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#1 ubonjoe

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Posted 2016-01-12 08:34:23

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First official confirmation from Immigration on new overstay rules

 

I have been informed that the rules will go into effect on March 20th,

 

 

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                       Download the order of Minister of Interior No.1/2558 Click here

           คลิก อ่านภาษาไทย หรือดูรายละเอียด คำสั่งรัฐมนตรีว่าการกระทรวงมหาดไทย ที่ 1/2558

http://bangkok.immig...up_anounce.html

 

Also this.

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#2 elviajero

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Posted 2016-01-12 08:54:16

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So it doesn't look like there is a 90 day grace period for those arrested. Caught with a 1 day overstay and it's a 5 year ban!



#3 Eclipse

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Posted 2016-01-12 08:57:20

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About time.

At least we now have an official ruling on kids overstaying.


Edited by Eclipse, 2016-01-12 08:59:16.


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Posted 2016-01-12 09:22:30

Come 20 Mar 16 the bell will toll for overstayers with over a 90 days overstay for those who surrender themselves, but for those who get arrested it appears there is no 90 day grace period if I'm reading the announcement right.  

 

If I was an overstayer of over 90 days I would definitely exit Thailand before the rules go into effect 20 Mar 16 in order to avoid a long ban on reentry.  Get legal on your stay or possibly say goodbye to Thailand for a year (or many more depending on overstay length) once identified as an overstayer.

 

Actually, I'm somewhat surprised the govt is actually putting it into effect but it does appear it's going into effect 20 Mar 16.


Edited by Pib, 2016-01-12 09:26:01.


#5 MYKTHEMIN

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Posted 2016-01-12 09:27:50

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Good about time.



#6 rhodie

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Posted 2016-01-12 09:44:26

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So, I have been here 10 years legally and I miscalculate my dates and I am stopped and arrested a few days over. Automatic 5 year ban. Wow a bit harsh but TIT. whistling.gif



#7 TheAppletons

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Posted 2016-01-12 09:47:48

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So, I have been here 10 years legally and I miscalculate my dates and I am stopped and arrested a few days over. Automatic 5 year ban. Wow a bit harsh but TIT. whistling.gif

 

  Arrested and prosecuted is what it says.  Doesn't seem harsh to me that they'd want to ban criminals from the country.  



#8 gk10002000

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Posted 2016-01-12 09:57:59

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So, I have been here 10 years legally and I miscalculate my dates and I am stopped and arrested a few days over. Automatic 5 year ban. Wow a bit harsh but TIT. whistling.gif

 

  Arrested and prosecuted is what it says.  Doesn't seem harsh to me that they'd want to ban criminals from the country.  

 

Yes, the key words are "arrested and prosecuted".  But as others are pointing out, a one day miscalculation could lead to a 5 year ban?  That is just wrong.  Draconian policies tend to not bother the illegals, since they are going to try and get away with it anyway, but it can really harm the general Tourist population that makes a mistake or gets a bit lax now and then.  I know I did a one day overstay in the past, and this was after 11 trips to the country.  I thought paying a nominal fine at the border was OK and I was happy to do that as I extended my trip via a border run for another 30 (29) days.  I spent a fair amount of money on that two month vacation and now after 14 trips to the country, getting threatened with these penalties is not appreciated. 



#9 Eclipse

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:02:53

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I hardly think a Tourist with one day overstay is going to be prosecuted.



#10 TheAppletons

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:10:59

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I hardly think a Tourist with one day overstay is going to be prosecuted.

 

  Exactly.  ^^^^



#11 ubonjoe

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:13:26

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When caught with overstay a judge will make the decision on the fine and the ban. That is where the prosecuted term comes into play.

I don't think they would ban a person for just a few days of overstay unless they were a repeat offender.



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Posted 2016-01-12 10:26:47

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Quite right, chuck out and ban the illegal workers as well, about time



#13 luke000

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:36:07

Has this been published in the Royal Gazette and thus making it a law?



#14 ubonjoe

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:45:07

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Has this been published in the Royal Gazette and thus making it a law?

It is a ministerial regulation not a law. The reason for it not starting until March is for the 60 day requirement from the date it was published.



#15 donsonny

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:55:57

Well, Yes, let's see what happens. Last year they made this law which should come into effect immediately. To my knowledge it has been postponed several times.



#16 Loeilad

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:57:18

So it doesn't look like there is a 90 day grace period for those arrested. Caught with a 1 day overstay and it's a 5 year ban!

That's exactly how it reads.......is there any official clarification on that? It seems a bit draconian.



#17 Loeilad

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Posted 2016-01-12 10:59:16

I hardly think a Tourist with one day overstay is going to be prosecuted.

....yes.....you'd have thought, but that's not what it says on the document



#18 ubonjoe

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:01:25

 

So it doesn't look like there is a 90 day grace period for those arrested. Caught with a 1 day overstay and it's a 5 year ban!

That's exactly how it reads.......is there any official clarification on that? It seems a bit draconian.

 

 See my post at #11.



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Posted 2016-01-12 11:07:03

So for the first 90 days of an overstay you still pay 500 baht per day, up to a max of 10,000? 



#20 papayasalad

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:21:50

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how can you miscalculate? . you email yourself the date In your passport, set alarm on Google, sent email to yourself 1 week before, repeat alarm 3 days before.
place the date on your exit door so you see it everyday.

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:23:06

 

So, I have been here 10 years legally and I miscalculate my dates and I am stopped and arrested a few days over. Automatic 5 year ban. Wow a bit harsh but TIT. whistling.gif

 
  Arrested and prosecuted is what it says.  Doesn't seem harsh to me that they'd want to ban criminals from the country.  
 
Yes, the key words are "arrested and prosecuted".  But as others are pointing out, a one day miscalculation could lead to a 5 year ban?  That is just wrong.  Draconian policies tend to not bother the illegals, since they are going to try and get away with it anyway, but it can really harm the general Tourist population that makes a mistake or gets a bit lax now and then.  I know I did a one day overstay in the past, and this was after 11 trips to the country.  I thought paying a nominal fine at the border was OK and I was happy to do that as I extended my trip via a border run for another 30 (29) days.  I spent a fair amount of money on that two month vacation and now after 14 trips to the country, getting threatened with these penalties is not appreciated. 

Wouldn't worry too much, after 14 trips I am sure you know that all is negotiable. This is just a mechanism to get rid of the real undesirables, and long time overdue.

#22 phitsanulokjohn

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:24:12

Well now it's official.The best deal on the table for all you overstayers,It's best you see them before they find you.

#23 ubonjoe

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:26:39

So for the first 90 days of an overstay you still pay 500 baht per day, up to a max of 10,000? 

It is a max fine of 20k baht not 10k if you pay the fine on departure from the country prior to the 90 day point. Get caught an it is different story.



#24 Josh88

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:29:38

 

So for the first 90 days of an overstay you still pay 500 baht per day, up to a max of 10,000? 

It is a max fine of 20k baht not 10k if you pay the fine on departure from the country prior to the 90 day point. Get caught an it is different story.

 

 

Thanks, good to know. 



#25 FritsSikkink

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Posted 2016-01-12 11:33:11

So, I have been here 10 years legally and I miscalculate my dates and I am stopped and arrested a few days over. Automatic 5 year ban. Wow a bit harsh but TIT. whistling.gif

so time to take your calculations seriously





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