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Posted 2007-05-15 08:15:04
 Mr_Dave, on 2007-05-15 03:41:04, said:
Here is yet another vote for Sunrise.
I was there for supper tonight.
My first time.
The food was so good, I took home some carryout for lunch tomorrow. _ 
But it didn't last that long.
All gone now. _ 
For you Mexican food fans, I will start with one observation which you'll appreciate.
They make their own tortillas.
You can see them doing it, on the counter behind the food line.
They have a real tortilla press and they heat the fresh tortillas on a griddle.
Got the picture?
The owner said they grind their own corn masa.
I didn't see it, but I believe it.
Where else in Thailand do you get honest, fresh, home-made, tortillas?
Yes, I met Greg, the owner.
He politely introduced himself, and his wife, and "May" the waitress mentioned in previous posts here.
Greg carefully explained how the menu worked -- you order exactly what you want at steps 1-2-3.
I never got attention like that at any restaurant "back home".
There all we got was, "welcome_ta_taco_time_take_ya_orda_pleezz".
I ordered three crispy tacos with ground beef.
For 117 baht it is an amazingly good value.
They are not the biggest tacos in the world.
For that price they couldn't be.
If you want more food, order more food.
I did.
The ground beef was a suitable amount for the size of the taco.
The lettuce was fresh and crisp.
I ordered cheese AND sour cream AND guacamole, and didn't hesitate to pay a few baht for extras. _ 
But the salsa choice was difficult.
That involved a four-way consultation among myself, the owner, his wife, and waitress "May".
I decided on the mango salsa, and a delicious choice that turned out to be.
I did have one taco with the ordinary, fresh tomato salsa.
That was pleasant, and I would have been satisfied, IF I had not tasted the mango salsa.
Next time I will order extra mango salsa, perhaps an extra liter as a side dish. _ 
On the subject of portion size, this is a fast-food place, with fast-food prices.
Only a fool would expect huge portions at those prices. _ 
The value at Sunrise is in the quality, not the quantity.
Next time, if I'm really hungry, I'll just order another order of something.
I took home an order of Carne Asada -- marinated, grilled steak.
It was far better quality of steak than I expected at that price: 169 baht.
It comes with beans and rice and salsa and chips.
I also took home an order of guacamole and more chips.
The guacamole is definitely homemade and obviously mashed by hand.
So many places serve a tasteless green goop and try to pass it off as guacamole.
At Sunrise it's honest avocados.
99 baht for a small, but reasonable, portion.
The items I tasted at Sunrise were full of flavor, but not full of hot chilis.
That's exactly the way I like it.
Those who require lots of hot chilis might be disappointed.
Perhaps the red hot salsa will help, I don't know.
Sunrise is easy find:
BTS skytrain to Asoke, trundle down the steps, and you're almost there.
Exit BTS-Asoke, on the South side, nearest the Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit hotel.
Walk about 50 meters West -- pass Times Square shopping center -- to the parking lot in front of "Leader Price" store.
Sunrise is on the East side, your left side as you walk toward Leader Price, opposite side of the parking lot from Pizza Company.
MRT subway station is Sukhumvit, right on the corner of Asoke.
But once you get there, don't expect much in the way of atmosphere.
It is fast food style, not fine dining.
For eating, there is a thin counter along the window, with about 8 chairs.
That's it.
This is not the place to dine and linger.
You eat and leave, or you order and take away.
In the past, I've enjoyed Mexican food from Charlie Brown's.
I've certainly enjoyed Tia Maria many times.
I've sampled -- but not enjoyed -- Senor Picos. _ 
But for the quality and the value for the money, Sunrise has now taken over my first-choice spot for Mexican in Bangkok.
I just hope they can maintain the quality. _ 
So many new, home-style places start off great ...
But, then, little by little, they trim something here, cut back something there, and within a few months, well, it's time to look for somewhere else.
Sunrise is off to a great start.
I'll watch carefully to see if they can maintain their lead.
You may wanna post your thoughts here too...
Posted 2007-05-15 14:49:49
Went to Taco Loco on Silom today. Great guys from California. Good prices, generous portions, well above average taste-wise, friendly, clean joint. They don't have a super-duper hot sauce though. Opens late too. Nice thing is that it's in a food-court so if you have friends that don't want to eat fast-Cali-Mexican, there are plenty of other options.
Posted 2007-05-15 18:27:37
Mr_Dave, on 2007-05-14 20:41:04, said: Here is yet another vote for Sunrise.
I was there for supper tonight.
My first time.
The food was so good, I took home some carryout for lunch tomorrow. _
But it didn't last that long.
All gone now. _
For you Mexican food fans, I will start with one observation which you'll appreciate.
They make their own tortillas.
You can see them doing it, on the counter behind the food line.
They have a real tortilla press and they heat the fresh tortillas on a griddle.
Got the picture?
The owner said they grind their own corn masa.
I didn't see it, but I believe it.
Where else in Thailand do you get honest, fresh, home-made, tortillas?
Yes, I met Greg, the owner.
He politely introduced himself, and his wife, and "May" the waitress mentioned in previous posts here.
Greg carefully explained how the menu worked -- you order exactly what you want at steps 1-2-3.
I never got attention like that at any restaurant "back home".
There all we got was, "welcome_ta_taco_time_take_ya_orda_pleezz".
I ordered three crispy tacos with ground beef.
For 117 baht it is an amazingly good value.
They are not the biggest tacos in the world.
For that price they couldn't be.
If you want more food, order more food.
I did.
The ground beef was a suitable amount for the size of the taco.
The lettuce was fresh and crisp.
I ordered cheese AND sour cream AND guacamole, and didn't hesitate to pay a few baht for extras. _
But the salsa choice was difficult.
That involved a four-way consultation among myself, the owner, his wife, and waitress "May".
I decided on the mango salsa, and a delicious choice that turned out to be.
I did have one taco with the ordinary, fresh tomato salsa.
That was pleasant, and I would have been satisfied, IF I had not tasted the mango salsa.
Next time I will order extra mango salsa, perhaps an extra liter as a side dish. _
On the subject of portion size, this is a fast-food place, with fast-food prices.
Only a fool would expect huge portions at those prices. _
The value at Sunrise is in the quality, not the quantity.
Next time, if I'm really hungry, I'll just order another order of something.
I took home an order of Carne Asada -- marinated, grilled steak.
It was far better quality of steak than I expected at that price: 169 baht.
It comes with beans and rice and salsa and chips.
I also took home an order of guacamole and more chips.
The guacamole is definitely homemade and obviously mashed by hand.
So many places serve a tasteless green goop and try to pass it off as guacamole.
At Sunrise it's honest avocados.
99 baht for a small, but reasonable, portion.
The items I tasted at Sunrise were full of flavor, but not full of hot chilis.
That's exactly the way I like it.
Those who require lots of hot chilis might be disappointed.
Perhaps the red hot salsa will help, I don't know.
Sunrise is easy find:
BTS skytrain to Asoke, trundle down the steps, and you're almost there.
Exit BTS-Asoke, on the South side, nearest the Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit hotel.
Walk about 50 meters West -- pass Times Square shopping center -- to the parking lot in front of "Leader Price" store.
Sunrise is on the East side, your left side as you walk toward Leader Price, opposite side of the parking lot from Pizza Company.
MRT subway station is Sukhumvit, right on the corner of Asoke.
But once you get there, don't expect much in the way of atmosphere.
It is fast food style, not fine dining.
For eating, there is a thin counter along the window, with about 8 chairs.
That's it.
This is not the place to dine and linger.
You eat and leave, or you order and take away.
In the past, I've enjoyed Mexican food from Charlie Brown's.
I've certainly enjoyed Tia Maria many times.
I've sampled -- but not enjoyed -- Senor Picos. _
But for the quality and the value for the money, Sunrise has now taken over my first-choice spot for Mexican in Bangkok.
I just hope they can maintain the quality. _
So many new, home-style places start off great ...
But, then, little by little, they trim something here, cut back something there, and within a few months, well, it's time to look for somewhere else.
Sunrise is off to a great start.
I'll watch carefully to see if they can maintain their lead.
Thank you for sharing.
I love the Mango Salsa as well, could eat it for dinner by itself. :-)
As long as I'm alive, the quality will be maintained. You are right, the reason why a number of restaurants become two month wonders is they let the standards dip and they work less. Not going to happen on my watch, I have too much passion and love of food to let it slip.
www.sunrisetacos.com
Posted 2007-05-16 01:05:17
Greg of Sunrise
You have seen me in there many times, keep up the good work but will not comment yet on quality as it generally takes 5-6 months for a restuarant to hit its stride
Posted 2007-05-16 01:19:21
Mr. Greg,
I will be visiting within the next few weeks. Looking forward to it. Your attitude about food quality and focus on customer satisfaction is wonderful. Wishing you much success and eventual expansion to Pattaya, etc. I wonder if there is some way for you to get the word out to the Thai language press, or at least the Bangkok Post, so they might do a food review? I would like to see appreciation for good Mexican food to be promoted to Thai people. So many think they don't like it, yet don't know what it is from trying bad examples.
Edited by Jingthing, 2007-05-16 01:19:46.
Posted 2007-05-16 08:07:08
Had some very good tacos at the Food Loft, Central Chitlom yesterday.
The Cucina will only be operating there till the end of the month. They are caterers and have a demo kitchen set up this month.
Very tasty.
Tomorrw, I try the shop on Silom.
Foodland, by the way, carries tortillas, salsas, cheese so easy to make it at home too.
Posted 2007-05-16 08:23:29
Macx, on 2007-05-15 14:49:49, said: Went to Taco Loco on Silom today. Great guys from California. Good prices, generous portions, well above average taste-wise, friendly, clean joint. They don't have a super-duper hot sauce though. Opens late too. Nice thing is that it's in a food-court so if you have friends that don't want to eat fast-Cali-Mexican, there are plenty of other options.
Where on Silom?
Posted 2007-05-16 08:28:56
MickeyM, on 2007-05-16 08:23:29, said:
Ground floor of the J-City complex. Right by Sala Daeng BTS exit 1, look for the KFC.
Posted 2007-05-16 09:15:52
Actually went to Taco Loco as well yesterday as I was having a meeting on Silom with a friend who knows one of the owners.
The 2 guys are half Thai and grew up in California but have been here many times. One of the 2 is an actor (like myself and the friend I had a meeting with) on Thai tv.
The Taco's were good at 55 baht a piece (or 99 for 2, 139 for 3), although sunrise taco's one are a bit better. There is no choice there as to what condiments you get. Still the price/quality comparison is very good imho (I would rate sunrise as excellent in price/quality comparison). If you are on Silom it is a good place to eat. They are accross from the Beirut Lebanese restaurant (also a good place to eat!!) and in the same building as the Subways on Silom. So that is 3 nice places to eat in one building.
Waerth
Posted 2007-05-16 09:21:03
WAERTH, on 2007-05-16 09:15:52, said: So that is 3 nice places to eat in one building.
4 if you count KFC!
The food court isn't bad for cheap Thai eats, it's improved a lot recently compared with when they renovated it late last year.
Posted 2007-05-16 13:02:12
Sunrise is great and i got the "Giant" burrito for extra 69 baht where the burrito is bigger and you get double meat.
However, you choose either sour cream or cheese. If you want both sour cream AND cheese, Sunrise charges an extra 29 baht.
My constructive comment:
1) If the customer is already going for the Giant, can Sunrise waive the 29 baht charge for cheese/sour cream?
2) The Giant comes out to (134 + 69) about 203 Baht. I think they'd greatly raise sales if they psychologize the Giant's price to 199 Baht all in.
Mike
Edited by junkofdavid2, 2007-05-16 13:08:10.
Posted 2007-05-16 15:07:34
junkofdavid2, on 2007-05-16 06:02:12, said: Sunrise is great and i got the "Giant" burrito for extra 69 baht where the burrito is bigger and you get double meat.
However, you choose either sour cream or cheese. If you want both sour cream AND cheese, Sunrise charges an extra 29 baht.
My constructive comment:
1) If the customer is already going for the Giant, can Sunrise waive the 29 baht charge for cheese/sour cream?
2) The Giant comes out to (134 + 69) about 203 Baht. I think they'd greatly raise sales if they psychologize the Giant's price to 199 Baht all in.
Mike
Mike,
Thanks for your comments. Waiving the 29 Baht charge would not be a problem as with the giant, you would be getting double portion of either the sour cream or cheese. In this case, you could get the regular portion of sour cream and normal portion of cheese, with no extra charge.
Quote You have seen me in there many times, keep up the good work but will not comment yet on quality as it generally takes 5-6 months for a restuarant to hit its stride Thanks for visiting us. Looking forward to your review in 6 months.
Quote Mr. Greg,
I will be visiting within the next few weeks. Looking forward to it. Your attitude about food quality and focus on customer satisfaction is wonderful. Wishing you much success and eventual expansion to Pattaya, etc. I wonder if there is some way for you to get the word out to the Thai language press, or at least the Bangkok Post, so they might do a food review? I would like to see appreciation for good Mexican food to be promoted to Thai people. So many think they don't like it, yet don't know what it is from trying bad examples.
Bangkok Post yesterday, called and said they will be doing a review. Thank you for your comments and please say "HI" if I'm in the shop.
www.sunrisetacos.com
Posted 2007-05-17 11:19:41
Well,
As my ThaiVisa moniker is best applied to this subject, I shall trundle down today and have a go.
Here's hoping
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Posted 2007-05-18 12:46:51
Hi all,
I 2nd Sunrise Tacos. I'm half Mexican, half American and can say they probably have the best Mexican Food in town, although I consider all other Mexican resturants in Bangkok middle of the road at best. However, the food at Sunrise is good and the price is right. They have something good going and I think they will make it. They also have an easy to get to location and open 24/7. I could really see people going there after going out to The Bed or Q-Bar to eat. I was very happy to see a taco place like this open up with decent Mexican food. God knows I need it after living here for 4 years. The smell is great when you walk in too, smells like home.
David
Posted 2007-05-18 13:58:36
eternalcrest, on 2007-05-18 05:46:51, said: Hi all,
I 2nd Sunrise Tacos. I'm half Mexican, half American and can say they probably have the best Mexican Food in town, although I consider all other Mexican resturants in Bangkok middle of the road at best. However, the food at Sunrise is good and the price is right. They have something good going and I think they will make it. They also have an easy to get to location and open 24/7. I could really see people going there after going out to The Bed or Q-Bar to eat. I was very happy to see a taco place like this open up with decent Mexican food. God knows I need it after living here for 4 years. The smell is great when you walk in too, smells like home.
David
David,
Thank you for your thoughts. All comments mean a lot to us, but even more if it is coming from a person with a Mexican heritage. We firmly believe at Sunrise Tacos if we can keep this group happy than the odds are higher all nationalities will enjoy our food as well.
I love the smell of freshly cooked corn tortillas as well. Alot more work than buying shells from a bag but well worth it when you get the big smile of someone who is very happy.
Regards,
Greg Lange
www.sunrisetacos.com
Posted 2007-05-19 01:11:59
Went to Taco Loco for the second time today, very good! Owned by two 1/2 Thai guys from California and actually they prepare the food, also make the salsa and refried beans in house. It is in J City mall on the street level in the back, exit from Sala Daeng Sky Train as if going to Patpong,(as if any of us do) and there it is, if driving, there is a parking lot down the alley next to the Family Mart (maybe B30/hr).
Basic food, Tacos,Burritos and Quesadillas, meats are ground beef or pork and chicken. It is in the food court so plenty of seating but also about a 6 stool bar.
The guys make the food right there and you can get what you ask for, no extra charge as far as I can see or experienced, I like less rice and more cheese in my burrito, have to pay extra at, well, you know.
As stated salsa is homemade but they do have some hot stuff in the back, more is on the way courtesy of a mother or grandmother so will be available soon, both are good and better mixed in my humble opinion.
Tortillas are from Danita's, why reinvent the wheel and make your own? The topper I had was the Double Decker taco, which is where they take a soft warmed flour tortilla, spread it with refried beans, wrap that around a hard corn tortilla and then fill it, you have to try to believe. I prefer refried beans in my Mexican food.
One of the guys grew up in East Los Angeles so needed no research on the subject, the other is from N. Calif so understands as well. Simple Mexican taco stand food is not brain surgery, just do it right, they do.
The two LK's (Luk Kruengs) are also very nice and personable and a good and interesting chat.
Good start for them and will be interesting to see them vs. Sunrise, I hope they both bloom!
Edited by jEFFREYk44, 2007-05-19 01:25:29.
Posted 2007-05-19 11:28:49
ilyushin, on 2007-05-18 14:35:49, said: There are no good Mexican restaurants in Thailand. This is about the best Tex Mex fix you can get. Tex Mex Menu
Rubbish. When in Chiang Mai try Miguels. You WILL be surprised. 
Posted 2007-05-19 16:11:57
Austhaied, on 2007-05-19 11:28:49, said: ilyushin, on 2007-05-18 14:35:49, said: There are no good Mexican restaurants in Thailand. This is about the best Tex Mex fix you can get. Tex Mex Menu
Rubbish. When in Chiang Mai try Miguels. You WILL be surprised.
When in CM near Miguels. hel_l’s Kitchen Afro American Style Bar-B-Que, 70/19 Chaiyaphum Road, T. Chang Moi, Muang Chiang Mai. Open every day from 11 a.m. until 10 p.m. Open until midnight after June 1. Telephone 053-232-195, 04-732-7159. Take out and delivery in the neighborhood available. Proceed on Chaiyaphum Road. Just after Miguel’s Mexican Restaurant, you will see a cross walk and stop light. A small parking area will be on your left, in front of a new shopping mall. Walk into the shopping mall past the Black Canyon Coffee shop, and you will spot hel_l’s Kitchen at the rear on your right. Not easy the first time, but well worth the adventure.
Posted 2007-05-20 04:05:07
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My second time to Sunrise -- lunch today.
I'm still looking for something big to complain about there
I like to complain.
Can't find anything, yet.
Ordered 3 crispy tacos -- assorted:
1 ground beef, 1 barbacoa beef, 1 chicken.
All those taco fillings I liked a lot.
A few more baht to order assorted like that, but not enough to even mention.
Would do it that way again.
Cheese only this time, instead of sour cream.
Frankly, the sour cream has very little flavor.
It's not bad, but it doesn't have much taste.
I've tried the sour cream at Bourbon Street's Mexican buffet.
Same there, too.
Today at Sunrise, I added a side order of guacamole and chips, and a side of the magnificent mango salsa.
The guac' is delicious -- fresh and homemade -- but it's a very small serving: only about 4 bites and it's gone.
The mango salsa is even more delicious and you get more for the money.
I like seeing the food being made right behind the counter.
You can see it's fresh and you can see everything is very clean.
This is the new standard for Mexican in Bangkok.
I'll be back.
Posted 2007-05-20 17:33:54
Quote Tortillas are from Danita's, why reinvent the wheel and make your own? Mediocre manufactured tortillas are a significant flaw in many Mexican restaurants. It may be a flaw that many diners won’t recognize, since they’ve never had anything but bagged tortillas. But, when we serve fresh, handmade tortillas, customers know or learn to appreciate the difference.
Recipes are always changed by chefs, that individual expression is fine. However, the tortilla is basic. It's the first thing your mouth tastes. In my opinion, it's either "homemade and fresh" or it's a Frisbee. The difference between fresh and store/factory bought is clear: our tortillas are made with L-O-V-E.
Opening a bag of tortillas from a store always brings back the days of biology class dissecting a frog in formaldehyde. Looking at the side of the bag, I can see the reason why I get that memory, it has thiamin mononiytate, riboflavin, folic acid,, niacin, soldium aluminum sulfate, calcium sulfate, monocalcium phosphate, monoglycerides, fumaric acid and L-cysteine hydrocholoride with the bleached enriched flour.
Compare this to a flour tortilla we make at Sunrise Tacos, we use all purpose flour, baking powder, water, salt and Crisco vegetable shortening (very low trans fats.)
As for the corn tortillas from a factory, you are looking at this one place that makes taco shells....niacin, iron, thiamine, riboflavin, folic acid with corn flour.
Sunrise Tacos corn tacos are made with 100% ground corn and a touch of salt, that’s it. When you open the door to our restaurant at Sunrise, you can smell the 100% ground corn freshly cooked tortilla. There is nothing quite like it.
Is it easier to buy the tortilla at a factory? Absolutely. However, open a package of tortillas from a factory and then understand why I rather close the Sunrise Tacos restaurant than ever serve factory tortillas to our customers.
Fortunately many of our customers know the difference and their smile is why I love being at my restaurant.
Quote Good start for them and will be interesting to see them vs. Sunrise, I hope they both bloom!
A week or son ago, a poster sent me a PM “warning” me a competitor was opening. I really was then and am still quite happy. The more Mexican restaurants in BKk, it’s more of a chance for the public to get introduced to Mexican cooking. I wish them the very best.
By the way, word to the wise. You like more cheese for your choice. Just ask for " more cheese please’ Please don't say the word "extra cheese" That’s a 10 Baht word for a taco to the employees. "More please" and you will get more with no extra charge.
www.sunrisetacos.com
Posted 2007-05-20 17:47:25
Mr_Dave, on 2007-05-19 21:05:07, said: .
My second time to Sunrise -- lunch today.
I'm still looking for something big to complain about there
I like to complain.
Can't find anything, yet.
Ordered 3 crispy tacos -- assorted:
1 ground beef, 1 barbacoa beef, 1 chicken.
All those taco fillings I liked a lot.
A few more baht to order assorted like that, but not enough to even mention.
Would do it that way again.
Cheese only this time, instead of sour cream.
Frankly, the sour cream has very little flavor.
It's not bad, but it doesn't have much taste.
I've tried the sour cream at Bourbon Street's Mexican buffet.
Same there, too.
Today at Sunrise, I added a side order of guacamole and chips, and a side of the magnificent mango salsa.
The guac' is delicious -- fresh and homemade -- but it's a very small serving: only about 4 bites and it's gone.
The mango salsa is even more delicious and you get more for the money.
I like seeing the food being made right behind the counter.
You can see it's fresh and you can see everything is very clean.
This is the new standard for Mexican in Bangkok.
I'll be back.
Thanks for stopping by.
Others are like you Mr_Dave. They warn me when they come in. I'm a very tough critic as all Mexican Restaurants in Bangkok are no good. They seem to be our biggest fans after eating at our Mexican Taco Shop. A very famous local author the other day, came in with that warning" Mexican sucks in Thailand. Everyone of them. I have tried them all" his exact words. Very happy when he took one bite and said " Now that’s perfect" He could not stop talking how great our food was.
I'll look into the sour cream. Thinking of adding a lime base to it with cilantro.
The avocados are imported from Australia. Wish we could give a bigger portion. We don’t do any short cuts with mayonnaise, sour cream, soybean filler etc. so you get the real McCoy. Still will see if we can give a bit more and still be ok on the bottom line.
Thank you very much for your comments.
www.sunrisetacos.com
Posted 2007-05-20 22:45:48
Sunrise is excellent. Really like their high quality fillings and freshly made taco shells and burritos. But yes, the staff can be quick to charge a pretty significant "extra" if you ask for more of anything, which is why i suggested that for the Giant (which I ordered), the customer should be allowed to have both sour cream and cheese and not only one of them (they were gona whop me for an extra 29 baht). It's great that they have pickled jalapenos, but the staff attending to me put extremely little and I just wasn't in the mood to "pressure" her to put more as she had already wanted to charge me extra for the cheese (which I opted not to get coz of the extra 29 baht).
Taco Loco. I tried it and it was very good, and about half the price of Sunrise. Sunrise was still better overall, but Taco Loco was still definitely good. Similar to what a previous poster said, you feel that the two Ameri-Thai guys are so focused on making the customer happy that they aren't as "quick to charge extra" as the Sunrise staff (but of course they will if you ask for too much!). They also have this double decker taco. Nope, it's not double fillings or anything like that.. but it's a double shell. The outer shell is soft and the inner one is crispy. This is great. Why? Because we all like hard crispy shell tacos, but we usually don't order it because it's messy. But with their double decker taco, you get to eat the crispy taco which doesn't "break all over you" because it's retained inside the outer soft taco. I also particularly like Taco Loco's super hot sauce (apparently available only upon request).
My verdict.
If I want a really super good taco and that night I'm willing to treat myself and spend (a lot!!!), then I'll go to Sunrise (with all the "extras" I'd like, Sunrise will probably charge me 250 baht including drink). If I want a very good taco and am on my usual daily food budget, then I'll go to Taco Loco and spend about 120 baht including drink.
I'd say Sunrise is about 85% to 90% more expensive but 35% to 40% better.
(That's not necessarily a negative comment, and may even be good; as Godiva chocolates are about 60% better than Hersheys but 500% more expensive. People who are willing to pay for luxury/quality don't do a "proportional" percentage analysis of quality and price. They are willing to pay a lot more for even just a little more quality.)
Ergo: As a Mexican food fan, I'll probably go to Sunrise for a great treat once a month and probably go to Taco Loco once or even twice a week (and incorporate it as part of my routine but delicious meals in a week)
Note: I don't think the two of them are actually "competition", because:
1) They're in different parts of town!!! (At least for now.)
2) It's like comparing Garage burger (in All Season's Place) with McDonalds. Garage burger I go once a month for a "gourmet" burger "treat", and McDonalds I go weekly for reasonably priced good quality American burgers as part of my usual (good) meals. (Yeah, I know some of you hate McDs, but I'm a self confessed McDonalds fan!!!)
Wish success to both of them!
Mike
Edited by junkofdavid2, 2007-05-20 22:47:17.
Posted 2007-05-20 23:24:05
junkofdavid2, on 2007-05-20 22:45:48, said: the customer should be allowed to have both sour cream and cheese and not only one of them (they were gona whop me for an extra 29 baht).
Last time I had a giant burrito as Sunrise I had sour cream and cheese at no extra cost - and in fact, I didn't even think about asking for this but it was suggested by the staff and I thought it was a good idea and went for it.
Pretty much agree with your assessment and comparison of Loco and Sunrise by the way. And I'm a fan of that double decker too!
Posted 2007-05-21 00:05:26
I tried Garage but ordered Meat Loaf the first time, had one of those bogus hot dogs cooked in it, not comfort food in the least
Back to Mexican:
Mike, you failed to mention that at Taco Loco there are refried beans between the flour and corn tortilla, keeps them together like one shell
Both are the best in Bkk, just apples and oranges
Edited by jEFFREYk44, 2007-05-21 00:30:21.
Posted 2007-05-21 07:41:21
Quote Sunrise is excellent. Really like their high quality fillings and freshly made taco shells and burritos. Thanks.
Quote But yes, the staff can be quick to charge a pretty significant "extra" if you ask for more of anything, which is why i suggested that for the Giant (which I ordered), the customer should be allowed to have both sour cream and cheese and not only one of them (they were gona whop me for an extra 29 baht). It's great that they have pickled jalapenos, but the staff attending to me put extremely little and I just wasn't in the mood to "pressure" her to put more as she had already wanted to charge me extra for the cheese (which I opted not to get coz of the extra 29 baht).
We have now a order form system. Just put "more" on what ever you want more of. We only charge extra for two items... if you take both cheese and sour cream. Then its 10 Baht for a taco, 29 Baht for a burrito( unless you get the giant) and if you get the guacamole. Anything else is included in the price.
If I'm around, I'm a pretty generous guy and gave lots of free items yesterday. In fact that happens everyday when I'm there. However the staff don't have the same executive powers except for two mgrs. ( Jo Jo and Dee)
By the way, you also can get three burritos for 299 Baht ( 99 Baht each) or ten tacos for 369 Baht( 37 Baht each) Any combination.
Quote If I want a really super good taco and that night I'm willing to treat myself and spend (a lot!!!), then I'll go to Sunrise (with all the "extras" I'd like, Sunrise will probably charge me 250 baht including drink). If I want a very good taco and am on my usual daily food budget, then I'll go to Taco Loco and spend about 120 baht including drink.
Not trying to defend our price. As you stated we don't have to. Just trying to understand other prices.
Our most expensive three tacos go for 134 Baht which is the Steak or Barbacoa Beef. Add 30 Baht if you took both the sour cream and cheese on all three tacos. Heineken is 49 Baht.
If you are talking the giant burrito. Then its 18 ounces of food for around 200 Baht.
Quote I'd say Sunrise is about 85% to 90% more expensive but 35% to 40% better.
Not sure how on the more expensive of 85% -90%.
We should be around the same price or lower if you still get the lettuce, choice of salsa, jalapenos, onions, tomatoes and one choice of sour cream or cheese. This is included for the 39 Baht taco. Ground Beef or Chicken option of three tacos is 117 Baht.
Still compared to 280 Baht for two tacos at a number of Mexican restaurants in town, on price we still look pretty good.
Then on margaritas for a one liter pitcher its 399 Baht compared to 780 Baht + at most places. Get the margarita by the yard and you get to keep the glass. No Vat or service charge as well. I'm proud of the low prices we charge for our quality. Just trying to understand other prices. Thanks.
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