Yes the rip offs happen a lot on the tourist areas and from hotels, I'm not saying it's out of line, tourists have money, thats why they have holidays. Would never happen in my country by this scale though, but thats irrelevant, cos we have laws.
My point is if Thailand would like to think to develope maybe just a little bit probably to a beneficial tourist destination, on the long term, they would make laws and enforcement to make the tourists feel welcomed.
Briton Stabbed By Tuk-tuk Driver
Started by george, 2006-11-26 09:29
#227
The Skipper
Senior Member Posted 2006-11-30 06:46:51
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The guys who say you better tip the driver cos he didn't try to rip you off/ or paying 400 THB to airport! 400THB? Bargain! I recently went to meet a friends younger brother who was in Bangkok for 2 nights at the Bangkok Palace Hotel. Their taxi service to the airport was something like 850THB! For a <200B journey, and he had already paid it! It's not just the little guys that rip off naive tourists. Upon leaving I had to get past the concierge trying to get us in the hotel taxi, then outside dozens of dodgy taxi drivers trying to drag us to some dodgy rip off massage joints, until finally being able to flag down a cab on the street. If I couldn't speak Thai I don't think we'd have managed to get past them all. The guy I met had spent the previous 2 days getting completely ripped off by this lot totally oblivious to the fact. YES BANGKOK PALACE is a ripoff. Looks like things havnt changed since my brief stay there in 1991. #228
Tornado
Platinum Member Posted 2006-11-30 10:36:30
chuchok, can you sort your kiwi mates out here, they are now posting under Australian aliases... An Australian couldnt be a dumb as Australia 80 surely?
 Here's my scenerio... Welsh (another country of sheep "herders".  ) man gets into Tuk Tuk, says drive me to Royal Crown, Tuk Tuk driver says ok, they arrive, the Welsh man says thanks and hands him 120 baht, the Tuk Tuk driver says "not enough", the Welsh guy argues with him, the guy pulls out a knife and stabs him..... thats it, normal Patong day!All of the other shite on this thread, is just that, shite. He had a few drinks - big deal, why are the inbred posters here using this to boost there wacky stories.. over to the inbred for another round of wacky backy scenerios. #229
Tornado
Platinum Member Posted 2006-11-30 13:39:40
Drunken yob rips off driver, then assaults him. Driver fights back and gets charged.  Bollocks if he was drunken yob, why give him 120 bhat and not just give him a slap for his cheek. It's about time they got with the times if they were a bit nicer and more helpful they may get bigger tips. I don't be;lieve in violence for one miute but it seems to be the Thai way that they are either mob handed or tooled up. go back to where you came from if the thais are so horrible. who the fluck are you child... What is posted is fact. Have you ever had an altercation with a Thai person? They carry weapons or depend on numbers to win. Fact.. Now apologise to the forum for being a ######.
#230
chuchok
Little Member Posted 2006-11-30 13:44:43
chuchok, can you sort your kiwi mates out here, they are now posting under Australian aliases... An Australian couldnt be a dumb as Australia 80 surely? I'd give that a big yes! 
#231
candoman89
Senior Member Posted 2006-11-30 18:30:25
For the person who states that Canadians riot more than brits over football (I presume you mean soccer as real football is confined to Canada/US and some european countries that have farm teams for the National FOOTBALL League) the only reason we riot is that there is nothing on other than SOCCER and rioting breaks the boredome from this lame arse game of men in silk panties running around and falling down whenever someone gets within 5 m of them and crying until the referee (another silk pantied clad "man") informs the assaulter person that it wasn't really a penalty and no yellow card (how lame is that, why not make it pink or rainbow colored) will be issued.
#232
yimyai
Newbie Posted 2006-12-01 00:32:22
Well...I'm sure the drunken attacker deserved arrest, and I understand the driver's contempt, but you can't go back and get a knife without expecting to get arrested. The furrong should have been arrested as well. Being in Patong...he wasn't the kind of tourist that was probably there out of reverence for the Thais. Who cares about an extra 80 baht anyway...
#233
farang prince
Farang Prince Posted 2006-12-01 01:25:47
Well...I'm sure the drunken attacker deserved arrest, and I understand the driver's contempt, but you can't go back and get a knife without expecting to get arrested. The furrong should have been arrested as well. Being in Patong...he wasn't the kind of tourist that was probably there out of reverence for the Thais. Who cares about an extra 80 baht anyway... The tuk tuk driver deserved arrest and I'm sure he is going to get some prison time. Why should the farang be arrested? Unless he actually struck the tuk tuk driver, he can't be arrested for having bad manners. But the farang should consider himself to be very lucky. If he continues to act that way in Thailand, his luck will eventually run out and the next knife thrust might be his last. #234
TravelBUG
Advanced Member Posted 2006-12-08 14:19:46
Tuk-tuk driver stabs Welshman about 3:30 am Bennett, who Wisut said was drunk, began arguing about the fare, saying the normal rate was 100 baht. Bennett then took out 120 baht and threw it in his face, then began throwing punches at him, the tuk-tuk driver told police. --Phuket Gazette 2006-11-26 Yes, we do not know Bennett's side but 3:30 am Arguing about 100 baht after spending how much prior to that for his evening's activities? He had to have done some sh-t to get stabbed in front of a hotel. Drunks get into all kinds of troubles and the troubles start with them being drunk. Charging them double is compensation for the extra hastle they create. Getting stabbed was a result of his not knowing about the place/people he chose to visit or if he knew, failing to behave appropriately. I hope he recovers quickly. I beg to differ with you.... But this sounds to me as a case of a tuk tuk driver preying on a drunk guy, thinking he will get away with attempting to rip off a drunk tourist. They probably agreed on a fare, then the tuk tuk driver tried to charge him more thinking the tourist wont realise cause he was drunk. Id also like to add, the tuk tuk and taxi drivers in Phuket are a disgrace! Every price i was quoted while recently in Phuket was about 300% more than what i would pay at home in australia! I urge tourists to hire a motorbike or car for thier transport during holidays, and only use the tuk tuks and taxi's when intoxicated. When in thailand, whether its with retailers, market stalls sellers, and tuktuk/taxi's, I no longer bother bartering. Its plain exhausting, stressful and puts a dampener on the holiday! If i am presented with a ridiculous price first up, i walk away immediately. Hopefully more tourists will practice this, and maybe the thai's will learn not to try to rip us off so much! #235
TravelBUG
Advanced Member Posted 2006-12-08 14:27:24
Well...I'm sure the drunken attacker deserved arrest, and I understand the driver's contempt, but you can't go back and get a knife without expecting to get arrested. The furrong should have been arrested as well. Being in Patong...he wasn't the kind of tourist that was probably there out of reverence for the Thais. Who cares about an extra 80 baht anyway... Who cares about an extra 80 baht anyway...[i][color=#FF6666] Well, when every single driver, market stall holder, retailer taxi driver, tour operator etc etc that expects an extra 80 baht... then it does get extremely frustrating! If a driver gives me a good deal or doesnt try to rip me off from the start or doesnt try to take a detour to their friends gem/tailor shop, i give a 100 baht tip. #236
Couthy
Senior Member Posted 2006-12-09 23:14:13
Ermm......80 Baht is 3 meals + water.
And if someone threw money in my face, I would for sure deck them. Stabbing is a bit over the top though. To the Pakistani who posted earlier saying the Welsh guy should get 10 years: Presumably you have read the Quoran and practise it?. So many Muslims here and in UK scoffing whisky and shagging tarts - put your own morality in order before barking. Oh- and learn to shower not wearing your underwear, it's cleaner you see. Cheers, Couthy 
#237
Me&MrsJones
Advanced Member Posted 2006-12-12 11:21:37
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Yes, we do not know Bennett's side but 3:30 am Arguing about 100 baht after spending how much prior to that for his evening's activities? He had to have done some sh-t to get stabbed in front of a hotel. Charging them double is compensation for the extra hastle they create. Getting stabbed was a result of his not knowing about the place/people he chose to visit or if he knew, failing to behave appropriately. I hope he recovers quickly. [/quote] Arguing about 100 baht after spending how much prior to that for his evening's activities? I find this comment alarming. Can someone please tell me the relevance of the amount of money the Welshman spent prior to the stabbing? What the hel_l has that got to do with it? So what if he spent 20 baht or a million baht. This justifies his stabbing? I can hear it now at a court of law, during the case. "Oh hello my name's Relaxed Rhodri from Rhondda Valley - I spent a million baht on somtam and beer, on the night in question, your honour. Comandeered a Tuk-Tuk, got the little fellow to take me to the hotel. We agreed 100 baht, but when we arrived he tried to take advantage of me by asking for 200. I refused because i dont like to be ripped off. He stabbed me while calmly saying - syllabally synchronised to the stab thrusts, "YOU - YOU - YOU - SPEND - 1 - MILLION - baht TONIGHT......YOU - DESERVE - STAB.....YOU - BIG - MONEY.....NO GIVE I ME My SHE HE My IS FRIENDLY GO NOW.....NO GOOD MAN". "Charging them double is compensation for all the hassle they create" Charging them double is simple theft. An agreement is an agreement. If the Tuk-Tuk driver felt hassled, he could have either refused the job, given the job to his friend. The point is that an greement is an agreement. Who should pay more at the whim of the Tuk Tuk. If you buy a house, does the seller add 100% to the price because you hassled him? NO! "He had to have done some sh-t to get stabbed in front of a hotel." What sh*t are you talking about? If you mean that he defended his right to keep himself from being ripped off - i dont see that as sh*t. It's called self respect, defending oneself when trying to be ripped off. If more people did the same and had some self respect, less people would ripped off and we wouldn't have this Thai attitude here towards ripping off farangs. Your comments are very short sighted. #238
kmart
Platinum Member Posted 2006-12-12 11:59:56
Ermm......80 Baht is 3 meals + water. And if someone threw money in my face, I would for sure deck them. Stabbing is a bit over the top though. To the Pakistani who posted earlier saying the Welsh guy should get 10 years: Presumably you have read the Quoran and practise it?. So many Muslims here and in UK scoffing whisky and shagging tarts - put your own morality in order before barking. Oh- and learn to shower not wearing your underwear, it's cleaner you see. Cheers, Couthy If thats "HenryB" you're referring to, he's a troll, and about as Pakistani as I am.
#239
helicoptor
Senior Member Posted 2006-12-12 12:10:55
If the tuk tuk driver had time to run to his cab & get a knife - he had time to flee the scene. Undersized Thai escalates verbal abuse to attempted murder. 5 years sounds about right for GBH. he wont do any time me thinks |
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