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Myanmar navy shoots, seizes Thai trawler

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Myanmar navy shoots, seizes Thai trawler
By English News

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BANGKOK, Sept 21 -- Myanmar navy has fired upon and seized a Thai trawler that was fishing at Khom island in Ranong, according to the Thai-Myanmar Border Fishery Coordination Centre.

A staff of centre said that a fishing boat named "Tor Taweesin 3" with a crew of ten and one captain was fishing at Khom island, two nautical miles from Ranong's Chang island and was shot at by a Myanmar navy ship.

The ship's crew jumped into the sea as the trawler was seized by Myanmar authorities.

The area was considered an overlapping controversial zone between Thailand and Myanmar.

The Centre has coordinate with the Royal Thai Navy and fellow trawlers to help crew members. However they could not find the boat's captain, identified as Kayoo Suksawat.

The fishing boat was reportedly under control of the Myanmar navy at Kaw Thaung or Ko Song. The Thai authorities were coordinating with their Myanmar counterparts for the return of the ship.

Ranong Fishery Association chairman Surin Losong, who is also the owner of the trawler, said he was confident that his boat was not fishing in Myanmar territory.

Meanwhile, Wipan Chamachote, a spokesman for the Royal Thai Navy said that there was no one injured or killed from the incident.

He said the captain was safe, as he stayed on-board while the ship was seized.

Capt Wipan said the 3rd Naval Area Command has lodged a protest to Myanmar for the incident and the Thai-Myanmar General Border Committee (GBC) officials were holding talks.

He said the situation was not tense as Thailand and Myanmar enjoyed good relations. It was believed that both sides could find a common solution. (MCOT online news)

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-- TNA 2013-09-21

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I fancy the captain will be looking for a new crew a.s.a.p. whistling.gif

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hope Captain Kayoo Suksawat is alright. is all this proper maritime protocol? the credence of ASEAN is so frail at a time when united strength is needed more than ever.

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ID: 5   Posted · Hidden by metisdead, September 21, 2013 - off topic

The fascinating part is that absolutely nothing has really changed in Burma. Nothing. Sure they released a few prisoners. The rest us pure PR so the Chinese mining companies can get equipment that is not subject to sanctions. That is the equation pure and simple. I get this info from Burmese friends and expats who work there. The pig generals are still earning billions pushing herein and gemstones. Nothing has changed. Washington agreed to let the Chinese pull off this scam.

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ID: 9   Posted · Hidden by metisdead, September 21, 2013 - SRJ/Buchholz again

come on guys, we all know that thai fishing boats fish where ever they want, just look at them all doing so in protected waters. This is just another example of a thai captain that thinks he can fish where ever he wants to and does not respect anyone elses borders, hopefully they will do something to the boat/captain so it doesnt keep happening, these people need to learn there are rules that need to be followed.

Frothy bashing, but speaking of rules; kindly inform yourself:

The article says:

a fishing boat was fishing at Khom island, two nautical miles from Ranong's Chang island and was shot at by a Myanmar navy ship

Whereas the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea says:

A state's territorial sea extends up to 12 nautical miles from its baseline.

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ID: 11   Posted · Hidden by metisdead, September 21, 2013 - SRJ/Buchholz again

Frothy bashing, but speaking of rules; kindly inform yourself:

The article says:

a fishing boat was fishing at Khom island, two nautical miles from Ranong's Chang island and was shot at by a Myanmar navy ship

Whereas the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea says:

A state's territorial sea extends up to 12 nautical miles from its baseline

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Hey Poindexter, might get yourself a map and check out the border in that region. Then report back to us on what happens when the border of countries do not have 12 nautical miles ... but say 2, miles that seperate countries

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ID: 12   Posted · Hidden by metisdead, September 21, 2013 - SRJ/Buchholz again

Frothy bashing, but speaking of rules; kindly inform yourself:

The article says:

a fishing boat was fishing at Khom island, two nautical miles from Ranong's Chang island and was shot at by a Myanmar navy ship

Whereas the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea says:

A state's territorial sea extends up to 12 nautical miles from its baseline

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Hey Poindexter, might get yourself a map and check out the border in that region. Then report back to us on what happens when the border of countries do not have 12 nautical miles ... but say 2, miles that seperate countries

Hey LooseSack, check the map yourself. It's not 2 miles. wink.png

Additionally, no where in the Convention does it mention it is acceptable to fire on a fishing boat. wink.png

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Wow a little trigger happy navy? No warnings? Just fire upon site? Shoot first ask later. Like the wild wild west

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I fancy the captain will be looking for a new crew a.s.a.p. whistling.gif

I wonder how many of his crew were Burmese? Cheap slave labour.

The Other paper said the Myanmar crew were told to jump ship by the Captain. The crew may have been a contributing factor in this debacle.

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come on guys, we all know that thai fishing boats fish where ever they want, just look at them all doing so in protected waters. This is just another example of a thai captain that thinks he can fish where ever he wants to and does not respect anyone elses borders, hopefully they will do something to the boat/captain so it doesnt keep happening, these people need to learn there are rules that need to be followed.

Frothy bashing, but speaking of rules; kindly inform yourself:

The article says:

a fishing boat was fishing at Khom island, two nautical miles from Ranong's Chang island and was shot at by a Myanmar navy ship

Whereas the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea says:

A state's territorial sea extends up to 12 nautical miles from its baseline.

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Well wherever the boat was actually seized, the Myanmar navy was patrolling unchallenged. One would think the Thai government would not tolerate a Myanmar naval vessel firing upon and seizing a Thai flagged vessel in Thai waters.

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Will we hear from the PM / Defence Minister on this incident or will she be too busy with more important matters ?

What a stupid question and rhetorical of course.

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ID: 17   Posted · Hidden by metisdead, September 22, 2013 - obviously did not read the OP

Bet most of the crew were Burmese and Thai Capt did a runner. whistling.gif

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ID: 18   Posted · Hidden by Scott, September 22, 2013 - Banned member

with the players involved and outcomes it look like some sort of political stunt.

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Wow a little trigger happy navy? No warnings? Just fire upon site? Shoot first ask later. Like the wild wild west

Where does it say that ?

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I hope the poor buggers can swim.

2 nautical miles, around 4 kms, in the monsoon period and around moon so strong currents to deal with as well, is not an easy prospect.

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The Thai Navy should shoot at and seize a few Thai trawlers within their own waters too, they operate inside national parks and protected areas with (paid for) impunity.

Yeah. a sure and proven recipe for peace. Give diplomacy a chance first.

Do you think that the Thai Navy could hit anything if it opened fire?

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come on guys, we all know that thai fishing boats fish where ever they want, just look at them all doing so in protected waters. This is just another example of a thai captain that thinks he can fish where ever he wants to and does not respect anyone elses borders, hopefully they will do something to the boat/captain so it doesnt keep happening, these people need to learn there are rules that need to be followed.

Frothy bashing, but speaking of rules; kindly inform yourself:

The article says:

a fishing boat was fishing at Khom island, two nautical miles from Ranong's Chang island and was shot at by a Myanmar navy ship

Whereas the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea says:

A state's territorial sea extends up to 12 nautical miles from its baseline.

wink.png

Well wherever the boat was actually seized, the Myanmar navy was patrolling unchallenged. One would think the Thai government would not tolerate a Myanmar naval vessel firing upon and seizing a Thai flagged vessel in Thai waters.

Yes, one would think. But, there are always so many considerations with something like this. In this case, Thailand procures alot of it's natural gas from Burma. So, they would be quite hesitant to rock that boat. Imagine how the Thai people would react to a natural gas shortage. No taxis on the streets? No buses operating. You get the picture. So, much butt kissing of the Burmese pigs (the generals) continues, in order to not upset anything. Yes, this incident is bizarre and extreme. And my guess is that the Burmese boat captain has already been quietly executed, behind the scenes. As I said in the previous post, nothing has really changed in Burma. Do not believe the hype, which is entirely about benefitting the Chinese investors.

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