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Myanmar Opening 3 Overland Routes to Foreigners in August


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#1 SeaVisionBurma

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Posted 2013-07-31 09:06:17

Several news articles have now reported the opening of 3 major foreign border crossings to allow overland travel to foreigners commencing some time in August.

 

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Photo:  Mae Sai (via DVB article below)

 

This will end decades of restrictions which effectively meant that foreigners could not enter Myanmar through one land border and then exit by any other border point.

 

The 3 initial border points, all with Thailand, are:

 

Shan State via Tachilek

Karen State via Myawaddy

Tanintharyi Division via Kawthoung

 

http://www.mizzima.c...pen-to-tourists

 

http://www.dvb.no/ne...ember_261817101

 

http://www.shanghaid...a.asp?id=156266

 

More information to follow - please post confirmed dates with a credible link if you can expand on the above.

 

 

 

 



#2 craigt3365

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Posted 2013-07-31 09:18:55

Great stuff!  Can't wait to try one.



#3 SeaVisionBurma

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:03:49

No firm dates yet, will see what I can dig up - however this does confirm my earlier report about this several months ago relating to overland travel from Kawthoung (ie entering from Ranong in Thailand, then travelling overland without special permits to Yangon or other areas)

 

This opens up some excellent opportunities for travel inside Myanmar without having to backtrack to Yangon or Mandalay to fly out.



#4 frimu

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:09:24

If that is true I'm looking forward to make a trip of Southern Myanmar soon. :-)

Good for me and their tourism.



#5 hansnl

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:10:37

You might say that Myanmar is opening the attack on Thai tourism.



#6 Salapoo

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:25:39

That's good. But let's see where they are.

 

Kawthoung: Off Ranong in Thailand. Google Map

 

Tachilek: Off just about the most Northerly Point in Thailand. Google Map

 

Myawaddy: Next to Mae Sot in Tak. Google Map

 

You could always do a stamp in and out in Mae Sot anyway.

 

 

So good news, but not great. Get one open within 3-4 hours driving from BKK and they'd make a mint with border runners.


Edited by Salapoo, 2013-07-31 11:35:20.


#7 artvarkk

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:33:47

I'm going to a town called Ye in mid-August. Not confirmed if foreigners are permitted to travel by land from Yangon-Moulmein-Ye and south to Dawei. Can fly to Dawei from Yangon, then travel by land north to Ye, but the last time I checked, there is a 'black zone' between Moulmein and Ye. Does anyone know if the restriction has been lifted?



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Posted 2013-07-31 11:34:52

I'm going to a town called Ye in mid-August. Not confirmed if foreigners are permitted to travel by land from Yangon-Moulmein-Ye and south to Dawei. Can fly to Dawei from Yangon, then travel by land north to Ye, but the last time I checked, there is a 'black zone' between Moulmein and Ye. Does anyone know if the restriction has been lifted?



#9 SeaVisionBurma

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:36:52

That's good. But let's see where they are.

 

Kawthoung: Off Ranong in Thailand. Google Map

 

Tachilek: Off just about the most Northerly Point in Thailand. Google Map

 

Myawaddy: Next to Mae Sot in Tak. Google Map

 

You could always do a stamp in and out in Mae Sot anyway.

 

 

So good news, but not great. Get one open within 3-4 hours driving from BKK and they'd make a mint with border runners.

 

This isn't about border runs - it is about being able to travel overland within Myanmar once you cross the border - something that has been near impossible to do for some decades.

The border points mentioned have always been available for a quick in-out border run.



#10 0zz1

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:40:42

fantastic news... i wonder if I can take Thai registered motorbike over from Tachilek and drive down to Kawthoung ?



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Posted 2013-07-31 11:42:16

Somewhat related...

 

There was an article on the Eleven Media website which I read yesterday about the number of tourists arriving in Myanmar. Thai's topped that list. That may have something to do with it.

 

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Thai visitors on top of Yangon's foreign arrivals
 

Thais are on top of the list of foreign visitors received by the Yangon International Airport from January to mid-July, according to official figures from the Ministry of Hotels and Tourism.

Over 366,000 visitors entered through the country's main gateway over the past seven months and the majority of them were from Asia, which accounted for more than 235,000 tourists. It was a considerable increased compared to the same period last year saw 165,000.

Among the Asian tourists, over 52,000 visitors were from Thailand, followed by Japan with over 33,000 visitors and China with 24,000 visitors.

Chinese tourists ranked fourth place this year, a drop from third place on the same period last year.

The airport has also received over 76,000 visitors from Western Europe, nearly 31,000 from North America, over 13,000 from Oceania, over 5,000 from Eastern Europe, over 2,000 from other Americas, over 1,600 from the Middle East, and over 1,500 from Africa.

The airport receives an average of over 1,800 visitors daily, compared to only 1,300 visitors last year.

In 2006, Myanmar saw a surge in tourist arrivals, but the tourism industry suffered three consecutive years of decline afterwards, following the Saffron Revolution and the Cyclone Nargis.

The tourism industry started to recover in 2010 due to political changes in the country and tourists became more interested in Myanmar due to news coverage by foreign media.

Tourists' interest in Myanmar continues to increase after 2011 and the country reached its goal of receiving over 1 million visitors last year.

http://elevenmyanmar...oreign-arrivals


Edited by DagonKhan, 2013-07-31 11:45:48.


#12 SeaVisionBurma

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:43:30

fantastic news... i wonder if I can take Thai registered motorbike over from Tachilek and drive down to Kawthoung ?

 

A very good question Ozz1 - something I am just in the middle of discussing.

Will post back if I find out something - would welcome any info from other members about this.



#13 belg

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:44:04

myanmar has beaches, they only need hotels

 

and guess what... foreingers will built them and guess who ... THAIS and guess what... they will earn their business for 100% and guess what, 100% of the profits will flee out of the country

 

 

a bit like thais are accusing farangs to do here... except their will own their own business and profits



#14 Salapoo

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:51:45

 

This isn't about border runs - it is about being able to travel overland within Myanmar once you cross the border - something that has been near impossible to do for some decades.

The border points mentioned have always been available for a quick in-out border run.

 

 

They have. And every border crossing will be related to border runs. How many from Phuket go to Kawthoung, and how many from Chiang Mai go to Mae Sot or Mae Sai. Literally bus loads.

 

For there not to be a border crossing within a viable distance from Bangkok is a crying shame. The sooner they open either Singkhorn or a crossing in Kanchanaburi to foreigners the better for everyone.

 

 

On another note, those who do border runs at the said crossings, I wonder if they will still be doing cheap $10 one day stamps or if they will have to buy a full visa.


Edited by Salapoo, 2013-07-31 11:53:37.


#15 SeaVisionBurma

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:56:28

On another note, those who do border runs at the said crossings, I wonder if they will still be doing cheap $10 one day stamps or if they will have to buy a full visa.


AFAIK there will be no change to the cheapie $10 entries, also pretty sure I saw that mentioned in one the articles this morning.

In terms of the overland travel though - for the time being people will still need to have an embassy issued visa already in their passport. A border entry visa won't allow travel overland.

This is set to change in the coming year. My sources tell me that by early 2014 they are planning to issue visas at the borders. Nothing concrete at this stage though, so stay tuned.

#16 squarethecircle

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Posted 2013-07-31 11:57:44

Cool, I have been wanting to go from Tachileik via Kengtung over to Taunggyi then into the middle of the country. Current set-up only allows us farangis to go to Kengtung (and Mong La on the Chinese border) with a gov't-approved guide. I look forward to updates on this.



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Posted 2013-07-31 12:07:20

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#18 jobsworth

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Posted 2013-07-31 12:12:31

The interesting journey would be from Thailand to India overland.

Although Burma is opening up there is still trouble with the Naxalites

in India near the Burmese border.

The Burmese will not allow foreigners anywhere near the Indian border.

Anybody have any further information about this?

 



#19 CIHUAHUA

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Posted 2013-07-31 12:23:39

I hope they continue to open up because I would like to travel to India via Burma.



#20 imaderbyfan

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Posted 2013-07-31 12:55:15

That's good. But let's see where they are.
 
Kawthoung: Off Ranong in Thailand. Google Map
 
Tachilek: Off just about the most Northerly Point in Thailand. Google Map
 
Myawaddy: Next to Mae Sot in Tak. Google Map
 
You could always do a stamp in and out in Mae Sot anyway.
 
 
So good news, but not great. Get one open within 3-4 hours driving from BKK and they'd make a mint with border runners.


Yes i agree I would have thought that the newly opened border in Kanchanaburi would have been on the list....though I suspect that the infastructure on the Burma side is not yet ready

#21 richard10365

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Posted 2013-07-31 12:57:47

The bad news is, from what I have heard, tourism in Myanmar offers 1 star service at 5 star prices.



#22 JulesMad

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Posted 2013-07-31 13:43:47

 

fantastic news... i wonder if I can take Thai registered motorbike over from Tachilek and drive down to Kawthoung ?

 

A very good question Ozz1 - something I am just in the middle of discussing.

Will post back if I find out something - would welcome any info from other members about this.

 

Would be absolutely great if we can take the bike into Burma!!! I am looking forward to more news on this thumbsup.gif



#23 Mangkhut

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Posted 2013-07-31 13:44:34

The interesting journey would be from Thailand to India overland.

Although Burma is opening up there is still trouble with the Naxalites

in India near the Burmese border.

The Burmese will not allow foreigners anywhere near the Indian border.

Anybody have any further information about this?

 

Your absolutely right here. Its great that Myanmar are about to open up and border crossings will be allowed with own vehicle. The ultimate thing would however be if they allowed foreigners to travel through the whole country with their own vehicles - as in/out from the Indian state of Assam/Nagaland (or what is it?) and then in/out of Thailand somewhere. Many overlanders will drewle upon this possibility....whistling.gif

 

But I guess one should take one stap at a time and be happy with that.....smile.png


Edited by Mangkhut, 2013-07-31 13:45:35.


#24 yeeowww

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Posted 2013-07-31 13:49:40

That's good. But let's see where they are.

 

Kawthoung: Off Ranong in Thailand. Google Map

 

Tachilek: Off just about the most Northerly Point in Thailand. Google Map

 

Myawaddy: Next to Mae Sot in Tak. Google Map

 

You could always do a stamp in and out in Mae Sot anyway.

 

 

So good news, but not great. Get one open within 3-4 hours driving from BKK and they'd make a mint with border runners.

 

Hah! With news like this, my trip will most likely be "One Way"...



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Posted 2013-07-31 14:30:56

When we crossed over up at Mai Sai some years ago talking to the people in the market the feeling I was given that the people of the country wished it to be called Burma as that is "their" name and that Myanmar is the name that represents the governmental control which no one liked.

 

I felt is was like a Thailand 40 years ago and through distorting glasses.

 

I liked the place and the people, just a pity all the left hand drive cars drive on the right!







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