Posted 2006-03-17 02:04:57
Hi there, you culanary geniuses,
Now the mrs and i are back in the UK, we struggle to get hold of papaya for her Som Tam (i prefer to call it Pok Pok)
So could i ask, when you can't get hold of papaya, what do you find is the best veg to use as an alternative?
Cheers in advance
Mr BoJ
Posted 2006-03-17 02:11:27
mrbojangles, on 2006-03-17 02:04:57, said:
Hi there, you culanary geniuses,
Now the mrs and i are back in the UK, we struggle to get hold of papaya for her Som Tam (i prefer to call it Pok Pok)
So could i ask, when you can't get hold of papaya, what do you find is the best veg to use as an alternative?
Cheers in advance
Mr BoJ
Cabbage, carrot, unripe mango. Bought a recipe book in thailand and thats what they said to use in the absence of papaya
Posted 2006-03-17 02:17:41
ratchabuild, on 2006-03-16 19:11:27, said:
Cabbage, carrot, unripe mango. Bought a recipe book in thailand and thats what they said to use in the absence of papaya
Cheers for the rapid reply, ratchabuild
Posted 2006-03-17 02:33:46
Cucumber always works for us.
Posted 2006-03-17 02:54:25
chonabot, on 2006-03-16 19:33:46, said:
Cucumber always works for us.
Cheers chon. Do you bash it with a knife in the same way as papaya? So that it's in thin strips.
Posted 2006-03-17 03:25:05
Yes exactly the same way , main drawback against papaya is that it isn't as firm and needs to be eaten fairly quickly as it gets a bit soggy like.
Posted 2006-03-17 05:21:29
had an excellent som tam at Jomtien beach with green mango...not much nam pla either...
I was shocked to get back to Suphan and imbibe the local som tam lady's concoction (she comes around with a side car every afternoon)...
gag, hack and otherwise prostrate from poisoning... to the wife "darling, I thought that som tam was all same same???..."
she smiled in evil fashion...
Edited by tutsiwarrior, 2006-03-17 05:28:08.
Posted 2006-03-17 05:29:02
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-16 22:21:29, said:
had an excellent som tam at Jomtien beach with green mango...not much nam pla either...
I was shocked to get back to Suphan and imbibe the local som tam lady's concoction (she comes around with a side car every afternoon)...
gag, hack and otherwise prostrate from poisoning... to the wife "darling, I thought that som tam was all same same???..."
she smiled in evil fashion...
Tutsi , I hop you washed yer hands before taking a leak?..................
Posted 2006-03-17 05:35:44
chonabot, on 2006-03-17 02:29:02, said:
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-16 22:21:29, said:
had an excellent som tam at Jomtien beach with green mango...not much nam pla either...
I was shocked to get back to Suphan and imbibe the local som tam lady's concoction (she comes around with a side car every afternoon)...
gag, hack and otherwise prostrate from poisoning... to the wife "darling, I thought that som tam was all same same???..."
she smiled in evil fashion...
Tutsi , I hop you washed yer hands before taking a leak?..................
you vile man...aren't you supposed to wash after???
Posted 2006-03-17 08:52:07
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-17 05:21:29, said:
... to the wife "darling, I thought that som tam was all same same???..."
she smiled in evil fashion...
Terrific place in Ban Chang sells over 100 different versions of som tam from their menu... 
personal favorite is one made from som-o (pomelo)
Posted 2006-03-17 09:21:41
As far as I am aware, you can 'som tam' many things, if you are not sure, then just give it a go.
My personal favorites are, Bean (Tam Tua), Cucumber (Tam Dtairng), unripe Banana (Tam Gluay) and unripe Mango (Tam Ma Muang). We also regularly eat a fish version called... 'tam plah'
In the past I have eaten Carrot (Tam Carrot), Hua Bua (sorry don't know the english)
totster
Posted 2006-03-17 10:54:58
Chopped Cucumber and Grated carrot.
Posted 2006-03-17 11:05:08
johnh101, on 2006-03-17 10:54:58, said:
Chopped Cucumber and Grated carrot.
Exactly how many Thais in NZ make it...even in restaurants!
Posted 2006-03-17 14:26:10
Totster, on 2006-03-17 02:21:41, said:
We also regularly eat a fish version called... 'tam plah'
Cheers Tots
As for the Tam Plah, is that the one that has been blended  The Mrs has brought back to the UK, 3 big bags of the stuff and it smells disgusting.
Posted 2006-03-18 00:30:48
Just got back from the supermarket and bought some "Paw Paw"  Never heard of it before but it looks like Papaya. Anybody used it before?
Posted 2006-03-18 00:33:31
Seen it done w/coconut.
Posted 2006-03-18 00:38:11
Papaya is sooooo expensive in the UK (so is dorian - thank god  ).
I hate cucumber so thats a no no.
Green Mango is nice and quite similar. Carrot is sweeter, so not quite the same IMO.
Posted 2006-03-18 01:38:47
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-17 05:35:44, said:
chonabot, on 2006-03-17 02:29:02, said:
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-16 22:21:29, said:
had an excellent som tam at Jomtien beach with green mango...not much nam pla either...
I was shocked to get back to Suphan and imbibe the local som tam lady's concoction (she comes around with a side car every afternoon)...
gag, hack and otherwise prostrate from poisoning... to the wife "darling, I thought that som tam was all same same???..."
she smiled in evil fashion...
Tutsi , I hop you washed yer hands before taking a leak?..................
you vile man...aren't you supposed to wash after???
Methinks Chons is referring to the avoidance of Helmetburn, and possibly ensuring that his manhood does not take on the pungent aroma of said dish after handling.
I always wash before and after, and sometimes at the same time.
Posted 2006-03-18 19:33:18
A pals wife in Ireland finds turnip or swede a good alternative
Posted 2006-03-18 20:37:49
Prakanong2005, on 2006-03-18 16:33:18, said:
A pals wife in Ireland finds turnip or swede a good alternative
this is interesting as it begs the question...can you make som tam with any pulpy vegetable at hand? Accoutremonts such as tomatoes, chiles, nam pla are a matter of personal taste...further investigation is needed...
how about a parsnip som tam?
Posted 2006-03-18 20:47:37
mrbojangles, on 2006-03-18 00:30:48, said:
Just got back from the supermarket and bought some "Paw Paw"  Never heard of it before but it looks like Papaya. Anybody used it before?
Love the stuff. Eat with palma ham and a bit of lemon/lime juice.F...ing excellent!
Posted 2006-03-18 20:51:10
chuchok, on 2006-03-18 13:47:37, said:
mrbojangles, on 2006-03-18 00:30:48, said:
Just got back from the supermarket and bought some "Paw Paw"  Never heard of it before but it looks like Papaya. Anybody used it before?
Love the stuff. Eat with palma ham and a bit of lemon/lime juice.F...ing excellent!
When I lived in SA the Papaya was called Paw Paw.
However there is also a fruit called PawPAw that is unrelated to the Papaya , also known as the Ozark Banana.
Edited by chonabot, 2006-03-18 20:56:57.
Posted 2006-03-18 20:57:26
HaRoiHenry, on 2006-03-17 22:38:47, said:
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-17 05:35:44, said:
chonabot, on 2006-03-17 02:29:02, said:
tutsiwarrior, on 2006-03-16 22:21:29, said:
had an excellent som tam at Jomtien beach with green mango...not much nam pla either...
I was shocked to get back to Suphan and imbibe the local som tam lady's concoction (she comes around with a side car every afternoon)...
gag, hack and otherwise prostrate from poisoning... to the wife "darling, I thought that som tam was all same same???..."
she smiled in evil fashion...
Tutsi , I hop you washed yer hands before taking a leak?..................
you vile man...aren't you supposed to wash after???
Methinks Chons is referring to the avoidance of Helmetburn, and possibly ensuring that his manhood does not take on the pungent aroma of said dish after handling.
I always wash before and after, and sometimes at the same time.
although I may be a believer in some things I am not a flagellant and do not smear disgusting concoctions on my genitals...hence no possibility of the scenario that you suggest...
Posted 2006-03-19 09:42:23
Quote although I may be a believer in some things I am not a flagellant and do not smear disgusting concoctions on my genitals...
Not since the last time.
Posted 2006-03-19 09:51:00
mrbojangles, on 2006-03-17 14:26:10, said:
Totster, on 2006-03-17 02:21:41, said:
We also regularly eat a fish version called... 'tam plah'
Cheers Tots
As for the Tam Plah, is that the one that has been blended  The Mrs has brought back to the UK, 3 big bags of the stuff and it smells disgusting.
Nah... that sounds like "Plah Rah" (or "Plah Dairk" in Isaan). It is raw fish that has been fermented for about 1 year, with salt, rice husk, and after six months fruit is added.
Plah Rah is one of the key ingrediants used to make Som Tam (and many other meals from isaan).
"Tam Plah" is made the same way as Tam Malagor, but using fish instead of Papaya.
totster
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