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List Of 3000 Most Common Thai Wordsanyone got one ?
Started by Grover, 2006-12-14 13:48
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#26
Senior Member Posted 2009-03-26 18:52:16
Very useful indeed, excellent effort, chaps
#27
Super Member Posted 2009-06-18 10:26:51
I just wanted to say that I have not forgotten this exercise - the search to find the top 3000 Thai words. I do have a growing list in an Excel spreadsheet, but after throwing everything in, I realised awhile back that it has to be tackled from a different angle. A more practical angle.
Some Thai words are created by joining two words together - compound nouns, compound verbs, compound noun + verb, compound noun + adjective, etc - so while knowing the top word frequencies is handy, word frequencies do not work on their own. I personally believe that you need to start from the meaning and work backwards. I now know that not all English words have an exact duplicate in Thai, so there is that problem. Another problem: sentences to go with each word = a must... So that's what I'm doing now. Last year, with three Thais, a vocabulary list from a generic book on learning languages was put together. This past month I dragged it out of the mothballs. In the coming months I'll sort it to suit. Right now it matches the book (page by page) so it's pretty basic. And like I mentioned, it's generic to learning all languages so words special to Thai are not listed (yet). So I plan on deleting what doesn't belong, tweaking, and then I'll start adding the must know Thai words from my excel spread sheet until... well, until it is right. Or close to right. Or at least to the point where it generates less of an argument. The file, such as it is, can be downloaded from this post. Rikker did a quick look at the file, so PLEASE read his disclaimer in the comments. My dream, for each word, is to have a sentence for: proper Thai (the Thai we get in our course books), street Thai, a more polite Thai than street, and the Issan Thai we hear in taxis and up north. Yes, I do realise the amount of work this will take, but I am not in any rush... Btw - For what it's worth, I'm armed with a whole heap of Thai courses, dictionaries, grammar books, phrase books, online resources, etc. I have Rikker's top frequencies, as well as thai2english.com's and others. Seems to me, some sense can be made from all of the resources combined. Or at least I'll have fun trying
#28
Senior Member Posted 2009-07-04 08:43:10
I just wanted to say that I have not forgotten this exercise - the search to find the top 3000 Thai words. I do have a growing list in an Excel spreadsheet, but after throwing everything in, I realised awhile back that it has to be tackled from a different angle. A more practical angle. Some Thai words are created by joining two words together - compound nouns, compound verbs, compound noun + verb, compound noun + adjective, etc - so while knowing the top word frequencies is handy, word frequencies do not work on their own. I personally believe that you need to start from the meaning and work backwards. I now know that not all English words have an exact duplicate in Thai, so there is that problem. Another problem: sentences to go with each word = a must... So that's what I'm doing now. Last year, with three Thais, a vocabulary list from a generic book on learning languages was put together. This past month I dragged it out of the mothballs. In the coming months I'll sort it to suit. Right now it matches the book (page by page) so it's pretty basic. And like I mentioned, it's generic to learning all languages so words special to Thai are not listed (yet). So I plan on deleting what doesn't belong, tweaking, and then I'll start adding the must know Thai words from my excel spread sheet until... well, until it is right. Or close to right. Or at least to the point where it generates less of an argument. The file, such as it is, can be downloaded from this post. Rikker did a quick look at the file, so PLEASE read his disclaimer in the comments. My dream, for each word, is to have a sentence for: proper Thai (the Thai we get in our course books), street Thai, a more polite Thai than street, and the Issan Thai we hear in taxis and up north. Yes, I do realise the amount of work this will take, but I am not in any rush... Btw - For what it's worth, I'm armed with a whole heap of Thai courses, dictionaries, grammar books, phrase books, online resources, etc. I have Rikker's top frequencies, as well as thai2english.com's and others. Seems to me, some sense can be made from all of the resources combined. Or at least I'll have fun trying  I ran across a website that I like very much and have been using for a few weeks. You can try 15 or so free lessons and then subscribe to all the courses for $6.99 per month. It is at www.its4thai.com If you know of a better one, I would appreciate knowing about it. I am also looking for a list of the 1000 most frequently used English words with their Thai meanings. Any help there? Tom #29
Super Member Posted 2009-07-04 09:48:22
I ran across a website that I like very much and have been using for a few weeks. You can try 15 or so free lessons and then subscribe to all the courses for $6.99 per month. It is at www.its4thai.com If you know of a better one, I would appreciate knowing about it. I am also looking for a list of the 1000 most frequently used English words with their Thai meanings. Any help there? Tom its4thai.com is a decent program as Stuart has put in a lot of time and effort into making it easy to use. As for knowing a better one... truthfully, it does not matter which method or program you use, only that you do. http://learn-thai-podcast.com/ http://www.pimsleura.../learn-thai.asp http://www.linguapho...nguage/thai.cfm http://langhub.com/en-th/ http://www.byki.com/fls/free-thai-software...oad.html?l=thai http://www.thaiforbeginners.com And a new one - http://www.thai-flashcards.com/ Also, there are fantastic books out there for learning to read Thai (I have two favs). And tons more in the free resource url I posted in an earlier comment... They all work. For the top 1000... I couldn't stop at just 1000... but there is a course proposing to teach with just a handful of Thai words -->> http://www.letstalkthai.com.au/ #30
Senior Member Posted 2009-07-06 18:13:10
Here is my plan. This link (sealang) is most likely in here already somewhere, but I didn’t see it and
stumbled on it by myself. It is words by category and most of them have a commonality rating by web count. In my case, I think I should start learning some government terms if I am ever going to comprehend the news. There are some categories such as politics, bureaucracy, international relations, King and Royal family. I’ll make a list of the most common in those and start listening for them on newscasts. It will be boring but something I think I must do. Until recently I thought Mon Dtree was the last name of a prominent politician.After government I can move on to crime words. There was a football fan thread looking for sports terms, the same could be done with that. They have football, sports verbs etc. A nice feature if someone were to do a spread sheet of common words, is assign a code letter to each for category so they could sorted that way if so desired. JMO http://www.sealang.n...hai/vocabulary/ #31
Super Member Posted 2009-07-06 18:30:41
I ran into that list after I'd already typed out the first seven or so lessons from AUA. It's a fabulous list...
#32
Senior Member Posted 2009-07-19 08:45:51
I ran across a website that I like very much and have been using for a few weeks. You can try 15 or so free lessons and then subscribe to all the courses for $6.99 per month. It is at www.its4thai.com If you know of a better one, I would appreciate knowing about it. I am also looking for a list of the 1000 most frequently used English words with their Thai meanings. Any help there? Tom its4thai.com is a decent program as Stuart has put in a lot of time and effort into making it easy to use. As for knowing a better one... truthfully, it does not matter which method or program you use, only that you do. http://learn-thai-podcast.com/ http://www.pimsleura.../learn-thai.asp http://www.linguapho...nguage/thai.cfm http://langhub.com/en-th/ http://www.byki.com/fls/free-thai-software...oad.html?l=thai http://www.thaiforbeginners.com And a new one - http://www.thai-flashcards.com/ Also, there are fantastic books out there for learning to read Thai (I have two favs). And tons more in the free resource url I posted in an earlier comment... They all work. For the top 1000... I couldn't stop at just 1000... but there is a course proposing to teach with just a handful of Thai words -->> http://www.letstalkthai.com.au/ Flash Card site is great ขอบคุณที่ช่วยเหลือ Thank you for your help. #33
Senior Member Posted 2009-07-19 12:53:54
"For the top 1000... I couldn't stop at just 1000... "
It seems to me there must be a cut off somewhere for common words. Theroretically, if you had say 3,000 common words, then you would hear the other 2,999 common words first, before you hear common word number 3,000. Which wouldn't be so common . JMO #34
Newbie Posted 2010-04-12 20:26:39
thks to above posters for sharing ur lists from ur own research
#35
Member Posted 2010-04-14 10:23:52
Hi, these are great resources, thanks everyone.
I did not see a consolidated list so I put one together, copying and pasting all the SEA vocab into a spreadsheet. I find it more useful that way as I am more interested in learning vocab by its relevance (ie how commonly it is used) than its genre. There's also all sorts of interesting ways you can analyse the data once its in a spreadsheet... I separated out some of the more useful categories such as months, household vocab, measurement vocab, etc into separate tabs although they all also appear in the main list in the tab named "SEA Vocab". I removed any duplicates (there were 122 words which were repeated across different categories) leaving a vocab list of 3,123 words. I would have liked to include the category of each word but when I realised I would have to add it in manually, I quickly dropped that idea Enjoy! Attached Files
#36
Advanced Member Posted 2010-06-08 11:05:31
Brilliant! I got to keep this for my future use.
Thank you for sharing this with us! I just started my Thai lessons and it's really daunting especially in dealing with the different Thai characters. I have to gather all the helpful resources I need.
Grover, the best I can do is I have a list of the 1000 most common words according to four sources of language corpora. I've attached a spreadsheet that I converted to HTML. The best one is the Mary Haas list. Not sure about Haas, but the other three I know are all computed automatically, so the digits 0 to 9, among other things, count as "words" in their list, as well as some other things that aren't common Thai at all, but appear frequently in their corpora because of a large number of technical texts. Hope this is helpful. #37
Senior Member Posted 2010-06-13 19:31:07
Here are those top 3000 words with audio clips for 2500 of them.
I took the SEA vocab.xls previously posted and from the 3000 main words, I was able to download 2500 audio clips from ClickThai Language Center which at least for these words seems to have better coverage than other dictionaries I found online. I've uploaded it in Anki format, but it should be easy to load into excel or something and then change it to a format of your choice (or just use the above SEA Vocab.xls file). The txt file has all the words in it although for my own use, I only used the words in Anki that have an audio clip. Maybe I can find more clips with time or someone else will for some of the others. ps I didn't see anything on clickthai forbidding me from uploading their audio clips here but if I'm wrong I'm happy to have this post deleted or delete it myself, although I think they should welcome the fact that people are using their dictionary - which does have much better coverage than others I've tried! so i definitely will use this dictionary in the future. 
top30001.zip 3.99MB
145 downloads
top30002.zip 4MB
46 downloads
top30003.zip 4MB
42 downloads
top30004.zip 2.79MB
49 downloads
#38
Senior Member Posted 2010-06-25 18:37:34
one thing about this SEA compilation is it seems very written language and presumably newspaper oriented.
has anyone taken 100 movie subtitle files and broken the subtitles into words and then ranked the top 1000, 3000, 5000? Would this not give one a better preparation for watching movies and more importantly, speaking to people as it would be more likely to have more of the spoken language/words? #39
Newbie Posted 2010-09-12 17:10:27
Here are those top 3000 words with audio clips for 2500 of them. I took the SEA vocab.xls previously posted and from the 3000 main words, I was able to download 2500 audio clips from ClickThai Language Center which at least for these words seems to have better coverage than other dictionaries I found online. I've uploaded it in Anki format, but it should be easy to load into excel or something and then change it to a format of your choice (or just use the above SEA Vocab.xls file). The txt file has all the words in it although for my own use, I only used the words in Anki that have an audio clip. Maybe I can find more clips with time or someone else will for some of the others. ps I didn't see anything on clickthai forbidding me from uploading their audio clips here but if I'm wrong I'm happy to have this post deleted or delete it myself, although I think they should welcome the fact that people are using their dictionary - which does have much better coverage than others I've tried! so i definitely will use this dictionary in the future.  top30001.zip top30002.zip top30003.zip top30004.zipwowow!!! thank you so much! I currently started using Anki and I got like... 300-400 words and maybe 50 audio files. Your list will save me a huge lot of time Thanks again! Awesome!!! (btw for those who don't know Anki: it's a longterm study program which got a free desktop version and several applications for several devices (even Nintendo DS, iPhone got 2: AnkiMini for free for jailbroken iPhones (uploaded by the Author) and AnkiMobile in the AppStore (not free)) #40
ขุนค้อน Posted 2010-09-13 03:16:10
Hi, these are great resources, thanks everyone. I did not see a consolidated list so I put one together, copying and pasting all the SEA vocab into a spreadsheet. I find it more useful that way as I am more interested in learning vocab by its relevance (ie how commonly it is used) than its genre. There's also all sorts of interesting ways you can analyse the data once its in a spreadsheet... I separated out some of the more useful categories such as months, household vocab, measurement vocab, etc into separate tabs although they all also appear in the main list in the tab named "SEA Vocab". I removed any duplicates (there were 122 words which were repeated across different categories) leaving a vocab list of 3,123 words. I would have liked to include the category of each word but when I realised I would have to add it in manually, I quickly dropped that idea Enjoy! Thank you so much for this, much appreciated
#41
Newbie Posted 2010-11-28 22:31:22
Here are those top 3000 words with audio clips for 2500 of them. I took the SEA vocab.xls previously posted and from the 3000 main words, I was able to download 2500 audio clips from ClickThai Language Center which at least for these words seems to have better coverage than other dictionaries I found online. I've uploaded it in Anki format, but it should be easy to load into excel or something and then change it to a format of your choice (or just use the above SEA Vocab.xls file). The txt file has all the words in it although for my own use, I only used the words in Anki that have an audio clip. Maybe I can find more clips with time or someone else will for some of the others. ps I didn't see anything on clickthai forbidding me from uploading their audio clips here but if I'm wrong I'm happy to have this post deleted or delete it myself, although I think they should welcome the fact that people are using their dictionary - which does have much better coverage than others I've tried! so i definitely will use this dictionary in the future. top30001.zip top30002.zip top30003.zip top30004.zipThanks heaps for that. Excellent for those who know how to use ANKI. In fact, I registered just so I could download those files and write this post. ANKI is indeed an awesome free flashcard program and I recommend it to everyone: ANKI homepage Cheers #42
Newbie Posted 2010-12-06 18:28:33
Thanks! This is great.
my school doesnt belive in learning from a list, which is good but i still want a list for a reference. My thai dictionary has 60,000 words, 90% of which i will never learn! #43
Newbie Posted 2010-12-09 18:33:22 Thank u very much Rikker the list of common thai words helped me lot #44
Senior Member Posted 2010-12-10 14:10:13
Here are those top 3000 words with audio clips for 2500 of them. I took the SEA vocab.xls previously posted and from the 3000 main words, I was able to download 2500 audio clips from ClickThai Language Center which at least for these words seems to have better coverage than other dictionaries I found online. I've uploaded it in Anki format, but it should be easy to load into excel or something and then change it to a format of your choice (or just use the above SEA Vocab.xls file). The txt file has all the words in it although for my own use, I only used the words in Anki that have an audio clip. Maybe I can find more clips with time or someone else will for some of the others. ps I didn't see anything on clickthai forbidding me from uploading their audio clips here but if I'm wrong I'm happy to have this post deleted or delete it myself, although I think they should welcome the fact that people are using their dictionary - which does have much better coverage than others I've tried! so i definitely will use this dictionary in the future. top30001.zip top30002.zip top30003.zip top30004.zipThanks heaps for that. Excellent for those who know how to use ANKI. In fact, I registered just so I could download those files and write this post. ANKI is indeed an awesome free flashcard program and I recommend it to everyone: ANKI homepage Cheers When I unzip the audio files, I am getting strange Romanizedfiles names like a+üa+úa+¦a+êa+üa¦Ça+ça+¦.mp3 instead of Thai character names asspecified in the text file. ConsequentlyI can't get the audio in Anki. Anyonehave an idea of what I'm doing wrong? #45
Super Member Posted 2010-12-10 18:59:02
Here are those top 3000 words with audio clips for 2500 of them. I took the SEA vocab.xls previously posted and from the 3000 main words, I was able to download 2500 audio clips from ClickThai Language Center which at least for these words seems to have better coverage than other dictionaries I found online. I've uploaded it in Anki format It's not working for me... anyone else? #46
Super Member Posted 2010-12-11 05:17:44
never mind... it's working now (took a long time to suck everything in)
#47
Newbie Posted 2011-01-31 06:40:38
never mind... it's working now (took a long time to suck everything in) I can't download either.. Any advise? #48
Newbie Posted 2011-03-02 14:53:44
never mind... it's working now (took a long time to suck everything in) I can't download either.. Any advise? Same for me here, the links are not working anymore 
#49
Senior Member Posted 2011-05-15 10:19:08
Anyone got the anki lists that could upload them again?
#50
Advanced Member Posted 2011-05-25 22:02:29
The SEA file is awesome. Only problem is that there are no transcripts for those of us who are pretty bad at reading Thai.
So those anyone know of a website/program that can write transcripts from thai text? Thanks.
Hi, these are great resources, thanks everyone. I did not see a consolidated list so I put one together, copying and pasting all the SEA vocab into a spreadsheet. I find it more useful that way as I am more interested in learning vocab by its relevance (ie how commonly it is used) than its genre. There's also all sorts of interesting ways you can analyse the data once its in a spreadsheet... I separated out some of the more useful categories such as months, household vocab, measurement vocab, etc into separate tabs although they all also appear in the main list in the tab named "SEA Vocab". I removed any duplicates (there were 122 words which were repeated across different categories) leaving a vocab list of 3,123 words. I would have liked to include the category of each word but when I realised I would have to add it in manually, I quickly dropped that idea Enjoy! |
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