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[anuaaron]

britmaveric, on 2006-04-04 21:11:25, said:

English Noodles, on 2006-04-04 21:08:15, said:

Also worth taking notice of is the fact that if after there has been a full enquiry in to the allegations made against him and he is cleared of any wrong doing. HE WILL BE BACK.

And I'd wager that PM will be cleared and he will be back.  

Possibly, but considering his wealth and time spent in the public eye I wonder if he would want to come back.

[konangrit]

So where are the results? They were unofficially being constantly updated after the election, then nothing for well over 24 hours, although Thaksin seemed to know the final results by then already. Yet still no Official results from the EC, and now not even recent unofficial ones from the media. Something very suspicous going on here.

[Plus]

When Korn was talking with BBC he said that since it's believed that Thaksin entered politics to expand and protect his business empire, and that he achieved his goals, there's no reason for him to come back.

[lung]

only for the STATS...


bak THAKSIN >>
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APPOINTED   March 11, 2005
BIRTH DATE/PLACE July 26,1949 / Chiangmai Province
RELIGION Buddhism
MARITAL STATUS Married with Khunying Potjaman Shinawatra (Damapong)
# EDUCATION BACKGROUND 1973 - Graduated from the Police Cadet Academy in Thailand
# 1975 - Master Degree in Criminal Justice, Eastern Kentucky University, U.S.A.
# 1978 - Doctorate Degree in Criminal Justice, Sam Houston State University, U.S.A.
# EXPERIENCES 1973-1987 - Joined the Royal Thai Police Department and was promoted to Police Lieutenant Colonel in 1987. Last position was Deputy Superintendent of the Policy and Planning Sub-division, General Staff Division, Metropolitan Police Bureau
# 1987-1994
    - Started Shinawatra Computer and Communications Group
    - Chairman of Shinawatra Computer and Communications Group
# POLITICAL APPOINTMENT Novermber 2,1994 - February 10, 1995 - Minister of Foreign Affiairs
# May 28, 1995 to November 18, 1996 - Leader of the Palang Dharma Party
# July 20, 1995 to August 14,1996 - Deputy Prime Minister (in charge of traffic and transportation in Bangkok)
# August 15,1997 to November 14, 1997 - Deputy Prime Minister
# July 14,1998 - present - Established the Thai Rak Thai Party and Leader of Thai Rak Thai Party
# January 6,1998 to February 9, 2001 - Member of the Parliament (Party List)
# February 9,2001 - The 23rd Prime Minister of Thailand
# March 11, 2005 - The 24rd Prime Minister of Thailand
# SOCIAL ROLES 20 September 1993
    - Found the THAICOM Foundation, (initiating the satellite education program for young children in remote areas unable to continue their education at the secondary school level)
    - Vice Chairman of the THAICOM Foundation
# 1994 - present - Chairman of the Advisory Committee of Pre-Cadet Class 10 & Police Cadet Class 26
# September 12,1998 - President of the Northerners' Association of Thailand
# February 9, 1999 - Honorary Chairman of the Northern Thai Association of Washington, D.C., U.S.A
# June 28, 1999 - Honorary Advisor of the Thai Northerners Association of Illinois, U.S.A.
# AWARDS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS 1992 - Awarded the "1992 ASEAN Businessman of the Year" from the ASEAN Institute, Indonesia
# 1992 - Awarded the "Kiattiyod Jakdao" in Economical Development from the Committee of the Armed forces Preparatory School Foundation
# 1994
    - The "1993 Outstanding Telecom Man of the year Award"
    - Honored as 1 of 12 Leading Asian Businessmen by the Singapore Business Times
    - One of the finalists of the Asian CEO of the year selected by the Financial World
    - Invited as the first Thai and third fellow to attend the "Lee Kuan Yew Exchange Fellowship" program
# 1996
    - Received the "Outstanding Criminal Justice Alumnus Award" from the Criminal Justice Center, Sam Houston State University
    - Honored the "Distinguished Alumni Award" from Sam Houston State University
# 1997 - Received the Honorary Award as the Outstanding Politician (who has contributed significantly to the society) from the Mass Media Photographer Association of Thailand (MPA)
# March 29 to April 4, 1998 - Attended the Special Visitor Program as Special Guest of the Australian Government
# November 8 to November 11, 1999 - Special Guest of the Chinese People's Institute Foreign Affairs, the People's Republic of China
# ROYAL DECORATIONS 2002 - Knight Commander (Second Class, lower grade) of the Most Illustrious Order of Chula Chom Klao
# 2002 - The Most Blessed Order Of Setia Negara Brunei (P.S.N.B.)
# 2001 - Knight Grand Cross (First Class) of the Most Admirable Order of the Direkgunabhorn
# 1996 - Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant
# 1995 - Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand

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Edited by lung, 2006-04-04 22:44:53.

[breconman]

sushiman, on 2006-04-04 20:59:24, said:

Who cares a view months...

PARTY GUYS ole ole ole
Suhibidubi

finally corruption has received it's fist in the face...

Hope this bastard will be punished soon, for his dictorael, short-minded monologue styled rulership
Great news...suhibidubi ...jabadabaduuuuuu

I wonder what the final trigger was?


doesn't matter as long he will be gone for sure for ever!

Party !!!!!!

please temper your comments and be polite,  to bad mouth another person is not the Thai way please make your comments in a dignified manner and show respect for others regardless of thier political or morel beliefs.

my name is Breconman.

[lopburi3]

PAD leadership is currently live on ITV (of all places).

[bulmercke]

According to Channel 11 this evening the ball is now in the PAD court

- some factions are still calling for a royally appointed PM

- others want nothing less than the removal of Thai Rak Thai

- many more won't accept Thaksin remaining as an MP

The protests may very well continue.

I think they're goin' to demand he leaves politics totally - and doesn't just step aside - although I personally believe he will quit of his own accord soon.

Felt depressed this morning when I woke - because of the stalemate - but feel much better now and having a celebratory drink.      

Edited by bulmercke, 2006-04-04 22:52:58.

[britmaveric]

bulmercke, on 2006-04-04 22:51:13, said:

According to Channel 11 this evening the ball is now in the PAD court

- some factions are still calling for a royally appointed PM

- others want nothing less than the removal of Thai Rak Thai

- many more won't accept Thaksin remaining as an MP

The protests may very well continue.

I think they're goin' to demand he leaves politics totally - and doesn't just step aside - although I personally believe he will quit of his own desire soon.

Felt depressed this morning when I woke - because of the stalemate - but feel much better now and having a celebratory drink.      

PAD's making an arse out of itself.  

[thebear]

Orion76, on 2006-04-04 21:55:31, said:

Thaksin says he will remain a member of parliament and the TRT party leader, so if another TRT member becomes the next PM then technically Thaksin will be the next PM's leader. The vote count makes it quite clear that TRT will easily win any 4 party race so Thaksin haters shouldn't cheer too early.

Seen it all before he's not gone! 'Technically' is the operative word, he will just be like some of the other former PM's who take on advisory positions but in fact pull the strings from behind the scenes Such is the Thai Kriengjai, face saving respect system.

[hammered]

It is over. Thaksin is gone or will be soon.

[Plus]

I don't think he will be in position to keep TRT on a short leash, especially when selecting the Cabinet. The way he ran things people didn't know about their positions until they saw it in the news. He obviously will not be able to continue like that.  They'll just ask him for blessings, that's all.

I also heard the Sudarat decided to take a break, too, but then Thaksin came on TV and I forgot about her.

Anyone heard anything about Sudarat?

[britmaveric]

hammered, on 2006-04-04 22:59:34, said:

It is over. Thaksin is gone or will be soon.

[george]

*****PM to step aside for national reconciliation*****

BANGKOK: --  Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra officially announced Tuesday evening that he would step down for the sake of national reconciliation.

Appearing on TV pool, Mr. Thaksin announced that he would not accept the premiership despite his Thai Rak Thai (TRT) Party won the majority vote of around 16 million in the April 2 general election.

"I won't accept the premiership in a selection process when the House of Representatives convenes its first session after the general election," he declared.

Mr. Thaksin said he decided to step down from power to end the country's political standoff and restore national peaceful order and unity to pay tribute to His Majesty the King on the auspicious occasion of the 60th anniversary of the beloved monarch's ascension to the throne this year.

The caretaker premier said, however, that he would be in office until a new prime minister from his TRT Party is elected in the House, and that he would continue to be the leader of the TRT Party and a member of the House of Representatives.

Mr. Thaksin apologized the 16 million eligible voters who support him and his TRT Party, saying he had to give priority to the national interest.

"As an MP, I will still visit people in various areas and the TRT-led government will continue to implement policies earlier prominsed to the voters, namely the war on drugs, the Bt30 per hospital visit, the poverty eradication and mega development projects," he pledged.

Mr. Thaksin said Monday evening in a live TV talk show, Krong Sathanakarn, on government-run TV Channel 11 that he would be open to every channel which could help end the current political standoff--even stepping down with a leader from his TRT Party being assigned to, instead, take the premiership until the second-round political reform taken part by all parties concerned is completed over the next 15 months and a new general election is held.

This proposal is on conditions that the former three main opposition parties, including the Democrat, the Chart Thai and the Mahachon Parties, end their boycott and run in next general elections, and that an anti-government movement led by the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) end their two-month rallies.

Both the former oppostion bloc and the PAD have accepted the caretaker premier's proposal.

Mr. Thaksin officially announced his decision after seeking an audience with His Majesty the King at Klaikangvol Palace in the upper southern province of Prachuap Khiri Khan Tuesday afternoon.

--TNA 2006-04-04

[hammered]

Plus, on 2006-04-04 23:01:18, said:

I don't think he will be in position to keep TRT on a short leash, especially when selecting the Cabinet. The way he ran things people didn't know about their positions until they saw it in the news. He obviously will not be able to continue like that.  They'll just ask him for blessings, that's all.

I also heard the Sudarat decided to take a break, too, but then Thaksin came on TV and I forgot about her.

Anyone heard anything about Sudarat?

I heard the rumors about her and her leader which shouldnt be repeated I guess

[English Noodles]

thebear, on 2006-04-04 22:54:20, said:

Orion76, on 2006-04-04 21:55:31, said:

Thaksin says he will remain a member of parliament and the TRT party leader, so if another TRT member becomes the next PM then technically Thaksin will be the next PM's leader. The vote count makes it quite clear that TRT will easily win any 4 party race so Thaksin haters shouldn't cheer too early.

Seen it all before he's not gone! 'Technically' is the operative word, he will just be like some of the other former PM's who take on advisory positions but in fact pull the strings from behind the scenes Such is the Thai Kriengjai, face saving respect system.

Greng jai has nothing to do with saving face.

[warriors]

Maybe the PAD will keep the pressure on seeing the 60th party time is getting ever so closer. The PAD know the Thai people want to show the world how united all Thai people are:whistling:

PAD still have this Ace in there hand and will show it when needed to get Taxin out of Government for good.

[Hermano Lobo]

My first thought was impeach the bugger !

Often when things get complicated it is better to
restart with a fresh sheet of paper.

The best thing would be another election with the
Democrats, PAD & TRT all taking part. Quickly too,
there needs to be a properly elected Government before
His Royal Highness's celebrations of 60 years in office.

Edited by Hermano Lobo, 2006-04-04 23:12:23.

[Plus]

Why did Thaksin rush to Hua Hin? He FLEW there and back.

What forced him to change his mind in such a haste?

Rumors about his imminent resignation spread in the afternoon.

[bulmercke]

skippybangkok, on 2006-04-04 22:21:15, said:

on CNN and BBC...so I guess there must be credit to the report.

CNN (23.00 Thai time) had the Thaksin story as they're fourth.

Main news item: Saddam trial

Second: Bomb explosion in Sadri - Iraq - 10 killed - 25 injured

Third: Continuing French protests

Fourth: Thaksin

Report from Bangkok, but very brief and superficial - however the anchors described it as a sudden - shock development although they themselves were likewise just as ill informed.

The BBC have shown themselves to be much more clued into what is really goin' on over here.

I guess, most Americans don't care too much about South-East Asian politics.

[amarka]

hi..

it appears to me that Thaksin can do no right...

stay and he's wrong

resign and he's wrong....

seems like the same old ex pats just cant get it....

its nothing to do with you! this is a Thai issue and like it or not your votes will not be counted!

amarka  

[Inflammatory statement deleted. Please keep the debate civil. All opinions are worthy of consideration, if they are well thought out and presented. /Meadish]

[thebear]

[quote name='thebear' post='705134' date='2006-04-04 22:54:20']
other former PM's who take on advisory positions but in fact pull the strings from behind the scenes Such is the Thai Kriengjai, face saving respect system.
[/quote]

Greng jai has nothing to do with saving face.
[/quote]
Been here long enough to know that. Apologies for the grammatical error. Please read "Such is the Thai Kriengjai, and face saving, respect system" but the tranlated spelling is correct

[Plus]

Quote

its nothing to do with you! this is a Thai issue and like it or not your votes will not be counted!

We are quite ok with sharing opinions between each other even if we don't vote,


and they somehow had an infuence on you!

[cobra]

um, well this was unexpected,  

[bulmercke]

[In-depth speculation deleted. My apologies, but this type of speculation is not allowed. Please leave the HM speculations out of the discussion. Thank you for understanding. /Meadish]

The facts speak for themselves.

A great day for democracy.

Foot note: As I mentioned on an earlier post - yesterday Thaksin was belligerent and defiant and questioned boldly why he should, indeed, have to step down. He was saying he would definitely be the new democratically elected PM. This was his stance.

How could he change his mind in such a short time, just a few hours?

This will probably be one of the great mysteries of Thai political history.

Also, perhaps it is presumptious of me to speculate on this matter - but I think it's worthy of consideration and discussion  - just as other posters have been speculating on the implications and ramifications of Thaksin remaining in TRT as a member of parliament.

Edited by meadish_sweetball, 2006-04-05 12:26:57.

[thebear]

[quote name='thebear' post='705134' date='2006-04-04 22:54:20']
other former PM's who take on advisory positions but in fact pull the strings from behind the scenes Such is the Thai Kriengjai, face saving respect system.
[/quote]

Greng jai has nothing to do with saving face.
[/quote]
Been here long enough to know that. Apologies for the grammatical error. Please read "Such is the Thai Kriengjai, and face saving, respect system" but the tranlated spelling is correct