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Posted 2006-10-25 08:56:40
SUVARNABHUMI AIRPORT DEFECTS FOUND
Parking bays and taxiway closed for repair
Less than a month after Suvarnabhumi airport went into full operation, three of its aircraft parking bays and a taxiway had to be closed for repair as they became uneven due to cracked tarmac. Airport general manager Somchai Sawasdeepon said yesterday that the temporary closure since Saturday was necessary at the E2, 4 and 6 parking bays and the T13 taxiway due to their uneven surface. Tarmac in those areas would be replaced before they were put back in normal service this Saturday, he said. Airport staff are investigating to find the real cause. hmmm... shoddy work with shoddy materials for more profit-making perhaps? Mr Somchai assumed that the seams between the taxiway tarmac and the adjacent parking bays may have cracked and let rainwater seep in. This may have resulted from heavy downpours, or the partial removal of flood dykes at the airport may have allowed water from a nearby canal to seep into the tarmac, Mr Somchai said. A source at the Airports of Thailand said small cracks have appeared for a length of over 100 meters along the T13 taxiway leading to the E2, 4 and 6 parking bays.
Posted 2006-10-25 11:58:09
Well the problem is : they close parking bays.
It means more planes with insane travel in bus, on arrival...
Posted 2006-10-25 12:27:39
No big deal cracks happen on newly constructed highways, buildings, condos, apartments, hospitals, etc.. all the time. Gives construction crew some work to do than to be unemployed
Posted 2006-10-25 15:13:39
Helps to dissipate any excess water during the rainy season..sort of inbuilt drainage...
just as long as the jumbo jets wheels dont get stuck in them on take off or landing .. then ...TIT ...mprai
Posted 2006-10-25 16:46:45
Because of the cracks etc ...
AOT will probably decide to land the planes at Don Muang and then carry passengers by bus to Suvarnabhumi to go thru immigrations and customs.
Posted 2006-10-25 17:17:11
.......and shop at the monopoly duty free shops, use the limited toilet facilites and haul all of them back to retrieve their luggages at Don Muang which has a better luggage conveyer belt
Posted 2006-10-25 17:17:47
Ssshhh! Don't say that! They may actually see your post and come up with it as an idea, given some of their other recent brainwaves!
Posted 2006-10-26 04:37:52
They've found cracks on another taxiway... That leads to concourse B.
Parking bays E2, 4 and 6 are closed already. Other to be closed ?
But mai pen rai, Somchai, general manager says : "'I guarantee that this will not affect service because 69 remote parking bays can be used." !
We have a super new airport... But we will have to use the remote parking bays and those bloody buses....
Posted 2006-10-26 04:59:44
Back to the cracks again??? You have to love these lads - I just pray to buddha that smth unsafe doesnt happen because of bad construction and poor design.
Posted 2006-10-26 05:06:13
Yes - I am taking off in a few hours!!!
Posted 2006-10-26 05:14:25
Paris airport roof collapse kills five.
However, cracks and falling dust had been observed just before the accident, said an airport spokesman.
Posted 2006-10-26 05:15:10
Another prime example as to why you should have a qualified person present while you home's concrete foundations are poured.
Posted 2006-10-26 08:36:53
To borrow an advertising slogan as a pun to describe the airport's woes... "When it rains, it pours"
Another taxiway has 'water infiltration'
Problems continue at Suvarnabhumi airport
Problems at Suvarnabhumi airport continue as officials have found the surface of another taxiway is uneven due to water infiltration through its cracked tarmac. Suvarnabhumi airport general manager Somchai Sawasdeepon said that more cracks and uneven spots were discovered in three places on the taxiway leading to concourse building B. The defects add to those earlier found on taxiway T13 and the E2, 4 and 6 bays which have been closed for repairs since last week.
Officials initially pointed to rainwater left on the tarmac which had gradually seeped into the cracked asphalt-paved surface as the cause of the problem. That can be repaired with new paving, Mr Somchai said ITO Joint Venture, the airport contractor, will mend the taxiways. Mr Somchai said a possible cause of the problem was that taxiways had been completed as long as two years before the airport was opened on Sept 28. After being completed, they had been left unused long enough to deteriorate, he said. Aviation Department director-general Chaisak Angkhasuwan said the cracks found did not show the airport construction was substandard. He assumed the mix of tarmac might have included water and so the surface could crack later. I'm no "tarmac expert," but that sounds contradictory, Khun Chaisak, unless it's "standard" practice to mix rainwater in when preparing the tarmac mixture.
Edited by sriracha john, 2006-10-26 08:38:39.
Posted 2006-10-26 15:46:16
Basically he is saying that:
- if the taxiway isn't used it will deteriorate in two years
- if the taxiway is used, it won't deteriorate
I love those excuses, yeah the problem is somewhere else and not in the construction....
Btw, what would happen if they have to close down a whole runway, just in time for a high season? That would halve the capacity of the airport...
Posted 2006-10-26 16:07:52
I'm sure a nearby facility could easily pick up the slack... it's been operational for years and is less than an hour away.
Chonburi Flying Club Airstrip Tower
Similiar to the new airport's claims and if I'm not mistaken, this facility has the tallest control tower of any flying club airstrip in Chonburi province.
Posted 2006-10-28 04:00:36
Believe that the back up runway is actually the top deck road of Bagna Trad..
Dont know what they would do about the tolls but if the incoming jet just held on a little bit they could just about let everyone off at Pattaya...
Save on a Taxi fares as well.....
Posted 2006-10-28 05:59:30
Well, got away OK without disappearing down any cracks...
Airport still a bloody mess...
Flight delayed loads...
Just considered, looking at your pic... How similar the Paris design is to the new airport.
Posted 2006-10-28 12:59:24
In direct conflict of what Aviation Department director-general Chaisak Angkhasuwan said earlier in this thread, some experts say otherwise. For some reason, they sound more credible:
Engineers: Cracks due to use of cheap tarmac
Engineers say swollen and cracked taxiways and parking bays at Suvarnabhumi airport are the result of the use of cheap tarmac, according to airport general manager Somchai Sawasdeepon.
Mr Somchai said engineers from the Engineering Institute of Thailand and taxiway construction supervisors inspected the airport yesterday following the discovery of two swollen and cracked taxiways and five aircraft parking bays similarly damaged to the east and west of the passenger terminal. The uneven part along an eastern taxiway is 150 metres long and its cracks are 33cm deep . All the uneven areas are closed for repairs. According to Mr Somchai, the inspection found excessive amounts of water in canals surrounding the airport protected by flood dykes. The level of water outside the dykes is normally expected to be about 80cm but at present is 150cm. The excess increases the amount of underground water beneath the airport. Also known as A SWAMP! Thus, the water has seeped upward through the 73cm-thick underneath concrete layer of the taxiways and soaked the 33cm-thick superficial asphalt layer.
Sadly continued here:
Posted 2006-10-28 16:56:02
And to think I listed a number of scenarios on another thread that meant keeping DM functioning was good crisis planning (terrorism, hijack, fire, aircraft crash) but just didn't have the foresight to think of the entire place disappearing down a hole in the ground! Silly me...
Edited by bkkandrew, 2006-10-28 16:56:53.
Posted 2006-10-28 19:47:58
Now we know wot they have done with all the missing toilet paper...
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