Has anyone heard of any plans to develop a marina on Koh Samui?
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Marina On Samui?
Started by gazza1, 2006-11-27 15:39
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Advanced Member Posted 2006-11-27 16:38:41
Has anyone heard of any plans to develop a marina on Koh Samui? Yes, in the south near Phang Ka, but it seems that will stay a rumor for a while as there is nothing going on. I have heard of another one that's going to be finished in a couple of year which is not just a rumor. Why are you asking? #3
happy member Posted 2006-11-27 17:06:18
Pha Ngan has now got what is closest to a marina in the area, they have now almost finished building quite a large fishermans harbour in Ban Thai, that will provide all year round shelter and protection to vessels.
The locals tell me that they are very keen to atract boats to it. MM Edited by mosquitoman, 2006-11-27 17:13:13. #4
Super Member Posted 2006-11-27 17:44:54
There is no serious plan for a marina in samui, it is all hot air. Also something that property agents have taken hold of and shouted out about it to try and further their own interests. Any marina will need to be financed privately and I havn't heard of anyone serious about making such a large investment.
You can keep a small speed boat here or sailing boat, but this is not the place for larger motor yachts. There simply are not the services here on these islands. Phuket has great facilities, it would be nice to see a Marina in Samui, but i'm not holding my breath. They talk about putting the marina i the South, but the best cruising grounds are to the north west. #5
Advanced Member Posted 2006-11-27 17:51:25
Has anyone heard of any plans to develop a marina on Koh Samui? Yes, in the south near Phang Ka, but it seems that will stay a rumor for a while as there is nothing going on. I have heard of another one that's going to be finished in a couple of year which is not just a rumor. Why are you asking? Why wouldnt i be asking?! Have clients interested on the island and want to invest near a future marina, whether its 1 year or 5 years away doesnt matter to them. Also have some investors who may look into any plans for marinas. ?? #6
Super Member Posted 2006-11-29 14:00:29
At this moment of time there are no marin's planned in Samui.
There are many developers with great plans but as of today there are no marina plans approved by the Ta Saban in samui. there is also no approval from the harbor department. The reason they dont approve is that the law forbids them to approve. the new construction law defines that all the northen areas around samui are designated as green zone with no marine construction apart from public piers. As all piers in samui are by law defined as public and for public use they are built and owned by the govermant who can let private comapnies bid for a tender to run them. The southern part o the island is designated to be a marine and fishing area but the conservation act and marine police do not approve trenching and the water level is very low. As such only small piers on low water are possible if you can get the licence for them. Big size motor or sail yachts can not dock on the massive concrete piers nade by the municipality as no one will risk parking an expansive boat on such a pier. The only proper liscenced boat pier that is private is the one operated and be reconstructed by Petcherat Marina in Ban Rak that have issued a liscence for a private boat pier for speed boats and motor boats they will also have mooring boys for the larger sail boats out in the bay. At this time they are the only liscenced pier in Samui. So if any one is considering to get a house near a potential Marina the first request should be to see the building permit documents issued by the Ta saban and the harbor department. #7
Super Member Posted 2006-11-29 14:43:42
At this moment of time there are no marin's planned in Samui. There are many developers with great plans but as of today there are no marina plans approved by the Ta Saban in samui. there is also no approval from the harbor department. The reason they dont approve is that the law forbids them to approve. the new construction law defines that all the northen areas around samui are designated as green zone with no marine construction apart from public piers. As all piers in samui are by law defined as public and for public use they are built and owned by the govermant who can let private comapnies bid for a tender to run them. The southern part o the island is designated to be a marine and fishing area but the conservation act and marine police do not approve trenching and the water level is very low. As such only small piers on low water are possible if you can get the licence for them. Big size motor or sail yachts can not dock on the massive concrete piers nade by the municipality as no one will risk parking an expansive boat on such a pier. The only proper liscenced boat pier that is private is the one operated and be reconstructed by Petcherat Marina in Ban Rak that have issued a liscence for a private boat pier for speed boats and motor boats they will also have mooring boys for the larger sail boats out in the bay. At this time they are the only liscenced pier in Samui. So if any one is considering to get a house near a potential Marina the first request should be to see the building permit documents issued by the Ta saban and the harbor department. Very informative, thanks. As you say, water is very shallow in the south. I would imagine the pics in the brochure are at best extremely missleading then. Imagine how deep they will need to dig this 'marina' in order that it and the channel to the sea is deep enough during the months of the year when the water here is very low. I think it's almost impossible that yachts the size of the ones pictured in the advert will be parked outside the houses. Maybe a few smaller speedboats and thats if they can even get permission to build on the shoreline there, which sounds unlikely from highdivers post. #8
happy member Posted 2006-11-29 22:48:45
I never get the impression the property agents are really interested in the Marina, the services on offer or The Yachties etc, they like marinas more as a prop for pushing there overpriced "lifestyle" properties.
I for one would love to see a decent marina, geared up for sailors, free from glitz, which can provide services for boats at a realistic cost and not some marketing agents dream which will end up with boat owners paying exorbitant prices, for non existant services. MM #9
Senior Member Posted 2006-11-30 01:12:50
Was told 3 years ago when I bought the house in Samui that there would be a marina - mainly bar talk though
Thinking now along the lines of a trailer sailor - which can be taken out and stored on land Not sure about leaving a boat off shore! #10
Senior Member Posted 2006-12-01 15:31:32
I never get the impression the property agents are really interested in the Marina, the services on offer or The Yachties etc, they like marinas more as a prop for pushing there overpriced "lifestyle" properties. I for one would love to see a decent marina, geared up for sailors, free from glitz, which can provide services for boats at a realistic cost and not some marketing agents dream which will end up with boat owners paying exorbitant prices, for non existant services. MM I agree 100% with this - the majority of people to date have been looking at it from the perspsective of selling realestate attached to the marina as opposed to looking at it from the perspective of a boatie (and even the community which often gets lot from a well designed marina). The second issue is really just the fact that Thailand is inexperienced in marinas and boating leading to many issues. There is not a clear proces for getting approvals, the many different parties all want to believe they hold the power and therefore get the kudos (and some cash), the general population and the administrators can not visualise what a good marina can do for Samui and therefore just think that it is a way that one person is going to make heaps of money and therefore want to stop it or ensure that they get their piece of it. etc I understand that one of the better locations for a marina is between the Big Buddha and the new Pier (subject to a lot of dredging). It is sheltered, is close to the airport, chaweng, bophut and a lot of the existing houses on Samui, plus it is a good location from which to go to Phangnan, Koh Tao etc. The major issue with it is that there is not much land on which to build marina residences. All other marina related aspects could be catered for with the land that is available plus some well engineered bridges etc (and perhaps even some reclaiming using the sand being dredged up), but the two major reasons above have prevented it getting off the ground (well thats what I am assuming as I have not heard anything about it for a while... maybe it is secretly underway - anyone know anymore??) Maybe it wil take one of the residence based marinas to get going and break the ice and then it will be easier to get other more boatie related ones through the process. #11
Member Posted 2006-12-01 18:23:15
I am currently taking expressions of interest and holding deposits on a limited number of luxury properties in an exclusive marina development on Koh Samui. Interested parties should inquire at my office which is located next to coco blues bar in chaweng beach.
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Member Posted 2006-12-01 18:38:35
There is no serious plan for a marina in samui, it is all hot air. Also something that property agents have taken hold of and shouted out about it to try and further their own interests. Any marina will need to be financed privately and I havn't heard of anyone serious about making such a large investment. You can keep a small speed boat here or sailing boat, but this is not the place for larger motor yachts. There simply are not the services here on these islands. Phuket has great facilities, it would be nice to see a Marina in Samui, but i'm not holding my breath. They talk about putting the marina i the South, but the best cruising grounds are to the north west. Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Any further information please contact my office beside coco blues chaweng beach #13
MEMBER ME? Posted 2006-12-01 19:39:03
Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Problem is my villa is inland.
Edited by astral, 2007-05-12 18:23:50.
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happy member Posted 2006-12-02 08:13:47
I am currently taking expressions of interest and holding deposits on a limited number of luxury properties in an exclusive marina development on Koh Samui. Thanks but no thanks MM #15
Member Posted 2006-12-02 11:22:29
Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Problem is my villa is inland. sorry, I am sole agent for 5 high end developments only. If you would like to stop in at my office beside coco blues bar I can put you on to someone who can help you as far as moving your property who are actually nice people to deal with. These are the people I bought my land through and now have become good friends over the years. kind regards #16
I'm Not A Complete Idiot Some Parts Of Me Are Missing! Posted 2006-12-02 11:31:01
Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Problem is my villa is inland. sorry, I am sole agent for 5 high end developments only. If you would like to stop in at my office beside coco blues bar I can put you on to someone who can help you as far as moving your property who are actually nice people to deal with. These are the people I bought my land through and now have become good friends over the years. kind regards do you wear white shoes ...................... 
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Super Member Posted 2006-12-02 12:30:34
Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Problem is my villa is inland. sorry, I am sole agent for 5 high end developments only. If you would like to stop in at my office beside coco blues bar I can put you on to someone who can help you as far as moving your property who are actually nice people to deal with. These are the people I bought my land through and now have become good friends over the years. kind regards Is this guy for real??? Or is it someone else trying to make this guy look like a prick? I've got a feeling perhaps this poster isn't who they are claiming to be. #18
Senior Member Posted 2006-12-02 12:34:43
Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Problem is my villa is inland. sorry, I am sole agent for 5 high end developments only. If you would like to stop in at my office beside coco blues bar I can put you on to someone who can help you as far as moving your property who are actually nice people to deal with. These are the people I bought my land through and now have become good friends over the years. kind regards Within these 5 high end developments, how many standalone marina berths are there? i.e. berths that I could rent long term or short term but not have to buy or rent a house or apartment first. There are already a number of boat owners on Samui that have a house and don't want another one, just somewhere to securely locate their vessel. Are you selling a marina or are you selling a house with a berth? #19
Mistress Whiplash Posted 2006-12-02 16:43:10
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[quote name='SamuiJens' post='1012349' date='2006-12-01 19:39:03'] [quote name='ken ( platinum properties asia )' post='1012279' date='2006-12-01 12:38:35'] Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels[/quote] And you sell the villas as well,Ken? Problem is my villa is inland. [/quote] sorry, I am sole agent for 5 high end developments only. If you would like to stop in at my office beside coco blues bar I can put you on to someone who can help you as far as moving your property who are actually nice people to deal with. These are the people I bought my land through and now have become good friends over the years. kind regards [/quote] do you wear white shoes ...................... [/quote] [quote]Main Entry: sole Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, alone, from Anglo-French sul, soul, seul, from Latin solus 1 : not married -- used chiefly of women 2 archaic : having no companion : SOLITARY 3 a : having no sharer b : being the only one <she was her mother's sole support> 4 : functioning independently and without assistance or interference <let conscience be the sole judge> 5 : belonging exclusively or otherwise limited to one usually specified individual, unit, or group[/quote] Ken platinum properties appears to be located in Thailand but should remember guidelines about using the forum to sell their properties 
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I'm Not A Complete Idiot Some Parts Of Me Are Missing! Posted 2006-12-02 16:49:30 Quote Ken's company appears to be located in Thailand but should remember guidelines about using the forum to sell their properties the reference to white shoes comes from Queensland and the gold coast as i'm sure the poster is only too aware , sorry folks , a marina is light years away from reality for Samui #21
Member Posted 2006-12-02 16:58:41
Just to let you know that my company is now taking deposits for expressions of interest in the new life style marina on koh samui. It does not have a dry dock facility but you can berth your boats outside your villa and there is a large pen to facilitate quite large vessels. Problem is my villa is inland. sorry, I am sole agent for 5 high end developments only. If you would like to stop in at my office beside coco blues bar I can put you on to someone who can help you as far as moving your property who are actually nice people to deal with. These are the people I bought my land through and now have become good friends over the years. kind regards Within these 5 high end developments, how many standalone marina berths are there? i.e. berths that I could rent long term or short term but not have to buy or rent a house or apartment first. There are already a number of boat owners on Samui that have a house and don't want another one, just somewhere to securely locate their vessel. Are you selling a marina or are you selling a house with a berth? yes there are 33 available for lease as well as another 15 set aside for villa owners so in answer to your question yes you can just lease a birth #22
I'm Not A Complete Idiot Some Parts Of Me Are Missing! Posted 2006-12-02 17:02:38 Quote yes there are 33 available for lease as well as another 15 set aside for villa owners so in answer to your question yes you can just lease a birth you can obtain title to land on the moon too , and you'll take possession sooner #23
Member Posted 2006-12-02 17:27:18
Quote yes there are 33 available for lease as well as another 15 set aside for villa owners so in answer to your question yes you can just lease a birth you can obtain title to land on the moon too , and you'll take possession sooner great come back well done #24
Mistress Whiplash Posted 2006-12-02 17:44:37
Quote Ken platinum properties appears to be located in Thailand but should remember guidelines about using the forum to sell their properties the reference to white shoes comes from Queensland and the gold coast as i'm sure the poster is only too aware , sorry folks , a marina is light years away from reality for Samui My bad, never heard it before, assumed it was someone unaware of the meaning "sole" ") As for the "marina" on Koh Phangan, well that disaster has already managed to damage surrounding beaches, by altering the current it has helped erode sand on local beaches. Just for informations sake, the "marina" is a solid wall of dredged up coral and rock that does not allow the free flow of water but does permit a channel entrance to the shore. The solid wall has altered currents causing erosion and algae growth for the beaches nearby. I, for one, wish they would do an environmental impact study before doing things like dredging and building marinas. #25
Member Posted 2006-12-02 17:49:40
Quote Ken platinum properties appears to be located in Thailand but should remember guidelines about using the forum to sell their properties the reference to white shoes comes from Queensland and the gold coast as i'm sure the poster is only too aware , sorry folks , a marina is light years away from reality for Samui My bad, never heard it before, assumed it was someone unaware of the meaning "sole" ") As for the "marina" on Koh Phangan, well that disaster has already managed to damage surrounding beaches, by altering the current it has helped erode sand on local beaches. Just for informations sake, the "marina" is a solid wall of dredged up coral and rock that does not allow the free flow of water but does permit a channel entrance to the shore. The solid wall has altered currents causing erosion and algae growth for the beaches nearby. I, for one, wish they would do an environmental impact study before doing things like dredging and building marinas. do you honestly think a project of this size could be done on this island with all the things that have been happening in recent events without an enviromental study which by the way has been completed or we would'nt be talking |
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