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[tangoll]

As hobby, I like to do woodworking and will make some of my own furniture when I move into a new apartment at end of the year.  Where in Bangkok can I find do it yourself centers or where can I find lumberyards or shops selling wood/plywood sheets, studs, etc.  And is delivery service available?

What are standard sizes in Thailand comparable to US sizes like 4' x 8' x half or 3/4 inch sheets, 2 in x 4 in x 8 ft studs, 1" x 4" and 2" x 2" studs?

I realize that having a contractor or labourer to do renovations or built-in furniture is the norm in Thailand, but doing work like this is just a hobby for me and I have all the time in the world to build work tables, shelves, bunk beds, etc.

Thanks.

[CymruAmByth]

Give HomePro a shot at the Ploenchit BTS station.  They have some decent branded tools in their store.  They might also know about the other information you need.

I would imagine most measurements are in Metric?

[astral]

Just a thought.

Do you need a Work Permit to do-it-yourself??

[chownah]

In the north where I live wood (lumber) is measured as follows:
Thickness is in inches
Width is in inches
Length is in sauk.....one sauk is half a metre....sauk means "elbow" because the distance from the tips of your fingers to your elbow is about half a metre.

Wood is usually sold green (not seasoned) and the dimensions are for green wood unplaned (rough lumber).  Some boards can be bought surfaced one side...like a one inch board surfaced on one side might be only 3/4 of an inch thick.  In buying lumber you should examine each piece yourself because at least where I buy there is some reallly bad stuff mixed in with the good stuff so it really really pays to choose carefully.
Sizes for lumber I can usually buy (sometimes they run out of certain sizes) in inches include.......1-1/2 x 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 or 10....2 x 4 or 6 or 8 or 10.....1 x 2 or 4 or 6 or 8 or 10........6 x 6.   For lengths you can typically buy 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 or 13 or 14 or 15 or 16 sauk lengths....but not every length will be available in every size.  I live in a small village so I know the wood store people personally so they will rip 2x8's in half for me if I want 2x4's and they don't have any....etc.  at no extra cost and you could probably get a store to do stuff like this for you too but they might charge a small amount.

Flat sheet like plywood and gypsum board etc. can be either 4 foot by 8 foot just like in the US or they can come in 120 cm by 240 cm.....so be sure to measure them before you buy them to be sure you are getting the size you want...and also...maybe find out what size you can get before you design whatever it is you are going to build.

There is a large variety of kinds of wood.  Good quality wood...meaning hard wood that bugs are less likely to eat...is called "neuea kheng" which means "hard grained"....neuea means "meat" or "grain (like wood grain) and kheng means "hard".....like ice is nahm kheng..."hard water".

If you want to make furniture type stuff then it is best to avoid the green lumber.....it is hard to find dry wood where I live but you should be able to find it in Bangkok I would think.

Good luck and have fun!!!
Chownah

[Gumballl]

astral, on 2006-06-15 09:26:10, said:

Just a thought.

Do you need a Work Permit to do-it-yourself??

My understanding is that the answer is "no".  WP is only necessary if the work is for the purpose of earning money (although the bartering of goods may also be considered).

Imagine if a person needed a WP to wipe their a*se... work involved, but unfortunately no money received.  

[tangoll]

CAB and chownah:  thx for the quick replies.  I'll check out the Home Pro at Ploenchit BTS  Wave Place when I'm in BKK later this month.  Info from Chownah is exactly what I was looking for.  

So one sauk = 50 cm = 19.68 inches; therefore 8 ft length = 4.88 sauks or about 5 sauks.  And a 120 x 240 cm sheet is almost = to a 4 x 8 ft sheet.  I'll check with the people at Home Pro on where to get decent or treated lumber in BKK.  So standard US sized lumber is actually used and available.

Since DIY takes work away from the locals, maybe the Thai Govt will issue an edict that a WP is required and is equal in cost to lost wages of locals who would have been hired to do the DIY projects (?).  Hope I can get into my apartment later this year and get the work done before the govt latches onto this new source of revenue.

Thanks again all.

[h90]

tangoll, on 2006-06-15 16:22:27, said:

As hobby, I like to do woodworking and will make some of my own furniture when I move into a new apartment at end of the year.  Where in Bangkok can I find do it yourself centers or where can I find lumberyards or shops selling wood/plywood sheets, studs, etc.  And is delivery service available?

What are standard sizes in Thailand comparable to US sizes like 4' x 8' x half or 3/4 inch sheets, 2 in x 4 in x 8 ft studs, 1" x 4" and 2" x 2" studs?

I realize that having a contractor or labourer to do renovations or built-in furniture is the norm in Thailand, but doing work like this is just a hobby for me and I have all the time in the world to build work tables, shelves, bunk beds, etc.

Thanks.

I didn't look for your things, but Klong Toy in Bangkok has nearly everything technical I ever saw in my life.

[The Skipper]

Go to Bang Po / Soi Furniture.
Wood, tools, sandpaper, fasteners, finish. Everything you need.
Also lots of pre made and made to order furniture.

[ivah]

Gumballl, on 2006-06-15 21:44:13, said:

astral, on 2006-06-15 09:26:10, said:

Just a thought.

Do you need a Work Permit to do-it-yourself??

My understanding is that the answer is "no".  WP is only necessary if the work is for the purpose of earning money (although the bartering of goods may also be considered).

Imagine if a person needed a WP to wipe their a*se... work involved, but unfortunately no money received.  

[ivah]

Gumballl, on 2006-06-15 21:44:13, said:

astral, on 2006-06-15 09:26:10, said:

Just a thought.

Do you need a Work Permit to do-it-yourself??

My understanding is that the answer is "no".  WP is only necessary if the work is for the purpose of earning money (although the bartering of goods may also be considered).

Imagine if a person needed a WP to wipe their a*se... work involved, but unfortunately no money received.  

YES, you actually DO NEED a work permit ... the law says clearly, that foreign needs a work permit to work in Thailand, regardless on if work is to be paid, or NOT ... if is it a work for money earning or even a volunteer kind of work or work for your own, Thai law doesn't make any different here ... however, no one shall report you to the authorities when seeing you to work on your house improvment, i guess ... (even wipping your a"se... might remain unreported, hopefully ...)

[chownah]

The chief immigration official in Phuket remarked in a Phuket gazette article a couple of years or so ago that the law is interpreted to allow for hobby activities and if anyone should try to interpret it otherwise that you should contact him and he would straighten them out.
Chownah

[monsieurhappy]

CymruAmByth, on 2006-06-15 17:10:57, said:

Give HomePro a shot at the Ploenchit BTS station.  They have some decent branded tools in their store.  They might also know about the other information you need.

I would imagine most measurements are in Metric?

Home Pro carry a good selection of wood in planed sizes but are very expensive. Check out any Thai timber sales first as you may save yourself some bahts!    

[ColPyat]

The Skipper, on 2006-06-16 06:38:16, said:

Go to Bang Po / Soi Furniture.
Wood, tools, sandpaper, fasteners, finish. Everything you need.
Also lots of pre made and made to order furniture.

In Thai it's called "Thanon Sai Mai" (or Soi Wat Batcha, i believe is the official name), runs between Pracharat Rd. (extension of Samsen Rd.) and Thanon Krunkthep - Non. (Bangkok - Nonthaburi Rd. ). Easiest access is from Bangsue railway station.
It's the place in Bangkok for anything regarding woodwork. Toolshops, Wood in all quantities and qualities. It's a Soi about a kilometer or two long, with hundreds of shops dealing in wood related businesses.

Edited by ColPyat, 2006-06-16 11:57:52.

[tangoll]

Thanks to all for your advice and information.  Very helpful.  I will check out this soi furniture or Wat Batcha when next in BKK, as well as what Home Pro has to offer.  

tangoll

[tangoll]

I've been to the Home Pro shops on Ratchada Road, Ploenchit, and Prachachuen.  The Prachachuen road shop has a wood centre on the 2nd floor which has a variety of good quality unfinished wood in different sizes and shapes that would fit the needs of most diy-ers.  If your purchase is over baht 3000, they deliver in Bangkok area.  There's also a workshop where they will do simple furniture and staining to your specifications.  Here are some representative prices:

Unfinished wood sheet: 100*200*2 cm:  baht 2140;  finished with stain: baht 2889 per piece

Square poles:  7*7*73 cm: baht 163
                      9*9*73 cm: baht 287

flat length piece: 10*200*2 cm: baht 226

plank: 1*8*99 inches:  baht 780 for better quality wood; baht 306 for poorer quality.

Special sale of their stained 4 leg rectangular table: 80*120*75 high cm: baht 2000. (just as an idea of  cost of their own made furniture)

I also went to Bang Po area, and on Pracharat Sai 1 and on Soi Pracha Narumit, you will find many wood working shops and saw mills, etc offering for sale all kinds of unfinished wood, and furniture like doors, chairs, benches, cabinets, bed end posts, etc.  I didn't check on prices because to sand and stain the lumber is too much of a job for me.  I'd rather just buy the better quality wood from that Home Pro shop and have them do the staining.

Edited by tangoll, 2006-08-05 22:54:34.

[shellman]

I bought a lot at HomePro over the years - especially the one on rachada - they got a pretty nice selection there...

http://www.homepro.co.th/en/index.asp

cheers

[qualtrough]

Not sure if it would suit your needs, but there are a lot of outfits selling used wood taken from old factories, rice mills, and other structures. If you take the road from Future Park heading towards Nakorn Nayok you will encounter quite a few on either side of the road. No green wood there.

[tangoll]

Shellman: yes, Homepro on Ratchada is nice, but no wood centre there; Pracha Chuen road  Homepro has the wood centre, so need to go there.  Thanks for website; most sections still under construction.

Qualtrough:  thanks for info on used wood shops, but I don't need that big a quantity, so the selection, and especially the finishing/staining service and free delivery for over baht 4000 purchase, available at Homepro Pracha Chuen is plenty good enough for me.  

In fact, considering the example on the stained 4 leg table, Homepro's promotion price of baht 2000 is  less than cost of lumber if you do it yourself.  It's the psychic pleasure of doing the table yourself in exactly the size and shape you want that can't be valued in money.

[RubbaJohnny]

astral, on 2006-06-15 20:26:10, said:

Just a thought.

Do you need a Work Permit to do-it-yourself??

I usually get a Thai lady to use one hand for extra insurance.Never fails LOL

[GungaDin]

Bang Po furniture / woodwork area?

Could someone give me a Google map location for this mysterious area?

Am I near with this ?  13.8174N 100.5331E

Please, no directions, just a Lat & Long reference.

Thanks.

Edited by GungaDin, 2009-03-25 08:42:35.

[phaethon]

tangoll, on 2006-06-15 22:24:07, said:

Hope I can get into my apartment later this year...

You'll have to hire one of those Thai door openers they have at Robinson's.

[Gippy]

GungaDin, on 2009-03-25 08:34:42, said:

Bang Po furniture / woodwork area?

Could someone give me a Google map location for this mysterious area?

Am I near with this ?  13.8174N 100.5331E

Please, no directions, just a Lat & Long reference.

Thanks.

It's Soi Pracha Rat 24, you were close but it's more like 13.809210N 100.522617E

[GungaDin]

Gippy,

just what I wanted.

Many thanks.

[GungaDin]

phaethon, on 2009-03-25 09:26:55, said:

tangoll, on 2006-06-15 22:24:07, said:

Hope I can get into my apartment later this year...

You'll have to hire one of those Thai door openers they have at Robinson's.

His skeleton was found outside his door.
Police said it been there since June 2006.

[frenchFARANGbkk]

ColPyat, on 2006-06-16 11:56:37, said:

The Skipper, on 2006-06-16 06:38:16, said:

Go to Bang Po / Soi Furniture.
Wood, tools, sandpaper, fasteners, finish. Everything you need.
Also lots of pre made and made to order furniture.

In Thai it's called "Thanon Sai Mai" (or Soi Wat Batcha, i believe is the official name), runs between Pracharat Rd. (extension of Samsen Rd.) and Thanon Krunkthep - Non. (Bangkok - Nonthaburi Rd. ). Easiest access is from Bangsue railway station.
It's the place in Bangkok for anything regarding woodwork. Toolshops, Wood in all quantities and qualities. It's a Soi about a kilometer or two long, with hundreds of shops dealing in wood related businesses.

Hello,

Any map available ?

Thank you.