the article itself. Perhaps you just don't like the point being presented by Kokeaw? Please participate or else feel free to take the "main thrust" as you put it and troll on someone else's posts.
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