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Posted 2007-04-05 21:45:29
 Siripon, on 2007-04-05 21:19:04, said:
blaze, on 2007-04-05 18:17:13, said: marshbags, on 2007-04-05 18:09:34, said: Breaking news B.Post 16:41
Quote:-
Sonthi dares Noppadon to name names
(BangkokPost.com) - Council for National Security chairman Sonthi Boonyaratkalin on Thursday called on lawyer of ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra to state clearly who he thinks were the "influential figures" demanding kickback money from TV channel 5 station.
Gen Sonthi said he believed the lawyer Noppadon Pattama raised the issue in an attempt to cover up heated political tension in the country, like alleged corruption charges against Mr Thaksin.
He called Mr Noppadon's action politically motivated.
Unquote.
Please go to the url for the complete news brief.
http://www.bangkokpo...s.php?id=117894
What,s the betting rent a mouth stays hush on this one and is economical with the relevant information
He,s  .......  for convenience sake.
marshbags
What the hel_l is Sonthi talking about? Doesn't he read the Nation? In yesterdays report in the Nation, Noppy named the alleged culprit- Hey General- he already named the culprit: it's yer wife fer chrissake. How many wives do you have? Oh. wait- yeah- I see the problem.
Seriously though, we gotta wonder about the caliber of reporting that goes on. It's just possible that Noppy did NOT, as Sonthi seems to think, name anybody- that the Nation decided to fill in the blanks for us.
Oh dear, blaze, you are really showing your limitations- 'doesn't he read the Nation?!' Do you really think the government sits down in the morning and earnestly pores through 'The Nation'? LOL.
Journalists asked Noppadon yesterday, and please stop calling him Noppy, it sounds like you're being awfully condescending, perhaps we should refer to Bushy boy and his side-kick Karly roving-eye; to cite his sources and witnesses regarding his accusations against one of Sonthi's wives of demanding kickbacks from Channel 5. The lawyer-turned- public promoter of Thaksin then refused to divulge his sources.
Of course I realize he doesn't read the Nation- I was facetiously attempting to show that the Nation appears to have jumped the gun on this.
but the link above says: Sonthi Boonyaratkalin on Thursday called on lawyer of ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra to state clearly who he thinks were the "influential figures" demanding kickback money from TV Channel 5"
Yet in yesterday's Nation we read:
Colonel Sensern Kaewkamnerd Tuesday dismissed as "groundless" an accusation from a lawyer to deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra that a wife of the CNS chief took "kickbacks" from Channel 5's programming.
It didn't say 'a' CNS chief- it said 'the' CNS chief. There's only one chief.
Edited by blaze, 2007-04-05 21:55:38.
Posted 2007-04-06 00:22:59
Nopadon has taken on the roll of the mosquito in all of this. Prior to the coup at least he had some credibility in my mind as a lawyer. More accurately plaintiff lawyer who I am sure had his own private window at the court clerks office to sue people for Thaksin. Now his roll has clearly shifted to the defendant side and if he is found to be giving deliberately false and misleading politically motivated statements, I know in some countries that may get his disbarred as he is an officer of the court. If I was to say that if and when Thaksin is found guilty and many of the government officials predict, Nopadon will be hard pressed to find clients.
Another dance with the devil in progress?
Posted 2007-04-06 01:08:49
Thaksin's Friends Defy Junta, Hold Rallies
BANGKOK, (IPS) - Thailand's military-installed government and supporters of deposed leader, Thaksin Shinawatra, are engaged in games of political chess centred on freedom of speech and political gatherings ahead of elections planned in December.
A series of rallies called by the banned, satellite-based People's Television (PTV) are beginning to draw small crowds. PTV is backed by former senior members of Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai (Thai Love Thai) Party. Speakers at one of the rallies last week railed against the junta, the Council for National Security (CNS), led by Gen. Sonthi Boonyaratglin.
Lashing out against the media in the late afternoon heat of a Thai summer day was ‘Anna' -- "a Catholic name," she says in a matter of fact manner. "You know the radio, the television, the newspaper, make a mistake, make wrong, never right. They write the wrong, they make a mistake to the people," said Anna, 60, in broken English, giving no second name.
Several of the corruption cases the junta alleges Thaksin was involved in are now being brought before the courts. "I hear something bad, they complain, and condemn Thaksin. But PTV broadcasting is good. They want to show (what is) right," Anna said.
In March prosecutors framed charges of tax evasion against Thaksin's wife and moved to implicate his children. Thaksin's family, in January 2006, benefited by selling 49 percent stake in the telecom firm Shin Corp for 1.9 billion US dollars to Singapore's Temasek Holdings, but steered around paying taxes on the deal.
Like many others, at the rallies, Anna has great faith in the former leader and is spurred by hopes of a return of Thaksin's populist economic policies that boosted incomes for the urban and rural poor. But they have largely been curtailed under the new government with the result that the Thai economy is seeing a slowing down.
"Prime Minister Thaksin was ‘dee maak', -- very good. People, the ordinary people were very happy, we had work. Thaksin was the very best. The ordinary people loved Thaksin a lot. (Now) everything fails a lot. The people are poor and there is a lot of drugs around," she says.
"You know we are sad right now, we're unhappy. People so sad, jobless ... finances, everything. I'm so sad. We need our prime minister Thaksin come back. And we don't know how long (before he returns), but we hope, our people hope," she said. Thaksin, who was ousted while out of the country, is yet to return home.
Other anti-government groups attended and prominent among them was the ‘Saturday Voice Against Dictators'. Spokesman for the group Suchart Nak Bang Sai said the rally's main purpose was to raise awareness among the general public.
"We're trying to educate the Thai people and give them the news. The other side of the side -- the correct side as we see it -- because there have been blackouts since the (coup on) Sep.19 last year. There's been a news blackout throughout the country," Suchart said.
"The majority of the Thai people don't know what's true and what's not. They only get to hear what the government wants them to hear. So we're trying to educate them and give them the news," he told IPS.
But the group is also drawing public attention through a campaign to submit a petition to Thailand's revered monarch King Bhumibol Adulyadej. The group wants Prem Tinsulanonda, a senior member of the king's privy council, to step down. They allege that the former prime minister and retired general was the mastermind behind the September coup and accuse him of ‘'taking advantage of his position".
The attacks on Prem first occurred at a rally in late March. This led to interim prime minister Surayud Chulanont --a former member of the privy council himself -- and Gen. Sonthi both denying that Prem had any role in the coup. "I know full well that when I was privy councillor (Prem) was not involved and didn't know what was to happen," Surayud told ‘The Nation' newspaper.
PTV organisers have distanced themselves from the signature campaign, but groups such as Saturday Voice Against Dictators hope to attract 100,000 signatures before submitting them to the King.
Late last month, the firebrand media mogul Sondhi Limthongkul was handed a two-year prison term for criminal defamation charges brought against him by former minister Phumtham Wechayachai.
Sondhi's talk shows were hugely popular in the run-up to the military coup and he faces a string of defamation suits filed against him by Thaksin and his political associates. But it was the ruling military junta that finally took his talk show off the air, after he criticised its financial and economic policies on it, last month.
CNS spokesman Col. Sansern Kaewkamnerd was reported by the ‘Bangkok Post' as saying the signature campaign against Prem was "inappropriate". Sansern accused the "old power clique" -- meaning supporters of Thaksin -- of being behind the campaign.
- Inter Press Service
Posted 2007-04-06 03:56:00
TRT urges corruption probe in 3 ministries
The Thai Rak Thai Party yesterday called on the government to investigate projects in three ministries for alleged corruption.
Suthin Klangsaeng, deputy spokesman for the former ruling party, said a Thai Rak Thai panel monitoring the administration had received many complaints from people asking it to investigate alleged corruption under the current government.
"The panel is collecting the complaints, after which we will forward them to the National Counter Corruption Commission and the Assets Examination Committee," he said.
Suthin said at least three ministries were accused of corruption.
First, there were complaints about the Agriculture Ministry's compensation of Bt220 million to farmers who were affected by flash floods last year.
"The ministry did not pay cash but gave out seeds instead, which is an old method of corruption," Suthin said.
Other allegedly corrupt schemes were under the Transport and Interior ministries, the spokesman said.
He said the party had received information that supported claims by lawyer Noppadon Pattama, ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's legal adviser, that a wife of junta chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin took "kickbacks" from Channel 5's programming.
The party expects to expose the Channel 5 case to the public next week, he said.
"The junta spokesmen and the government should pay attention to these complaints rather than try to defend them because the people hope that the junta will help them," he said.
Source: The Nation
This is getting a bit childish. It amounts to either saying:
Look, we are not the only ones doing bad things...uhh that did not sound right. 
Or
If they can do it so can we. 
They need to working on cleaning their own house and not worry about others. Either way it comes across as an admission of guilt.
Edited by John K, 2007-04-06 03:56:39.
Posted 2007-04-06 12:05:48
John K, on 2007-04-06 03:56:00, said: TRT urges corruption probe in 3 ministries
The Thai Rak Thai Party yesterday called on the government to investigate projects in three ministries for alleged corruption.
Suthin Klangsaeng, deputy spokesman for the former ruling party, said a Thai Rak Thai panel monitoring the administration had received many complaints from people asking it to investigate alleged corruption under the current government.
"The panel is collecting the complaints, after which we will forward them to the National Counter Corruption Commission and the Assets Examination Committee," he said.
Suthin said at least three ministries were accused of corruption.
First, there were complaints about the Agriculture Ministry's compensation of Bt220 million to farmers who were affected by flash floods last year.
"The ministry did not pay cash but gave out seeds instead, which is an old method of corruption," Suthin said.
Other allegedly corrupt schemes were under the Transport and Interior ministries, the spokesman said.
He said the party had received information that supported claims by lawyer Noppadon Pattama, ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's legal adviser, that a wife of junta chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin took "kickbacks" from Channel 5's programming.
The party expects to expose the Channel 5 case to the public next week, he said.
"The junta spokesmen and the government should pay attention to these complaints rather than try to defend them because the people hope that the junta will help them," he said.
Source: The Nation
This is getting a bit childish. It amounts to either saying:
Look, we are not the only ones doing bad things...uhh that did not sound right.
Or
If they can do it so can we.
They need to working on cleaning their own house and not worry about others. Either way it comes across as an admission of guilt.
Context is all important. Cases aagainst TRT heavyweights are coming closer to conclusion. The minions of TRT are going to use eevry tactic to try and derail these.
Now that is not to say that any corruption in the curent governemtn should not be investigated if there is corruption. However, this should in no way be connected to ongoing court cases over what seems fairly large scale organised family based corruption, which enough evidence has been found on to at least reach court. Any investigation into current corruption should involve holding the same legal standards.
At the moment it sounds more like a commonly used political announcement of corruptuption with evidence to be produced in X more days than anything real, but we will see. I always wonder why politicians dont produce evidence now. I am usually disappointed when in X days they produce a bunch of hearsay. Of course the other context is that anything that comes out of the mouth of a Thaksin linked spokeperson is generally regarded by the Thai middle classes as lies now that he himself is so discredited through his myriad of diversionary political comments. We will see.
Posted 2007-04-06 14:46:59
hammered, on 2007-04-06 12:05:48, said: John K, on 2007-04-06 03:56:00, said: TRT urges corruption probe in 3 ministries
The Thai Rak Thai Party yesterday called on the government to investigate projects in three ministries for alleged corruption.
Suthin Klangsaeng, deputy spokesman for the former ruling party, said a Thai Rak Thai panel monitoring the administration had received many complaints from people asking it to investigate alleged corruption under the current government.
"The panel is collecting the complaints, after which we will forward them to the National Counter Corruption Commission and the Assets Examination Committee," he said.
Suthin said at least three ministries were accused of corruption.
First, there were complaints about the Agriculture Ministry's compensation of Bt220 million to farmers who were affected by flash floods last year.
"The ministry did not pay cash but gave out seeds instead, which is an old method of corruption," Suthin said.
Other allegedly corrupt schemes were under the Transport and Interior ministries, the spokesman said.
He said the party had received information that supported claims by lawyer Noppadon Pattama, ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's legal adviser, that a wife of junta chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin took "kickbacks" from Channel 5's programming.
The party expects to expose the Channel 5 case to the public next week, he said.
"The junta spokesmen and the government should pay attention to these complaints rather than try to defend them because the people hope that the junta will help them," he said.
Source: The Nation
This is getting a bit childish. It amounts to either saying:
Look, we are not the only ones doing bad things...uhh that did not sound right.
Or
If they can do it so can we.
They need to working on cleaning their own house and not worry about others. Either way it comes across as an admission of guilt.
Context is all important. Cases aagainst TRT heavyweights are coming closer to conclusion. The minions of TRT are going to use eevry tactic to try and derail these.
Now that is not to say that any corruption in the curent governemtn should not be investigated if there is corruption. However, this should in no way be connected to ongoing court cases over what seems fairly large scale organised family based corruption, which enough evidence has been found on to at least reach court. Any investigation into current corruption should involve holding the same legal standards.
At the moment it sounds more like a commonly used political announcement of corruptuption with evidence to be produced in X more days than anything real, but we will see. I always wonder why politicians dont produce evidence now. I am usually disappointed when in X days they produce a bunch of hearsay. Of course the other context is that anything that comes out of the mouth of a Thaksin linked spokeperson is generally regarded by the Thai middle classes as lies now that he himself is so discredited through his myriad of diversionary political comments. We will see.
Is there a law in Thailand that says that if you know of corruption, by not reporting it in detail to the appropriate authorities you can be charged with being complicate (sp?) to the crime? If not, there should be.
There seems to be an attitude that the purpose of investigating corruption is solely to wound your political opponents- that the public has no stake or interest in the corruption being exposed aside from some soap operaish titillation. And this isn't new either- it's been going on long before Thaksin showed up on the scene.
Posted 2007-04-06 16:39:27
blaze, on 2007-04-06 14:46:59, said: hammered, on 2007-04-06 12:05:48, said: John K, on 2007-04-06 03:56:00, said: TRT urges corruption probe in 3 ministries
The Thai Rak Thai Party yesterday called on the government to investigate projects in three ministries for alleged corruption.
Suthin Klangsaeng, deputy spokesman for the former ruling party, said a Thai Rak Thai panel monitoring the administration had received many complaints from people asking it to investigate alleged corruption under the current government.
"The panel is collecting the complaints, after which we will forward them to the National Counter Corruption Commission and the Assets Examination Committee," he said.
Suthin said at least three ministries were accused of corruption.
First, there were complaints about the Agriculture Ministry's compensation of Bt220 million to farmers who were affected by flash floods last year.
"The ministry did not pay cash but gave out seeds instead, which is an old method of corruption," Suthin said.
Other allegedly corrupt schemes were under the Transport and Interior ministries, the spokesman said.
He said the party had received information that supported claims by lawyer Noppadon Pattama, ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's legal adviser, that a wife of junta chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin took "kickbacks" from Channel 5's programming.
The party expects to expose the Channel 5 case to the public next week, he said.
"The junta spokesmen and the government should pay attention to these complaints rather than try to defend them because the people hope that the junta will help them," he said.
Source: The Nation
This is getting a bit childish. It amounts to either saying:
Look, we are not the only ones doing bad things...uhh that did not sound right.
Or
If they can do it so can we.
They need to working on cleaning their own house and not worry about others. Either way it comes across as an admission of guilt.
Context is all important. Cases aagainst TRT heavyweights are coming closer to conclusion. The minions of TRT are going to use eevry tactic to try and derail these.
Now that is not to say that any corruption in the curent governemtn should not be investigated if there is corruption. However, this should in no way be connected to ongoing court cases over what seems fairly large scale organised family based corruption, which enough evidence has been found on to at least reach court. Any investigation into current corruption should involve holding the same legal standards.
At the moment it sounds more like a commonly used political announcement of corruptuption with evidence to be produced in X more days than anything real, but we will see. I always wonder why politicians dont produce evidence now. I am usually disappointed when in X days they produce a bunch of hearsay. Of course the other context is that anything that comes out of the mouth of a Thaksin linked spokeperson is generally regarded by the Thai middle classes as lies now that he himself is so discredited through his myriad of diversionary political comments. We will see.
Is there a law in Thailand that says that if you know of corruption, by not reporting it in detail to the appropriate authorities you can be charged with being complicate (sp?) to the crime? If not, there should be.
There seems to be an attitude that the purpose of investigating corruption is solely to wound your political opponents- that the public has no stake or interest in the corruption being exposed aside from some soap operaish titillation. And this isn't new either- it's been going on long before Thaksin showed up on the scene.
Not a bad idea to have laws on this. It would probably also need a properly independent investigating body too with assured funding no government could interfere with.
In the past corruption was always limited to some extent by the nature of coalition governments - parties moved in and out as allegations came up and easily collapsed governments. The need for stronger laws and investigating bodies becomes more critical when you have single party government. Exactly how the strengthening of laws and bodies is done was missed in the 1997 constitution where even the role of the courts was largely left undefined, and bodies were easily controlled by government. This is an area that any new charter should address. Sadly nobody is probably discussing this at the moment, so we rely on the charter writers getting it right.
Posted 2007-04-06 18:45:22
Activists cancel rally Friday
An anti-coup group cancelled their rally at Sanam Luang Friday for fear that its use of public addressing system would interfere with the Chakri Day ceremony at a nearby temple.
Wiphuthalaeng Pattanaphumthai said his Saturday People Group decided to cancel the planned rally Friday.
But it would hold a marathon rally with other anti-coup groups starting from Saturday to Wednesday, he said.
The Nation
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Is this Saturday People Group the same as the Saturday Voice Against Dictators of Post #483??
How many Saturdays are there in the month of May?
Posted 2007-04-06 18:55:04
Protest rally to go ahead on Sunday
The operators of the pro-Thaksin PTV will press ahead with a rally against the government and the CNS scheduled for Sunday at Sanam Luang. Aree Krainara, PTV's business development manager, yesterday wrote to the BMA seeking permission to use Sanam Luang as a venue for the PTV rally. The third such gathering organised by the station, it is scheduled to take place from 4.30pm to midnight. On Sunday, PTV executives will talk about plans to push for broadcasts by the station, express opposition to the Surayud Chulanont government, as well as the pay rise awarded to staff and members of the CNS. Speakers will also touch on the free trade agreement Thailand recently signed with Japan. Mr Aree assured that the speakers would not resort to personal attacks and also not allow other groups of demonstrators to join them.
Continued here:
http://www.bangkokpo...s.php?id=117909
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As for this, the other rally, PTV ARE returning to the television issue, but they are NOT allowing any of the assorted "Saturday unions" to joing THEIR rally this time...
Interestingly something is missing from their third rally's scheduled agenda that was quite prevalent during their first one... hmmmm....
Edited by sriracha john, 2007-04-06 18:57:15.
Posted 2007-04-07 00:16:42
TRT convinced another coup on the way
The Thai Rak Thai Party will launch a nationwide campaign against another possible coup, saying that its political analysts have found evidence that clearly supports the theory that one will take place.
Suthin Klangsaeng, the party's caretaker spokesman, said his team strongly believed another coup was on the cards, citing three main indicators.
The first is the growing conflict between the government and the Council for National Security (CNS) and the political movement of some groups, especially the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD).
Second, some media have been supporting or trying to create conditions - by citing recent protests - that make another coup necessary.
Third, there have been attempts to change the prime minister and topple the government.
Suthin said the Thai Rai Thai strongly disapproved of any attempt at another coup, believing it would create "detrimental damage" to the country. It will gather the signatures of people across the country to oppose the idea.
"The Thai Rak Thai Party will exert all efforts to fight against any coup attempts, by resorting to peaceful and democratic methods. The party believes the political problems can be solved by using an interim constitution, and the election must be held as the government has promised," he said.
Nisit Sinthuprai, a former Thai Rak Thai MP, said the party would campaign in every tambon and village for people to join it in lodging complaints against potential coup-makers.
Chaturon Chaisang, the party leader, supports the plan.
"We believe this will provide stronger immunity for democracy against a coup," he said.
PTV deputy chairman Chatuporn Prompan said he believed Thai Rak Thai coup theory because CNS deputy secretary-general Saprang Kalayanamitr has made noises about another coup for eight months.
The PAD has also staged a political campaign in the provinces over the past two months "without sound reasons", he said.
Chatuporn suspects the PAD wants to support a coup so that the coup-makers can use protests as an excuse to prevent confrontation, as they did in staging the September 19 takeover last year.
source: The Nation
Clearly the TRT have not mastered the power of suggestion. The only ones that want a coup is them to save there asses.
Edited by John K, 2007-04-07 00:18:24.
Posted 2007-04-07 01:21:04
PAD vs CNS? 
TRT desperately pointing fingers again. Every time, like little children lying for the first time.
Posted 2007-04-07 06:20:45
Tony Clifton, on 2007-04-07 01:21:04, said: TRT desperately pointing fingers again. Every time, like little children lying for the first time. 
Posted 2007-04-07 10:16:09
John K, on 2007-04-07 00:16:42, said: TRT convinced another coup on the way
The Thai Rak Thai Party will launch a nationwide campaign against another possible coup, saying that its political analysts have found evidence that clearly supports the theory that one will take place.
Suthin Klangsaeng, the party's caretaker spokesman, said his team strongly believed another coup was on the cards, citing three main indicators.
The first is the growing conflict between the government and the Council for National Security (CNS) and the political movement of some groups, especially the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD).
Second, some media have been supporting or trying to create conditions - by citing recent protests - that make another coup necessary.
Third, there have been attempts to change the prime minister and topple the government.
Suthin said the Thai Rai Thai strongly disapproved of any attempt at another coup, believing it would create "detrimental damage" to the country. It will gather the signatures of people across the country to oppose the idea.
"The Thai Rak Thai Party will exert all efforts to fight against any coup attempts, by resorting to peaceful and democratic methods. The party believes the political problems can be solved by using an interim constitution, and the election must be held as the government has promised," he said.
Nisit Sinthuprai, a former Thai Rak Thai MP, said the party would campaign in every tambon and village for people to join it in lodging complaints against potential coup-makers.
Chaturon Chaisang, the party leader, supports the plan.
"We believe this will provide stronger immunity for democracy against a coup," he said.
PTV deputy chairman Chatuporn Prompan said he believed Thai Rak Thai coup theory because CNS deputy secretary-general Saprang Kalayanamitr has made noises about another coup for eight months.
The PAD has also staged a political campaign in the provinces over the past two months "without sound reasons", he said.
Chatuporn suspects the PAD wants to support a coup so that the coup-makers can use protests as an excuse to prevent confrontation, as they did in staging the September 19 takeover last year.
source: The Nation
Clearly the TRT have not mastered the power of suggestion. The only ones that want a coup is them to save there asses.
Quite interesting that they choose to mention this now. Since about September 20 last year there have been rumors at different times of either a Thaksinista coup or a more anti-Thaksin coup. To date neither have happened. Rumors suggested the closest (not very close at all) was a few months back when there were strong rumors of a pro-Thaksin coup. Since then there have been big changes in the military command in the area where this rumor emmanted from. The other strong rumor was before this and involved one member of the CNS not getting support for a more anti-Thaksin coup. Right now since the most recent reshuffle the Thaksinistas would find it very very difficult to launch a coup although nothing can be ruled out. Right now there also seems little reason for a more anti-Thaksin coup, which inless supported by those controlling the troops would not work anyway, although again nothing should be ruled out, and events could rapidly change things. The guy that terrifies TRT and they seem to link to a new coup is quite likely the next head of the Thai army and CNS in a few months time. There is no doubt extra pressure being applied by the CNS on the government to get the investigations completed and this alone is probably enough to upset the rump TRT who thought the Surayud government may be going very light on them.
In politics it is not unknown for parties to try and drive wedges between allies and this latest TRT ploy may be as simple as this. The threat to mobilize upcountry may also be the message that TRT actually want to get over. Whether they can still effectively do this with their power base splintered remains to be seen.
Posted 2007-04-07 10:34:54
Democrat to complete announcement on the party’s dissolution case next week
Democrat Party expects to complete it announcement on the party’s dissolution case by next week.
Democrat’s chief advisor, Chuan Leekphai says the announcement will be submitted to the Constitution Tribunal which has already finished 12 sessions of witness questioning. The tribunal demanded the party to hand in the announcement within 20 days after the final session or by April 25th. The party’s first meeting on the announcement is scheduled to take place today. The announcement is expected to be not less than 100 pages.
Mr Chuan adds that testimonies and evidences presented by the plaintiff during the witness questioning sessions are not solid enough for the tribunal to dissolve the party.
Meanwhile, Democrat Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva requests the Cabinet to revoke the Council for Democratic Reform’s 15th and 27th announcements as he claims that the general public has called for the party to arrange political activities. He says the revocation of the announcements will facilitate the party’s trips to hear problems of residents in rural areas, especially the three Southern border provinces.
Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 07 April 2007
Posted 2007-04-07 11:01:49
hammered, on 2007-04-07 10:16:09, said:
I like that... thank you.
Posted 2007-04-07 11:05:57
sriracha john, on 2007-04-07 11:01:49, said: hammered, on 2007-04-07 10:16:09, said:
I like that... thank you.
you're welcome. I'm not sure the Sandanistas will be so happy. 
Posted 2007-04-07 11:24:52
Sondhistas or Sonthistas?
Posted 2007-04-07 11:27:44
Hammered,
what you are seeing is very typical. Try not to look at the TRT as a group but more as a person. It will help you to predict what is next.
So as it stands this arrogant / bully person is about to be punished for things he did. So using arrogance as a base, you can expect hollow threats and diversions to substantiate his side. The threats come from anger and the bully side. The suggestion of a coup is a veiled threat that suggests revenge will happen if punishment is carried out.
Predictably there will be a flood of accusations pointing to others from the TRT between now and the closing of this issue. This is a classic example. If you care to dig back take a look at some of the murders in the USA that were very arrogant during the trial and how they acted. More recently Saddam Hussein but he was much more arrogant and abusive towards the court. Remove the abusive nature towards the court and you will see how similar the TRT is to Saddam. One difference is Saddam was in a position of much less leverage than the TRT. Events like the PTV /TRT / Thaksin rallies are an example. In a sense it is the same arrogance against authority that Saddam showed in the court.
Posted 2007-04-07 11:39:49
TRT to open its new office on Rama 3 Rd. this Monday
The Thai Rak Thai (TRT) Party is preparing to open its new office on Rama 3 Rd. this Monday (Apr 9). It will disclose the party’s direction and situation under the observation of the Council for National Security (CNS).
TRT Spokesman Kuthep Saikrajarng says the opening ceremony will be held on 9:09 hours and presided by TRT caretaker leader Chaturon Chaisang. Press members report that the TRT will use this opportunity to reveal the further direction of the party and its standpoint to continue its political roles.
The party will talk about the national situation and the corruptions of Suvarnabhumi Airport.
At the same time, Deputy Army Commander in Chief and Deputy Chairman of the Council for National Security (CNS), Gen. Saprang Kalayanamitr (สพรั่ง กัลยาณมิตร), has assigned officials to seek further evidence of the corruptions of Suvarnabhumi Airport.
Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 07 April 2007
Posted 2007-04-07 12:13:27
John K, on 2007-04-07 11:27:44, said: Hammered,
what you are seeing is very typical. Try not to look at the TRT as a group but more as a person. It will help you to predict what is next.
So as it stands this arrogant / bully person is about to be punished for things he did. So using arrogance as a base, you can expect hollow threats and diversions to substantiate his side. The threats come from anger and the bully side. The suggestion of a coup is a veiled threat that suggests revenge will happen if punishment is carried out.
The coup that the TRT is warning about would not occur if punishment is carried out: it would occur if punishment is NOT carried out. Read the article again as well as Hammered's post. Much has been discussed here and in other forums about a group within the military that believes that Sonthi and most certainly Sarayuth are being a way too soft on Thaksin. Included in this group may be the PAD- though there is no evidence to suggest that the PAD would welcome a second coup- aside from statements made by some in the TRT.
Edited by blaze, 2007-04-07 12:14:33.
Posted 2007-04-07 12:23:43
blaze, on 2007-04-07 12:13:27, said: John K, on 2007-04-07 11:27:44, said: Hammered,
what you are seeing is very typical. Try not to look at the TRT as a group but more as a person. It will help you to predict what is next.
So as it stands this arrogant / bully person is about to be punished for things he did. So using arrogance as a base, you can expect hollow threats and diversions to substantiate his side. The threats come from anger and the bully side. The suggestion of a coup is a veiled threat that suggests revenge will happen if punishment is carried out.
The coup that the TRT is warning about would not occur if punishment is carried out: it would occur if punishment is NOT carried out. Read the article again as well as Hammered's post. Much has been discussed here and in other forums about a group within the military that believes that Sonthi and most certainly Sarayuth are being a way too soft on Thaksin. Included in this group may be the PAD- though there is no evidence to suggest that the PAD would welcome a second coup- aside from statements made by some in the TRT.
Many of the statement will be un-rational. It does not suggest that the TRT would suffer, only the authorities. It does also suggest that only the TRT can save the day. The closer one gets to panic the more impulsive and the less logical things become.
Posted 2007-04-07 12:26:38
sriracha john, on 2007-04-03 00:56:30, said: TRT to shift this month
The Thai Rak Thai Party plans to move from its compound on Phetchaburi Road to a new headquarters on Rama III later this month.
Caretaker deputy leader Pongthep Thepkanchana said the party needed to cut costs and its current operating base was expensive and large. He said the IFCT building on Phetchaburi Road would be returned to Khunying Pojaman Shinawatra, wife of former Thai Rak Thai party leader Thaksin.
Party executives expect to move this month. The party planned to move last year to its original home
on Rajvithee Road but scrapped that idea. The Rajvithee building belongs to the Thaicom Foundation
- The Nation
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Pojaman doesn't allow the TRT to use her building for free??!? 
Or she doesn't have the funds anymore to pay utilities??!?!!
sheesh... she IS one greedy B _ _ _ _ !!  
The Thai Rak Thai Party will move its head office from the IFCT Building to a building on Rama III Road on Monday, party spokesman Kuthep Saikrajang said Saturday.
Kuthep said the new head office would be located in Navasorn Buidling in Bang Kholaem district.
A religious ceremony to bless the new head office will be held at 8:30 am on Monday.
He said the relocation of the head office would herald the new era of the party.
- The Nation
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I still find this so weird, given that Pokemon owns the building. What does she have up her sleeve that it sounds like she's evicting her own TRT Party?
Obviously, it's not the quoted "shortage of funds" that the Party cries.... those guys are all loaded.
Posted 2007-04-07 12:33:56
John K, on 2007-04-07 12:23:43, said: blaze, on 2007-04-07 12:13:27, said: John K, on 2007-04-07 11:27:44, said: Hammered,
what you are seeing is very typical. Try not to look at the TRT as a group but more as a person. It will help you to predict what is next.
So as it stands this arrogant / bully person is about to be punished for things he did. So using arrogance as a base, you can expect hollow threats and diversions to substantiate his side. The threats come from anger and the bully side. The suggestion of a coup is a veiled threat that suggests revenge will happen if punishment is carried out.
The coup that the TRT is warning about would not occur if punishment is carried out: it would occur if punishment is NOT carried out. Read the article again as well as Hammered's post. Much has been discussed here and in other forums about a group within the military that believes that Sonthi and most certainly Sarayuth are being a way too soft on Thaksin. Included in this group may be the PAD- though there is no evidence to suggest that the PAD would welcome a second coup- aside from statements made by some in the TRT.
Many of the statement will be un-rational. It does not suggest that the TRT would suffer, only the authorities. It does also suggest that only the TRT can save the day. The closer one gets to panic the more impulsive and the less logical things become.
Many of what statement is 'un-rational'?
Posted 2007-04-07 12:39:30
John K, on 2007-04-07 11:27:44, said: Hammered,
what you are seeing is very typical. Try not to look at the TRT as a group but more as a person. It will help you to predict what is next.
It always is comfortable to bend facts to suit ones argumentation.
Try to look at reality, please, for a change, and see TRT as what it always was - a large conglomerate of often widely differing vested interests that Thaksin was able, for a certain period of time, to manage by balancing out each group's benefits against the other, and drawing his own advantage out of it as well.
TRT was doomed to collapse from the inside, as indeed happened, when powerful people such as Chavalit, Sanoh Tienthong, Sondhi L. and Chamlong distanced themselves from Thaksin.
Some of those groups of vested interest have split before and culminated into the the formation of PAD (yes, not all members of the PAD were TRT, but the two most powerful - Sondhi L. and Chamlong Srimuang definately were TRT).
Other groups now after the coup have taken a wait and see path, and will ally themselves, as usual, and as they have always done, with whom comes out as the most powerful clique.
And some are still carrying the TRT banner.
This is Thai politics, nothing is monolithic, things are always in a flux, only the uninformed believe that there is a change in the air for more democracy, less corruption etc beyond pure lip service. Maybe you haven't been here long enough, but pre Thaksin Thailand was not exactly a pillar of democracy, upholding of human rights, and all the other nice stuff. 
Posted 2007-04-07 12:45:16
Opposition using rent-a-mob, says minister
Defence Minister Boonrawd Somtas claimed he has obtained information that protesters from the provinces have been paid to join anti-government and anti-coup rallies in Bangkok. Gen Boonrawd said steps would be taken against these people if they were found to have been paid to stage rallies, although he declined to elaborate. He said he has received information about the hiring of people from the provinces to join rallies at Sanam Luang. The CNS has coordinated with the BMA to deal with demonstrators. Venues would be arranged if those demonstrators acted within the scope of the law, he said. The operators of PTV earlier announced that they would press ahead with a rally against the government and the CNS tomorrow at Sanam Luang. In Nakhon Ratchasima, a group of supporters of Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda yesterday gathered at the Thao Suranaree monument to denounce anti-coup groups over their moves to petition His Majesty the King to remove Gen Prem from his post. In Songkhla, around 1,000 people joined a rally to give Gen Prem moral support.
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http://www.bangkokpo...s.php?id=117928
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