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"Justice will be done" say police in murder of student in Cha-Am

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I just feel its a waste of time reading such news because it would eventually be forgotten.

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This is a similar kind of case that's still working its way thru the courts. Sons of policemen are most of the suspects.

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/courts/2016/07/12/lesser-charges-7-killing-disabled-vendor/

 

They should have been charged with first degree murder, but they weren't. At least, however, they're supposedly still in jail and not out on bail pending trial.

 

But as the Khaosod article recounts, illustrating the way things often work:
 

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Matus said he’s afraid that the suspects will spend little time behind bars, even if they are convicted of second-degree murder, which carries a penalty ranging from 15 years in prison to execution. First-degree murder, on the other hand, has only one penalty: death.
 

In Thailand, guilty defendants rarely receive maximum sentences – especially if they confess – and may be eligible for royal pardons handed down on important dates related to the Royal Family.
 

“Their sentence will be reduced many times, and they will be out of jail soon,” Matus said.

 

 

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5 hours ago, MarkusAUST said:

One wonders if the police would have done anything, had the mother not created a scene.

This "one" does not wonder.

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6 hours ago, MarkusAUST said:

One wonders if the police would have done anything, had the mother not created a scene.

Nope, I don't wonder at all.

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ID: 32   Posted (edited)

2 hours ago, patekatek said:

Charge the whole damn gang with accessory to murder.   Some of the little pricks will give up the killer when faced with a long prison term.

Including the 4 girls !  Everyone in that group knows who had the screwdriver. Come to think of it I'd bet money the original target knows who had the screwdriver and did the murder.

Edited by IAMHERE
2nd thought
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Arrest and charge them all with murder, see how long they remain friends.

Someone will squeal eventually, if they don't lock them up & throw the key away.

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

There are rumors circulating that some of those involved are children of "influential" figures in Petchburi including a former MP.

In that case I assume the headline is about a novelty.

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And if it was the other way.A rich kid dead.One day,they would all be arrested.It is normal for children to be brought up thinking they can do what they like,Because there mother or father has stature.the mother will except a payement.She will be put under pressure ,not informed on the case,Welcome to thailand.Sad,but that is the way it is.Amazed that it became news.

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3 hours ago, little mary sunshine said:

The influential figures should be arrested as well

for raising such horrible young men and women,

utterly disgusting.

Your asking for a Gullivers travels stride in law enforcement. As much as the BIB blows their horn on this case there is a set way investigation proceeds here dominated by your standing in the pecking order. The mother said there will be no cremation till justice is done and sadly that will be the frosty Friday here. 

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6 hours ago, Lingba said:

No because they aren't actually police in the way we understand what police are supposed to be...these guys in brown uniforms are only trained to stop helmetless motor bike riders...that's it!...They aren't trained to work on the same level as police in the western world...all they do is put on a uniform and then walk around feeling like they are important and feel like they should be respected above everyone else

".these guys in brown uniforms are only trained to stop helmetless motor bike riders.."

And they usually don't even enforce that.

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5 hours ago, lavender19 said:

Because this LOS . Land of the scapegoat

Or land of lunatics? 

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ID: 39   Posted (edited)

9 hours ago, GarryP said:

I have lived here many years and I still don't understand this pack mentality. Why can't the offended parties handle things on their own in Thailand? Why do they need a posse? 18 against 1. All this tells me is that the offended party is not a man, a pathetic specimen of life. 

 

I hope the student's mother is successful in having the guilty brought to justice. 

 

 

 

Because it requires 18 to have the combined IQ of one average rationally thinking person, sometimes more.

Edited by Reigntax

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5 hours ago, little mary sunshine said:

The influential figures should be arrested as well

for raising such horrible young men and women,

utterly disgusting.

In a perfect world you would of course be right. 

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11 hours ago, Get Real said:

Why so negative? LOL

Because that's the way thailand works, 

ps. How long have you been here.?

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11 hours ago, Get Real said:

Why so negative? LOL

 

Because there is a long list of cases involving members of influential families and their offspring that once the suspects giver themselves up or are arrested, questioned and bailed, never seem to get any further or ever mentioned again by the media.

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10 hours ago, Lingba said:

No because they aren't actually police in the way we understand what police are supposed to be...these guys in brown uniforms are only trained to stop helmetless motor bike riders...that's it!...They aren't trained to work on the same level as police in the western world...all they do is put on a uniform and then walk around feeling like they are important and feel like they should be respected above everyone else

Yeah.  Only Western countries are ok.  Senseless

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13 hours ago, clockman said:

Nice peace loving Buddhists!

Seems that this sort of mindless comment is always made when there is an instance of Thais committing violence (along with the trite sarcasm of  'religion of peace' when a Muslim is responsible). Why no comments about turning the other cheek or 'blessed are the peace makers' when a westerner does something violent. Are you so naïve as to believe that just because a particular religion is dominant in a certain place, that all of the population will act in accordance with the tenets of that religion? Do the actions of some 'members' of a religion discredit the whole religion itself? If that's the case, then there's not a single religion on the planet (except perhaps Jainism) that will pass that test.  

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5 hours ago, ableguy said:

Because that's the way thailand works, 

ps. How long have you been here.?

On my 17th year. How about you?
As I always try to say. Things are getting better, but it works slow.
Also something I can see during the long time I stayed here.

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5 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Because there is a long list of cases involving members of influential families and their offspring that once the suspects giver themselves up or are arrested, questioned and bailed, never seem to get any further or ever mentioned again by the media.

Never mentioned again in the media, does not mean what you think. That´s just the way things work here.
As you surely know, there is a problem with doing a job completely here. So it is also with media. They like the sensation and after that it´s quiet.
Just look at the body in the freezer. No influential people. Heard more?
All the rapes! How many cases do you hear the end of?
All murders with no influential people. The end, where?

Coluld go on until tomorrow with examples, but it´s just a waste of time.
I am not saying it´s right, and the comment you quoted from start was supposed to be sarcastic. Unfortunatelt now everything lost it´s point,

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ID: 47   Posted (edited)

Hmmmm.........Where have we heard this sort of rhetoric coming  from the police  before????

Remind me, as it sounds all too familiar...lol

A whole lot of sabre rattling going on in the beginning and then they lose interest ...or they are paid off.

 

Cheers

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20 hours ago, Get Real said:

Why so negative? LOL

Reality?  LOL

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"No matter if those involved are the children of influential people, politicians or people in uniform"
Case closed.

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Screwdriver through the head.

 

25 years here and I think this country has massive problems.

 

Education education education please please please!!!

 

Step into the 21st century!!

 

I suppose this happens all over the world. Right???

 

If they 'Do the right thing ' after a few decades the right thing will become the norm. No???

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