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#51 David48

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Posted 2013-06-18 12:44:50

 

Why on earth would you buy them crisps?!

 

 

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Again, can we hang the OP at dawn tomorrow?   Surely he deserves it..

 

 

Sarcasm noted, but not needed.

 

The OP came to the Forum asking a question or attitude that confused him.

 

As members of the Forum, based on our relative experiences in Thailand, we have endeavoured to answer his enquiry ... for better or for worse.

 

I'll let you make the judgement which were/are the prime replies.

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#52 boosta

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Posted 2013-06-18 12:48:36

Why on earth would you buy them crisps?!

????   Because he is not a cheap cuss and maybe he's  even a tiny bit generous   ?????

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But the whole point is that isn't generous, it's such a petty and cheap "gift" to girls that are relatively high-status - or at least see themselves that way - so it becomes an insult, like the hotel manager that talks about customers that tip the bag-carriers with a 5 baht coin, much better to tip nothing at all than insult people that way.

And it's not just the amount but the way that it's done, lots of posts above explain the accepted and normal way to interact with these girls if you want to be perceived a big shot or try for a discreet outside experience (good luck).

In Thailand you have to go along with the tried and true ways things are done or you're just seen as bizarre and possibly dangerous, which is why farang are so often seen that way.

#53 Songhua

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:01:47

Beer Girls are Pretties. They don't work for the establishment - they promote a product.

Ever seen a Honda Pit Girl change a tyre?

#54 David48

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:09:14

Beer Girls are Pretties. They don't work for the establishment - they promote a product.

Ever seen a Honda Pit Girl change a tyre?

 

No ... but I'd like to ...  biggrin.png

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#55 AnotherOneAmerican

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:24:18

i have to say blether that is about as accurate description of the situation as I have read.

 
Thanks very much sir wai.gif


I hate this thread, I've had to give blether a 'like' dagnabit.

#56 joeaverage

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:27:43

 

 

i have to say blether that is about as accurate description of the situation as I have read.

 
Thanks very much sir wai.gif

 


I hate this thread, I've had to give blether a 'like' dagnabit.

 

 

i hear ya, but credit where credit is due



#57 welsh1

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:43:44

i don't get it.  why are tipping beer girls 20 baht for a moments chat, and bussing tables? 

 

There is a HISO club around the corner where I live,,,The ladys will charge you 200baht, to sit down next to you for a chat..So you can act all cool and it looks like you have your self a really hot looking woman on you arm.

 

 

Not saying I'm  tight, but I always make sure when I sit down, I always get rid of the extra chair....200 baht <deleted>,,,,,Besides  after a shit load of beer, I normally talk to my  self any way biggrin.png



#58 welsh1

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:47:45

 

no problem gave her 20 baht said thanks for chatting.

 

 

Pushing out the boat, big time!

 

Just like me, was sat in the karaoke bar one night,,where they know me quite well smile.png 

3 young girly sitting next to me,,,,Huw cow Huw cow, think they wanted me to order food in the bar, which is not cheap.

So I give one of them 50 baht, sent her down the shop to buy 3 mamma noodles wai2.gif 



#59 welsh1

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:50:07

I still don't get the crisps bit, clarification of the motivation to do that please.

Not sure,,,but they must have been Thai crisps.

 

Couldn't see the OP,, giving them a pack of Walkers, or Monster munch smile.png



#60 epicstuff

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:54:20

Why on earth would you buy them crisps?!

I suppose its slightly less ridiculous than giving them a banana



#61 boosta

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Posted 2013-06-18 13:58:14

Packet of hair clips, delivered with a deep wai.

#62 arthurwait

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:00:58

Yes we're seeing the same frustrated-spoiled-child reaction in the comments too.

News flash guys - we farang aren't the pinnacle of desirability among all the ladies of Thailand.

Those that are of the type Thais and other Asians consider gorgeous will usually not even consider being overtly friendly with us in public because the Thais watching might think they are as low as the skanky upcountry peasant girls usually associated with us.

 

And that's not even taking the sex-worker stigma into account - the beer girls already are a bit touched by that historically so many will be doubly-vigilant to ONLY be professional with farang, in fact possibly even ice-queen style forced smiles.

 

There are exceptions of course, in a context where they can be sure a given well-dressed polite (in their lights) farang is a true international executive businessman type or other assured high-status "catch", but run-of-the-mill situations the desirable girls know that 99% of the time they can do much better than the average westerner without all the social stigma.

 

Bottom line - at the high end - tall white-skinned Thai-standard beauty-queen - even the most young and attractive of us have a hard time competing with the wealthy Thais, and in many cases Japanese Korean Chinese. 

 

Never mind the usual fat old leering guy dressed for a tip-picking session.

 

 

 You maybe surprised how many farangs are married to wealthy Thai girls, yes in the same age bracket as them who aren't international businessmen.

 

 Would those farangs be interested in beer girls, promo girls ?   Well not for marriage....



#63 mikemac

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:03:00

"Well the girls were extremely pretty but so hollow in the brain."...!!!!  

 

Luckily the two girls did not know what he thought about their intellect or he would have been the one thrown in the bin.



#64 Songhua

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:04:41

 

 

no problem gave her 20 baht said thanks for chatting.

 

 

Pushing out the boat, big time!

 

Just like me, was sat in the karaoke bar one night,,where they know me quite well smile.png

3 young girly sitting next to me,,,,Huw cow Huw cow, think they wanted me to order food in the bar, which is not cheap.

So I give one of them 50 baht, sent her down the shop to buy 3 mamma noodles wai2.gif

 

Oh, come on. Only another fifty or so and they could've splurged on a hotdog and Iced Milo at 7/11.



#65 spidermike007

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:10:18

93% of communication is non-verbal.

 

You seem to have been under the mistaken impression that it was part of their job to bus the tables, while of course they would perceive that as a tremendous insult, their job is to look pretty and encourage beer sales full stop.

 

Your buying them a packet of crisps under those conditions may have been perceived also as an insult, since if they're going to be tipped it should be in cash. Your gesture could be interpreted as if they could not afford to buy their own, many of these girls do very well indeed, making more than most English teachers.

 

Plus this is very fattening food, which they can't afford to gain.

 

 

93% of communication is non-verbal.

 

You seem to have been under the mistaken impression that it was part of their job to bus the tables, while of course they would perceive that as a tremendous insult, their job is to look pretty and encourage beer sales full stop.

 

Your buying them a packet of crisps under those conditions may have been perceived also as an insult, since if they're going to be tipped it should be in cash. Your gesture could be interpreted as if they could not afford to buy their own, many of these girls do very well indeed, making more than most English teachers.

 

Plus this is very fattening food, which they can't afford to gain.

Wonderful commentary. Talk about reading between the lines. I think we must do that here, as often as possible, as things are usually not as they seem. I was thinking the same thing. Why would the fine beer girls be cleaning up after patrons. Not at all what they are there for. I think to expect these gals to be very friendly to the foreigner is asking a bit much, unless you happen to have Brad Pitt looks, which is probably not the case. Anyway, great job interpreting the situation. We can all learn from this "unspoken" language.



#66 Morakot

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:12:56

 

 

no problem gave her 20 baht said thanks for chatting.

 

 

Pushing out the boat, big time!

 

Just like me, was sat in the karaoke bar one night,,where they know me quite well smile.png

3 young girly sitting next to me,,,,Huw cow Huw cow, think they wanted me to order food in the bar, which is not cheap.

So I give one of them 50 baht, sent her down the shop to buy 3 mamma noodles wai2.gif

 

 

I usually shower my personal attendants with lobsters, caviare, and champaign! They never really appreciate it and always moan about dry-cleaning bills. huh.png



#67 Buckaroo

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:17:52

 

 

 

no problem gave her 20 baht said thanks for chatting.

 

 

Pushing out the boat, big time!

 

Just like me, was sat in the karaoke bar one night,,where they know me quite well smile.png

3 young girly sitting next to me,,,,Huw cow Huw cow, think they wanted me to order food in the bar, which is not cheap.

So I give one of them 50 baht, sent her down the shop to buy 3 mamma noodles wai2.gif

 

 

I usually shower my personal attendants with lobsters, caviare, and champaign! They never really appreciate it and always moan about dry-cleaning bills. huh.png

 

 

Do you mean they don't strip before the shower?



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:18:40

You maybe surprised how many farangs are married to wealthy Thai girls, yes in the same age bracket as them who aren't international businessmen.
 
 Would those farangs be interested in beer girls, promo girls ?   Well not for marriage....

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I'm not talking about reality, just appearances, as TiT.

And just trying to counteract the often-found view that just because you're a farang normal Thai girls should swoon at your feet as if Asia were still as undeveloped as thirty years ago.

And regarding these types of "professional beauty" girls, you may be a billionaire but if you're walking around in shorts and a singlet leering at them they won't give you the time of day no matter how many packets of crisps you throw at them.

Edited by boosta, 2013-06-18 14:21:01.


#69 arthurwait

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Posted 2013-06-18 14:28:10

 

You maybe surprised how many farangs are married to wealthy Thai girls, yes in the same age bracket as them who aren't international businessmen.
 
 Would those farangs be interested in beer girls, promo girls ?   Well not for marriage....

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I'm not talking about reality, just appearances, as TiT.

And just trying to counteract the often-found view that just because you're a farang normal Thai girls should swoon at your feet as if Asia were still as undeveloped as thirty years ago.

And regarding these types of "professional beauty" girls, you may be a billionaire but if you're walking around in shorts and a singlet leering at them they won't give you the time of day no matter how many packets of crisps you throw at them.

 

 

 Agreed. thumbsup.gif



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:35:40

I would agree with Moe666. The beer girls (any beer brand) are not waitresses. In fact I'm not sure just what purpose they are for. I haven't seen them offer any special "deals" when they are around. All of them are reasonably nice looking girls but I've never seen one that was a stunner. And, I think us women are more discerning than men when it comes to looks.

With the very odd exception, I have not seen any grossly overweight tattooed Farang women in Thailand, and certainly none with facial hair.



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:39:19

"So anyway. How far was the gap between the bra padding and her actual knockers ?"

 

Bra padding ? Do you mean those things are not actually that big ?



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:42:15

 

I would agree with Moe666. The beer girls (any beer brand) are not waitresses. In fact I'm not sure just what purpose they are for. I haven't seen them offer any special "deals" when they are around. All of them are reasonably nice looking girls but I've never seen one that was a stunner. And, I think us women are more discerning than men when it comes to looks.

With the very odd exception, I have not seen any grossly overweight tattooed Farang women in Thailand, and certainly none with facial hair.

 

 

 I have.



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:42:43

"So anyway. How far was the gap between the bra padding and her actual knockers ?"

 

Bra padding ? Do you mean those things are not actually that big ?

 

 

 Well those bras are that big. wink.png



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:46:05

blether on form today. Finally found his area of specialist expertise, the beer girl industry.



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Posted 2013-06-18 14:46:30

93% of communication is non-verbal.

 

You seem to have been under the mistaken impression that it was part of their job to bus the tables, while of course they would perceive that as a tremendous insult, their job is to look pretty and encourage beer sales full stop.

 

Your buying them a packet of crisps under those conditions may have been perceived also as an insult, since if they're going to be tipped it should be in cash. Your gesture could be interpreted as if they could not afford to buy their own, many of these girls do very well indeed, making more than most English teachers.

 

Plus this is very fattening food, which they can't afford to gain.

You'd call making more than most English teachers doing very well,would you?blink.png







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