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#5876
carmine
Titanium Member Posted 2012-02-09 15:54:44
Is Lennon back for Newcastle? So getting back to more mundane matters...will our manager be able to select him on the right wing on Saturday? I thought it was fairly obvious smokes that by the lack of replies we don't know the answer to your question. 
#5877
smokie36
Star Member Posted 2012-02-09 15:56:44
Is Lennon back for Newcastle? So getting back to more mundane matters...will our manager be able to select him on the right wing on Saturday? I thought it was fairly obvious smokes that by the lack of replies we don't know the answer to your question. I knew that. I'm just bored with the whole 'Arry circus... #5878
carmine
Titanium Member Posted 2012-02-09 16:00:19
Is Lennon back for Newcastle? So getting back to more mundane matters...will our manager be able to select him on the right wing on Saturday? I thought it was fairly obvious smokes that by the lack of replies we don't know the answer to your question. I knew that. I'm just bored with the whole 'Arry circus... Well i'm afraid they'll be no avoiding it. Its certainly going to do us no favours. I grimaced when i heard capello had gone and the Redknapp speculation is not going to help us one bit #5879
MrRed
Red Shirt Posted 2012-02-09 16:09:18
Another good excuse though eh carms
#5880
smokie36
Star Member Posted 2012-02-09 16:10:16
Well i'm afraid they'll be no avoiding it. Its certainly going to do us no favours. I grimaced when i heard capello had gone and the Redknapp speculation is not going to help us one bit Tim effing Sherwood. Give Abrak a slap for that one. Can't see him leaving until the end of the season so there's time yet at least to find a decent replacement. #5881
carmine
Titanium Member Posted 2012-02-09 16:11:23
Another good excuse though eh carms If its an excuse then its a very viable one! #5882
Abrak
Platinum Member Posted 2012-02-09 16:58:44
BTW what is exactly the next level? I mean you are 3rd whilst spending approximately half what the two teams in front of you do? I mean I am sure that Mancini claims he has taken City to the next level but we all know it is Mansour who did it? Once you have qualified for CL, is the job of the next manager to win it? Because it is a bit unfair to expect that with a half/third of the resources of your competitors? The next level would be slightly better than we are now. Simple as that. (If that meant getting to the semis or even a repeat of our last CL campaign then great.) You talk about money like its the be all and end all but i seem to remember Porto winning it not so long ago, not that i'm for a minute suggesting we will btw. However, Porto won the CL back in 2004/05 which is a long time ago. They also enjoy a rather unique position in the EC in that they allow 3rd party ownership which reduces their acquisition costs, wages and boosts their player related profits. That is why they have say made something like 160m in player sales profits in the last 5 years which is in fact higher than their amortized acquisition costs, which is 500m better than Chelsea. And at the end of the day money is the be all and end all. I can 100% guarantee that if you give me enough money I can win the league. If you claim I cannot because you understand tactics, strategy, you have the better players, your players gel together better etc, etc , etc, you are simply wrong. My resources are infinite while yours are not. I am not trying to take the piss. Aston Villa achieved temporary success by destroying their business model etc. So I can guarantee you it is incredibly easy to achieve sporting success in football with enough money. It is incredibly hard to achieve sporting success in football without it. So while you all go on about how well a club is doing in a sporting sense, it really doesnt matter to me because it is simply a function of money. To me say there should really be a limit for City in how much they think they can lose to win the EPL. If you happen to take the opposite view - which is that it doesnt actually how much you lose to win the EPL - as long as you win it (you should at least understand it is a silver cup). So I dont believe money is the be and end all, it is fairly fungible - but winning say the EPL a silver cup - must actually have a value that is inherently limited. (Incidentally, I know it is worth quite a lot, I also know I have no idea its exact value but to say its value is in excess of say 400m quid in a single year I think is very brave.) #5883
Abrak
Platinum Member Posted 2012-02-09 17:45:44
Sorry for the previous long post.
What I was actually asking was if you were in Levy's shoes and Harry was to leave who would you appoint as manager? The Mourinho odds etc were merely an indication of how other people felt the likely outcome would be. And my point about Ancelotti is that while you might like him he would seem unlikely to leave such a plum job. #5884
smokie36
Star Member Posted 2012-02-09 18:21:09
Sorry for the previous long post. What I was actually asking was if you were in Levy's shoes and Harry was to leave who would you appoint as manager? The Mourinho odds etc were merely an indication of how other people felt the likely outcome would be. And my point about Ancelotti is that while you might like him he would seem unlikely to leave such a plum job. I think the short answer is none of the above. If Redknapp takes the England job he won't leave until May so Levy should be taking his time over it. I'll reiterate...no one on that shortlist in my opinion. #5885
Abrak
Platinum Member Posted 2012-02-09 20:27:46
Sorry for the previous long post. What I was actually asking was if you were in Levy's shoes and Harry was to leave who would you appoint as manager? The Mourinho odds etc were merely an indication of how other people felt the likely outcome would be. And my point about Ancelotti is that while you might like him he would seem unlikely to leave such a plum job. I think the short answer is none of the above. If Redknapp takes the England job he won't leave until May so Levy should be taking his time over it. I'll reiterate...no one on that shortlist in my opinion. But the reason I am asking is because it is a difficult question. Namely Levy will have to appoint someone. So the answer that given the choices available I wont choose anyone isnt very helpful. Funnily enough you guys have been a bit anti Redknapp because you think you can do 'better'. Now that the decision has to be made it seems there is nobody obviously available that can actually do better. When I say obvious I think that Coyle Lambert, Rodgers, Moyes are all good managers. And then there are the likes of Benitez and Deschamps. So you really dont need to reiterate that Harry wasnt much good in the first place and all the alternatives are crap. (I also fully respect a view that Levy runs the shop and you dont even have a manager.) But realistically you have to appoint someone, it doesnt have to be on any shortlist but you cant choose God because that is against FA rules. #5886
carmine
Titanium Member Posted 2012-02-10 09:55:05
I have to admit i am truely taken aback at what Redknapp has achieved with regards our squad. Yes ofcourse won nothing but he's put together the best Spurs team in 30 years and i think its getting better by the game.
I still think his tactics are poor, at times appalling but his management and understanding of the players is second to none. Rosie seemed a nice dog too. As to who should take over? Talk of Ancellotti leaving PSG is folly, as is Mourinho joining us. Theres no one in the premier league i'd want at this time. Edited by carmine, 2012-02-10 09:55:35. #5887
SantiSuk
Platinum Member Posted 2012-02-10 13:16:50
All you Spuds were moaning a few weeks ago that Arry is spending all his time thinking about the Engalnd job and not enuf on Spurs. Now he says that 'he hasn't given it a lot of thought', so you are all obviously very bad judges of character.
#5888
smokie36
Star Member Posted 2012-02-10 13:51:21
All you Spuds were moaning a few weeks ago that Arry is spending all his time thinking about the Engalnd job and not enuf on Spurs. Now he says that 'he hasn't given it a lot of thought', so you are all obviously very bad judges of character. The man's a saint. #5889
rijit
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-10 18:04:07
Sorry for the previous long post. What I was actually asking was if you were in Levy's shoes and Harry was to leave who would you appoint as manager? The Mourinho odds etc were merely an indication of how other people felt the likely outcome would be. And my point about Ancelotti is that while you might like him he would seem unlikely to leave such a plum job. I think the short answer is none of the above. If Redknapp takes the England job he won't leave until May so Levy should be taking his time over it. I'll reiterate...no one on that shortlist in my opinion. No one's mentioned capello, crap international tournament manager but we will struggle to find a more successful club manager without current work!!, so no expensive contract to buy out and i'm sure levy will abso luv that. And would you like to bet against him doing a good job? #5891
MiG16
MiG is not 16. just a very sophisticated intelligent robot Posted 2012-02-10 18:55:08
All you Spuds were moaning a few weeks ago that Arry is spending all his time thinking about the Engalnd job and not enuf on Spurs. Now he says that 'he hasn't given it a lot of thought', so you are all obviously very bad judges of character. The man's a saint. so do you want to get rid of him or do u want him to stay..... #5892
smokie36
Star Member Posted 2012-02-10 20:08:11
All you Spuds were moaning a few weeks ago that Arry is spending all his time thinking about the Engalnd job and not enuf on Spurs. Now he says that 'he hasn't given it a lot of thought', so you are all obviously very bad judges of character. The man's a saint. so do you want to get rid of him or do u want him to stay..... Given we're playing great football and sitting third I doubt any of us would want to sack him. I think that answers your question. #5893
katana
Super Member Posted 2012-02-10 23:04:07
Before the trial verdict, you feigned nonchalance as to whether he stayed or not. Now he got off, you want him to stay.
...were not that interested. If he's guilty, he;s doing bird. If not he'll be back on the Spurs bench in a couple of weeks. ... Managers come and go...just ask Real Madrid supporters. #5894
rijit
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-11 00:22:49
Another good excuse though eh carms Lets see how smug you are when ferguson finally retires. #5895
smokie36
Star Member Posted 2012-02-11 01:47:41
Before the trial verdict, you feigned nonchalance as to whether he stayed or not. Now he got off, you want him to stay. Its an interesting position Katana because its mostly out of Tottenham's hands. If he wants to take the England job if offered then he will. All I'm saying is what club wouldn't want to keep a manager who has the team playing well? Change for its own sake when there are no obvious replacement candidates as good or better is just plain stupid. #5896
katana
Super Member Posted 2012-02-11 04:58:04
Fair point. He's a good manager.
#5897
Siam Simon
Super Member Posted 2012-02-11 05:07:32
Anyway, looks like Dodgy Harry's offski. Sandbank's an expensive place. Wonder if he'll get anything like the 120k a week of his predecessor?
#5898
MrRed
Red Shirt Posted 2012-02-11 10:05:44
Another good excuse though eh carms Lets see how smug you are when ferguson finally retires. I know,it will be like losing my great grandfather. #5899
Devil
Super Member Posted 2012-02-12 01:54:34
Making it look to easy tonight - 5-0 and only 64 mins...
#5900
MrRed
Red Shirt Posted 2012-02-12 01:57:22
Making it look to easy tonight - 5-0 and only 64 mins... bastiens of ...... |
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