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#26 ray23

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Posted 2013-03-06 16:42:52

We sale a few kilos at a time for retial. I'm sure there must be large buyer in our area. We only run about 1500 fish at a time. So retail is best for us. Never have any trouble selling at retail. If I had a rai pond migth take it on a bit differently. Or ponds are vey diffeerent then most. One of the reasons, keep 0-2 on all the time.

 

We are now at 10,000 plants on the mushrooms, sale them locally at retail.



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Posted 2013-03-06 17:48:24

Feedipedia: An on-line encyclopedia of animal feeds

Lots of information and datasheets of many feed types.

 

 

 

http://www.feedipedia.org/



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Posted 2013-03-07 21:43:30

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Posted 2013-03-08 02:11:08

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#30 David48

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Posted 2013-03-09 15:06:41

This thread is essentially designed to add to our collective knowledge about the Fish industry ... both for the commercial Farmer ... and the Hobby-Farm enthusiast.

 

So, thanks to reading one of RedBullHorn's posts ... I would like to add this Thread to our collective knowledge.

 

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Remember, fish tanks come in all shapes and sizes!

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#31 David48

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Posted 2013-03-09 15:13:52

Considering using an EM product?

 

'EM is the abbreviation for Effective Micro-Organisms.'

 

Check out this informative post by guess who ...  rolleyes.gif 

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Posted 2013-03-09 19:18:59

Considering using an EM product?

 

'EM is the abbreviation for Effective Micro-Organisms.'

 

Check out this informative post by guess who ...  rolleyes.gif

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We should start producing e-books from what you are dredging up. Some can be updated as we have learnt but there is a load of stuff I had forgotten about. 



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Posted 2013-03-09 21:32:14

Is there any differences in cultivating pha nin and tubtim? Is one harder to cultivate than the other? And are prices for them different?

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Posted 2013-03-10 11:30:21

I think this year I will cut back on commercial fish feed with our Pla Nin. Again following Aussie Don. only way to really find things out is give them a try. As one shoe doesn't fit all.


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Posted 2013-03-10 12:35:20

An old thread to solve foul smelling from water in a tank.

 

Sticky Water In Fish Tank


Edited by RedBullHorn, 2013-03-10 12:39:17.


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Posted 2013-03-10 12:39:22

Is there any differences in cultivating pha nin and tubtim? Is one harder to cultivate than the other? And are prices for them different?

Cultivation is about the same, tabtim demand a bit higher price in some areas but they are not as hardy as Tilapia, you can grow them together.

Thais will not pay extra for them in the village markets so we dont bother.



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Posted 2013-03-10 12:57:01

Thanks, good to know.

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Posted 2013-03-10 19:11:10

An old thread to solve foul smelling from water in a tank.

 

Sticky Water In Fish Tank

Read through it we did a small one to hold the fish for sale. Three days is it or they die. So we just put them in wehn we have orders. Talking about Plan Nin.

 

We have been trying to find Cat Fish fry for sale foor about three week in hte Udon area, b no licj so far. We know a supplier tyhat we used in the past. But, he doesn't seem to be able to get any out on Bangkok these days. Lat time I ran air into the pond this time when I ge them I will not o do that and see how things work out. Since the v crotters like walking out of a pond we will fence it to keep them in. I'm also going to place a ligh about a foot above the water and try to attract bugs to cut food costs down.

 

Anyone lese feel like your in a big experimentw00t.gif



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Posted 2013-03-10 21:51:26

During the bugs season (near Monsoon period)... they contribute 5-10% of the total FCR.

Black light (UV Tube) is a must ! thumbsup.gif



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Posted 2013-03-11 08:54:30

During the bugs season (near Monsoon period)... they contribute 5-10% of the total FCR.

Black light (UV Tube) is a must ! thumbsup.gif

 

RBH ... I hate to add to your workload ... but any chance of doing a separate thread on the use of the black light attracted bugs supplementing the fish food chain.

 

Or, if your time is limited, maybe a brief summary here?

 

I did some research and some said great ... some poo-pooed the idea.

 

Obviously it's working for you ... so if it's not a Trade Secret, care to share?

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Posted 2013-03-11 10:13:38

During the bugs season (near Monsoon period)... they contribute 5-10% of the total FCR.

Black light (UV Tube) is a must ! thumbsup.gif

Your the second source on that outstanding, I will give it a try if I ever get some fry. Must have been a heavy demand anyone else having trouble sourcing them?



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Posted 2013-03-11 12:08:12

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During the bugs season (near Monsoon period)... they contribute 5-10% of the total FCR.

Black light (UV Tube) is a must ! thumbsup.gif

 

RBH ... I hate to add to your workload ... but any chance of doing a separate thread on the use of the black light attracted bugs supplementing the fish food chain.

 

Or, if your time is limited, maybe a brief summary here?

 

I did some research and some said great ... some poo-pooed the idea.

 

Obviously it's working for you ... so if it's not a Trade Secret, care to share?

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A great % of the villagers have a "black light "setup, mainly to supplement their own food, by the time the family take their share there isnt much left for the fish and ducks.

The crickets and assorted beetles are to valuable cash wise to get down the line as food for the fish etc.fried crickets are bringing 20- 30 baht per 100 gram.sick.gif



#43 IsaanAussie

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Posted 2013-03-11 14:45:04

Do not know about the crickets and beetles but Black Soldier Fly larvae contain an organic acid that has been proven to reduce mortality in fishponds. This acid knock out various pathogenic viruses and fungii. The larvae also have a high protein value that is an alternative to fish meal in feeds. I would be pelletising catfish food today if I got get my hands on those guys.



#44 ray23

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Posted 2013-03-11 18:33:30

I would guess good protien in moast bugs and cutting down food costs will really help the bottom line.



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Posted 2013-03-11 18:44:32

An old thread to solve foul smelling from water in a tank.

 

Sticky Water In Fish Tank

Too bad that thread got archived, I would have bumped it. I am running 4 cement tanks and have no smelly water issues. But I have some homemade bio-filters that keep the water on the sweeter side. Still experimenting though.


Edited by canuckamuck, 2013-03-11 18:44:55.


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Posted 2013-03-11 18:55:57

An old thread to solve foul smelling from water in a tank.

 

Sticky Water In Fish Tank

Too bad that thread got archived, I would have bumped it. I am running 4 cement tanks and have no smelly water issues. But I have some homemade bio-filters that keep the water on the sweeter side. Still experimenting though.

 

Well when you have time post what yuo have done sure would like to use my holding tank more then three days. We use a double filter system white pads. anything past three days fish are dead. Try to do it with some fry, to get them to a better size before putting them in the floating nets. Just to do that I had to change water everyday. That get's real expensive real fast. So the little guys are in the floating nets now. I plan on releasing them into the main pond when the rain water fills the pond again. Sorry should have mentioned these are Plan Nin. I will google this and see if I can get some more information. But, hands on experience is much better.



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Posted 2013-03-11 19:08:38

 

An old thread to solve foul smelling from water in a tank.

 

Sticky Water In Fish Tank

Too bad that thread got archived, I would have bumped it. I am running 4 cement tanks and have no smelly water issues. But I have some homemade bio-filters that keep the water on the sweeter side. Still experimenting though.

 

Well when you have time post what yuo have done sure would like to use my holding tank more then three days. We use a double filter system white pads. anything past three days fish are dead. Try to do it with some fry, to get them to a better size before putting them in the floating nets. Just to do that I had to change water everyday. That get's real expensive real fast. So the little guys are in the floating nets now. I plan on releasing them into the main pond when the rain water fills the pond again. Sorry should have mentioned these are Plan Nin. I will google this and see if I can get some more information. But, hands on experience is much better.

Well I am going to be on the road tomorrow, but if I get back in time I will take a few pics and try to explain what I did. I am running Tab Tim currently.



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Posted 2013-03-11 19:17:25

Well I am going to be on the road tomorrow, but if I get back in time I will take a few pics and try to explain what I did. I am running Tab Tim currently.

 

I read that quickly canuckamuck ... and read ...

 

I am running Tim Tam currently ...  w00t.gif

 

 

Even though I'm the OP ... I'll get my coat!



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Posted 2013-03-11 19:27:30

I reviewed the stuff on Google to compare with what I'm using now. The biggest thing I noticed is they are filtering from the bottom up. Mine is just the opposite. I imagine won't be that hard to change things around.

 

Did mention something about using carbon. In the other thread it talks about using salt.



#50 RedBullHorn

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Posted 2013-03-11 20:16:06

 

During the bugs season (near Monsoon period)... they contribute 5-10% of the total FCR.

Black light (UV Tube) is a must ! thumbsup.gif

 

RBH ... I hate to add to your workload ... but any chance of doing a separate thread on the use of the black light attracted bugs supplementing the fish food chain.

 

Or, if your time is limited, maybe a brief summary here?

 

I did some research and some said great ... some poo-pooed the idea.

 

Obviously it's working for you ... so if it's not a Trade Secret, care to share?

.

A great % of the villagers have a "black light "setup, mainly to supplement their own food, by the time the family take their share there isnt much left for the fish and ducks.

The crickets and assorted beetles are to valuable cash wise to get down the line as food for the fish etc.fried crickets are bringing 20- 30 baht per 100 gram.sick.gif

 

I really think it would be best to consolidate into this thread as this in Fish Farming 201.

 

I was cricket farming back in 2008 just to supplement the fishes, i bought some cricket eggs for ฿600 then bred them in big concrete ring. Very easy set up with rice husk as bedding, commercial chicken feed as food, water melon and maize as side dishes. If memory serve right, it took 45 days for the collection of their eggs then expand to another concrete ring and another then another... i got a total of 13 rings ! but still not enough to feed 120'000 fishes back then. The crickets have to be collected and put into a sack for the purpose of terminating their lifes and then sun dry.... At the same time during that period i was experimenting a certain formula to concoct a supplementary booster for achieving better FCR, when I've finally got it right, i ended the cricket farm and set up black light (Ultra Violet light tube).
 

In the morning, the wife will come and collect the edible ones and happily scoot off... the rest i will just feed them to the fishes. This are the ones she can bag (under the black light), while individual pond have their light above the water 2m out from the dyke, the fishes got them.


Edited by RedBullHorn, 2013-03-11 20:20:42.






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