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#1 Lite Beer

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Posted 2013-11-01 20:26:53

New gun, security guard laws aim to improve tourist safety
Phuket Gazette - 

 

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Even those with permits to carry guns in public may no longer do so in tourist areas, said Lt Col Akanit. Photo: Chutharat Plerin

PHUKET: Gun owners with permission to carry their weapons in public may no longer do so in tourist areas, it was announced on Tuesday.

The order issued by the Royal Thai Police applies nationwide and is part of an ongoing effort to improve tourist safety.

Carrying guns in tourist areas or in areas where crowds gather is no longer allowed, Patong Police Deputy Superintendent Akanit Danpitaksat said, adding that plain clothes officers would be looking for firearms carried in public.

The penalty for breaking the new law is a fine of up to 10,000 baht, five years in prison or both.

“The only exception to the law will be cases where the gun owner can prove that he had a good reason for carrying the gun,” Lt Col Akanit explained.

“If someone has to carry a lot of money or is being threatened by someone, than carrying a gun may be permissible,” Col Akanit said.

It was also announced that entertainment venue security staff who face problems with customers must contact the police to solve the problem instead of dealing with it on their own.

“Tourists in Phuket have complained many times about being threatened or attacked by bodyguards or security personnel at entertainment venues,” Col Akanit said.

“They must not attack tourists,” he warned.

“If we receive a report of a guard attacking a tourist, we will charge him for assault, which carries a fine of up to 4,000 baht, two years in prison or both,” he said.

The prohibition against attacking tourists mirrored an announcement yesterday by Deputy President of the Phuket Jet-Ski Club Nucha Petchvimol, who said, “Operators are now under strict rules to just call the police [if conflicts arise], rather than trying to handle the situation themselves

 

Source: http://www.phuketgaz...fety-22688.html

 


-- Phuket Gazette 2013-11-01



#2 Tycoon

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Posted 2013-11-01 20:38:26

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“The only exception to the law will be cases where the gun owner can prove that he had a good reason for carrying the gun,” Lt Col Akanit explained.

“If someone has to carry a lot of money or is being threatened by someone, than carrying a gun may be permissible,” Col Akanit said.

 

 

There my friends is the get out of jail card.

 

Q Why did you have your gun? 

 

A Because I wanted to kill a rival who looked sideways at me.

 

Carry on, nothing to see here

 



#3 kblaze

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Posted 2013-11-01 20:55:11

see the title and i was like, "ok be positive...this HAS to be a good thing"...and then as the post before me makes clear...the giant loophole worm climbs out of the empty promise



#4 Thai at Heart

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Posted 2013-11-01 20:59:39

I feel safer already.

Is this thing to stop bad guys carrying guns?

#5 clockman

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Posted 2013-11-01 21:17:57

Thailand, third in the world, for hand gun murders! and remember these are children with attitude.



#6 NeverSure

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Posted 2013-11-01 22:07:17

Yes, the criminals will be sure to take note of this new restriction.



#7 stoli

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Posted 2013-11-02 07:43:24

“The only exception to the law will be cases where the gun owner can prove that he had a good reason for carrying the gun,” Lt Col Akanit explained.

“If someone has to carry a lot of money or is being threatened by someone, than carrying a gun may be permissible,” Col Akanit said.

 

 

There my friends is the get out of jail card.

 

Q Why did you have your gun? 

 

A Because I wanted to kill a rival who looked sideways at me.

 

Carry on, nothing to see here

 

Okay, so you are anti-gun. Your analogy makes no sense.



#8 Songhua

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Posted 2013-11-02 07:53:49

How will these 'tourist areas' be defined? All of Bangkok or just Nana, Khao San etc, all of Phuket or just Patong?
Will there be signs prohibiting guns at entries to these special areas or will the toters simply know they can carry one, say, anywhere in Pattaya except Walking St?

#9 NamKangMan

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Posted 2013-11-02 08:39:19

Another PR flop by the Phuket police.

 

Most tourists were probably unaware that many Thai's in the tourist areas are armed - now they are aware.  Instead of making them feel safer - they have done the opposite. 

 

I'm sure it will give them a nice impression of Phuket. 



#10 JoeThePoster

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Posted 2013-11-02 08:43:00

How about exchanging the guns for a really big whistle?

#11 sunshine51

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Posted 2013-11-02 09:13:25

I'm all for "responsible" gun ownership in LOS.

That said...as for the bad guys, I reckon they'll

never get the message about the new law....

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#12 upena

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Posted 2013-11-02 10:00:33

Another "solution" that doesn't solve the problem.



#13 SOTIRIOS

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Posted 2013-11-02 10:33:50

...but for watch thieves or watch vendors..........it's ok.....500 baht....no time in jail....

 

....and if they happen to kill a foreigner.......but...'didn't mean to'..........that's ok too.....

 

 



#14 cup-O-coffee

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:10:13

Yeah, right, officer! Sure! Uh huh! Yes! I understand! Yes. Uh huh! No problem! I feel safe now because you said this. Kahp Kuhn Crap!



#15 madmitch

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:14:06

How about removing guns in tourist areas from the biggest threat, i.e. the Royal Thai Police? Especially when off-duty!


Edited by madmitch, 2013-11-02 11:14:47.


#16 dennisgb45

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:18:29

 As in everywhere in the world, it's not the licensed gun owners who are a crime problem. Criminals don't register their guns.



#17 LivinginKata

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:20:24

How about removing guns in tourist areas from the biggest threat, i.e. the Royal Thai Police? Especially when off-duty!


especially after a few drinks (that can be on and off duty)

#18 Zumteufel

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:23:06

 

“The only exception to the law will be cases where the gun owner can prove that he had a good reason for carrying the gun,” Lt Col Akanit explained.

“If someone has to carry a lot of money or is being threatened by someone, than carrying a gun may be permissible,” Col Akanit said.

 

 

There my friends is the get out of jail card.

 

Q Why did you have your gun? 

 

A Because I wanted to kill a rival who looked sideways at me.

 

Carry on, nothing to see here

 

Okay, so you are anti-gun. Your analogy makes no sense.

 

I think he was referring to the "or is being threatened by someone, than carrying a gun may be permissible" part, in which case it makes perfect sense. Anybody can claim to be/feel threatened by someone.



#19 yingyo

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:23:58

Pointless crap that will change absolutely nothing, in any way.



#20 drdoom6996

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:38:14

Great, another law that will not be enforced.  But a headline, story and photo op.  And again I'm he got his television time as well.  



#21 Bagwan

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:43:37

I'm all for "responsible" gun ownership in LOS.

That said...as for the bad guys, I reckon they'll

never get the message about the new law....

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Please define 'responsible'. Do remember that TIT.

 

Taking your contention to it's logical conclusion would only start an arms race and eventually we'd all be driving around in tanks.



#22 monkeycountry

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Posted 2013-11-02 11:56:52

“If we receive a report of a guard attacking a tourist, we will charge him for assault, which carries a fine of up to 4,000 baht, two years in prison or both,”

 

The actual sentence for assaulting a tourist is a 500 baht fine, no prison - or both!

 

It is good to see the jetski mafia has now decided no longer to attack tourists right away, but instead call their fellow gang members, the police, before the attack/extortion commences.

 

As for guns - how about a law prohibiting everyone but the police from carrying guns? Some countries have laws like that, such as scandinavia - and magically those countries have very low gun crime rates biggrin.png



 



#23 GBK

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Posted 2013-11-02 12:36:11

 

I'm all for "responsible" gun ownership in LOS.

That said...as for the bad guys, I reckon they'll

never get the message about the new law....

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Please define 'responsible'. Do remember that TIT.

 

Taking your contention to it's logical conclusion would only start an arms race and eventually we'd all be driving around in tanks.

 

 

 

Except that we cannot.

 

I know, i tried to buy one.



#24 Sealbash

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Posted 2013-11-02 12:44:07

Thailand, third in the world, for hand gun murders! and remember these are children with attitude.


Where might we find these statistics?



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#25 Loles

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Posted 2013-11-02 13:25:59

I guess this will help a lot hit-the-fan.gifcrazy.gif







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