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#1 Jonathan Fairfield

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:10:05

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Thailand Immigration confirms new overstay rules are now official

 

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BANGKOK: The website of the Immigration Bureau in Bangkok has today (22nd July 2014) posted a new announcement regarding its rules for overstay.

 

Today’s announcement is further confirmation on the proposed crackdown on foreigners overstaying in Thailand, which Thaivisa.com published earlier this month.

 

The announcement which is written in both English and Thai details the penalties for overstay as follows:

 

Warning !

The aliens who violate The Immigration Act, B.E.2522 by overstaying more than 90 days in the Kingdom of Thailand will be forbidden from re-entering the kingdom for a certain period of time as follow ;

 

Overstay more than 90 days forbidden 1 year

Overstay more than 1 year forbidden 3 years

Overstay more than 3 years forbidden 5 years

Overstay more than 5 years forbidden 10 years

 

In the case that alien is being apprehended

Overstay less than 1 year forbidden 5 years

Overstay more than 1 years forbidden 10 years

 

 

It should also be noted that today’s new rules as detailed above confirms the removal of the proposed lifetime ban for overstaying 10 years or more, which Thaivisa.com informed its members of on Sunday 20th July 2014, following the announcement of longer visa exemptions from next month.

 

The announcement on the Immigration website can be found here.

 


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#2 robblok

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:11:48

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Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 



#3 Mario2008

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:15:49

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Normally immigration will not check on the way to the airport. But I suspect that if they see that you have a ticket out and plan to leave and deal with the overstay they will just allow you to go to the airport.

 

Deportation would be a lot of unnesecarry paperwork.



#4 iancnx

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:17:25

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 


I suspect common sense would prevail... One would hope..... In that, if the overstayer was in possession of luggage and an in-date flight ticket out, then they would be allowed to proceed to airport immigration.

#5 NamKangMan

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:26:28

 

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 


I suspect common sense would prevail... One would hope..... In that, if the overstayer was in possession of luggage and an in-date flight ticket out, then they would be allowed to proceed to airport immigration.

 

 

The document sets out different punishments for simply overstaying, and overstaying and being apprehended.

 

However, aren't you, technically, apprehended at the airport, by way of handing yourself in?

 

Sure, they will let you pay the fine and fly out, but wouldn't they also forbid you from entering Thailand for 1 year?



#6 7777777

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:26:34

None of this is retroactive is it? I mean I did have a 3 year overstay a couple of years ago.....I am going to Laos tonite for a non O based on being a father...... 



#7 noitom

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:27:07

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Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 


I suspect common sense would prevail... One would hope..... In that, if the overstayer was in possession of luggage and an in-date flight ticket out, then they would be allowed to proceed to airport immigration.

 

Common sense , in Thailand?



#8 mrtoad

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:27:50

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 

Think that secenario is unlikely, however there has alwys been a different rule applied to those that are apprehended.

 

Am Imagining it, or was there some years back regular shake downs around Phuket for just that scenario?



#9 stephenwithaph

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:31:13

Official but starting from when ! or does official mean as of now


Edited by stephenwithaph, 2014-07-22 10:37:37.


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Posted 2014-07-22 10:40:32

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Official but starting from when !

 

It doesn't say. But normally it means it will be in effect right now (or very, very soon).Comming days will tell, but we alsready heard about people being denied back in the country because of overstay.

 

I would say, if you are on overstay deal with it right now before you get into much more problems.



#11 Mario2008

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:47:24

 

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 

Where does it say in the warning that 10 days overstay won't be allowed into Thailand for 5 years?

Am I missing something? .. or are you.

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If on the road you are checked, it means you are apprehended, which means a 5 year ban if less than 1 year overstay.

 

Only when you report yourself to immigration is there a lenient period of 90 days without a ban.



#12 Rorri

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:47:26


I seem to have missed it myself....



#13 stephenwithaph

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:47:54

 

Official but starting from when !

 

It doesn't say. But normally it means it will be in effect right now (or very, very soon).Comming days will tell, but we alsready heard about people being denied back in the country because of overstay.

 

I would say, if you are on overstay deal with it right now before you get into much more problems.

 

 

Looks like they mean from now then, especially if people are already being denied.

 

Now i feel bad because i just advised someone i know in BKK to book a flight and go quick, like on Friday. If they are blacklisted then that will be bad.

 

I agree these new rules are good and welcome them but if in force as of today they will only deter future overstay people, not current. If someone is on an overstay of over 90 days now and they see this news then whats the point in going. They may aswell just stay and plan for a new life somewhere else in the expectation of being blacklisted and leave just before the next level of blacklist.

 

Surely its in Thailand's interests to have an amnesty period of a few weeks which would clear out all the current overstay people, plus get a wad of cash in for the state from people who may not have left and then enforce 100% the new rules after the amnesty.

 

 



#14 gchurch259

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:49:31

You guys that overstay will not like this !!

 

I did two Border Runs to Cambodia and one to Laos in 2004 when I first arrived.now having done that paying for the trips taking away three days from doing something else I decided it was time to go about this the right way. Got a Non-Immigrate O Visa, at the end of th a year obtained a Retirement Extension which I have done every year since. Not fun and cost 4,000THB every year.

 

So, I guess there are a few reasons for Overstay (1) Too cheap to pay your dues for living here. (2) Can not afford to pay the fees (3) Just love running to the Border every month or two.

 

For what ever reason you have stiffed Thailand for the fee and they are tired. Take whatever number you want, as to how many Farang live here multiply by 1,900  or 3,800THB and you see why they want to stop it.



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Posted 2014-07-22 10:51:27

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 

 

The list of penalties is applicable only to overstayers of more then 90 days.  

 

So it should have read overstay over 90 days - 1 year - forbidden 5 years.



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Posted 2014-07-22 10:53:37

Normally immigration will not check on the way to the airport. But I suspect that if they see that you have a ticket out and plan to leave and deal with the overstay they will just allow you to go to the airport.

 

Deportation would be a lot of unnesecarry paperwork.

 

If, some how, someway, the person is stopped by the police and it is seen in their passport they have overstayed then the police can and will often enough make the arrest right there.

However , everyone knows that money talks so get ready to pay your way out of it...although it may be a heftier sum as compared to the lax rules of yester year.

Cheers



#17 samran

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Posted 2014-07-22 10:54:29

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Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 


I suspect common sense would prevail... One would hope..... In that, if the overstayer was in possession of luggage and an in-date flight ticket out, then they would be allowed to proceed to airport immigration.

 

Common sense , in Thailand?

 

Indeed. Many foreigners leave their common sense back home. Hence the need for these rules.
 



#18 kamahele

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Posted 2014-07-22 11:00:16

I just signed this document this morning. Seems perfectly fair to me. You have to overstay 3 whole months before being penalized with a 1 year penalty.



#19 terryp

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Posted 2014-07-22 11:01:07

i understand the overstay penalty's but surly there are many valid reasons that need to be investigated, I think people being too lazy or runaways are basically a very minute amount

 

 

 

Also if immigration are monitoring these websites ..here a suggestion after my visit to immigration yesterday

 

WE ARE CUSTOMERS ...SO TREAT US WITH RESPECT...I was treated with contempt yesterday and my questions were more of an irritation to the officer he was more interested in trying to rip my passport apart....all I wanted to know what they exactly required for a 1 year extension of stay,,,,,,,,,i was the only CUSTOMER in there and 12 officers sitting looking bored.....

 

Thai Visa should start a link...GOOD AND BAD OF THAI IMMIGRATION



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Posted 2014-07-22 11:03:46

They are tuff new regulations , This could do more harm than good .



#21 ubonjoe

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Posted 2014-07-22 11:06:59

However, aren't you, technically, apprehended at the airport, by way of handing yourself in?
 
Sure, they will let you pay the fine and fly out, but wouldn't they also forbid you from entering Thailand for 1 year?

Going to airport with the intention of leaving in no way could be considered being apprehended..

The over 90 days rule will be the same at the airport meaning you would be banned for a year for more than 90 days.



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Posted 2014-07-22 11:07:20

i understand the overstay penalty's but surly there are many valid reasons that need to be investigated, I think people being too lazy or runaways are basically a very minute amount

 

 

 

Also if immigration are monitoring these websites ..here a suggestion after my visit to immigration yesterday

 

WE ARE CUSTOMERS ...SO TREAT US WITH RESPECT...I was treated with contempt yesterday and my questions were more of an irritation to the officer he was more interested in trying to rip my passport apart....all I wanted to know what they exactly required for a 1 year extension of stay,,,,,,,,,i was the only CUSTOMER in there and 12 officers sitting looking bored.....

 

Thai Visa should start a link...GOOD AND BAD OF THAI IMMIGRATION

 

Above is one of the reasons I will continue on Multi 0 as long as I possibly can.



#23 Mario2008

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Posted 2014-07-22 11:08:05

 

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 

 

The list of penalties is applicable only to overstayers of more then 90 days.  

 

So it should have read overstay over 90 days - 1 year - forbidden 5 years.

 

 

Read again. The rules make a distinction between reporting yourself at the border or immirgaiton office and being found out as having an overstay during a check.

If you don't report yourself, it is a ban even if it is less than 90 days.



#24 CraigSchuler

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Posted 2014-07-22 11:15:35

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Wonder if the bride business will pick up?

 

 



#25 chooka

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Posted 2014-07-22 11:18:09

 

 

Does seem a bit harsh on those that get apprehended on the way to the airport with say 10 days of overstay and wont be allowed into Thailand for 5 years. 


I suspect common sense would prevail... One would hope..... In that, if the overstayer was in possession of luggage and an in-date flight ticket out, then they would be allowed to proceed to airport immigration.

 

 

The document sets out different punishments for simply overstaying, and overstaying and being apprehended.

 

However, aren't you, technically, apprehended at the airport, by way of handing yourself in?

 

Sure, they will let you pay the fine and fly out, but wouldn't they also forbid you from entering Thailand for 1 year?

 

I may be wrong but I think the apprehension thing would refer to say, you step on your dick in some way and the police get involved and after checking find that you have over stayed ie involved in a bar fight or have a motor vehicle collision and come to their attention.  Quite a lot of foreigners get caught this way.







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