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Walking Street: Has topless Go-Go become a No-No?

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1 hour ago, mogoso said:

If you were going backwards in time, the bras wouldn't be worn. I'm not sure of the exact time maybe the 1920-30s a law was enacted that women had to have their tops covered in public. Until that time it was optional.

 

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A couple of off topic posts and a troll post have been removed

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7 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

The raids will not stop this time. Brown envelopes will not stop them. The raids are planned and conducted by the Army and a special Administrative unit that gets its orders from  another source.  The pressure will continue until the GoGo's close; relocate or simply change their format. The powers that be do not like them.

 

There is certainly a concerted effort to hurt the industry that is either owned by the police or make up a large portion of their handouts.  The problem is that it will just send it underground and that is a very dangerous direction for it to go.  If you really destroy the sex, drugs and rock and roll image of Pattaya then it will die a slow and miserable death.  As a beach resort it is pathetic.

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7 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Pattaya's integrity restored! Congratulations.

This is a outrage I demand compensation .What is Thailand trying to accomplish ?

18 minutes ago, kennw said:

Maybe it already has, has anyone noticed the "Arab Disco" just opened on the 5th floor of a building on Soi 3 Bangkok. closed door and security vet entry. Not hard to find, about 100m from the police box on the other side of Sukhumvit. 

 

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It will relocate to other places but in a more subdued format.  Tourism will not be hurt by it's demise or relocation. The Western mongers will go somewhere else but the powers in charge don't care. there is more money in the Chinese and middle to upper class Thais that there is in Western tourists who get drunk and fight.  Bangkok is following the same pattern- the relocation has already started. Except in Bangkok- bars are moving out because they cannot afford the rent as the land prices are skyrocketing and they can't increase prices enough  to make up for lost revenue. The thing that may hasten all of this is the new excise tax on alcohol. Even if it is 10-20%- these  price increases will force some bars out of business.

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The club was charged with opening out of hours, having no operating license, no alcohol license,

 

So does that mean the actual owner will be traced & prosecuted or the scapegoat manager will take the whole rap??

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ID: 32   Posted (edited)

No more topless Thai ladies? Not much to miss.

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5 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

It will relocate to other places but in a more subdued format.  Tourism will not be hurt by it's demise or relocation. The Western mongers will go somewhere else but the powers in charge don't care. there is more money in the Chinese and middle to upper class Thais that there is in Western tourists who get drunk and fight.  Bangkok is following the same pattern- the relocation has already started. Except in Bangkok- bars are moving out because they cannot afford the rent as the land prices are skyrocketing and they can't increase prices enough  to make up for lost revenue. The thing that may hasten all of this is the new excise tax on alcohol. Even if it is 10-20%- these  price increases will force some bars out of business.

Interesting post and good points.  It is true that Western Tourism is falling and will continue to do so.  Even the gap year tourism is likely to fall away, not that that brought in many dollars anyway.  Certainly China is a huge market if they can capture it successfully.  The package tour Chinese are not lucrative enough but their (newly rich) middle class tourists can bring in some serious bucks.  But will Thailand be able to really sanitise it's sex industry?  There is serous money being made out of it and many snouts in the trough.

 

Slowly but surely Burma is going to open up and I think that will be the draw for the Western market in the future.  Whether it will replace Thailand as the preferred  sex tourist destination remains to be seen but there would be an irony if the young ladies from Thailand went to Burma for the "opportunities".

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2 hours ago, mogoso said:

If you were going backwards in time, the bras wouldn't be worn. I'm not sure of the exact time maybe the 1920-30s a law was enacted that women had to have their tops covered in public. Until that time it was optional.

 

Let's build a time machine and deal with the law making SOB!:smile:

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1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Topless and bottomless dancers are part of the local culture and charm of Thailand.  That is what many tourists say they go to Thailand for, the culture!  Seriously though the authorities need to leave the sex and debauchery alone.  It has it's place and Thailand is very good at it. 

And mostly perfectly natural!

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Oh well time to play Thanks for the mammeries  .

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1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

The raids will not stop this time. Brown envelopes will not stop them. The raids are planned and conducted by the Army and a special Administrative unit that gets its orders from  another source.  The pressure will continue until the GoGo's close; relocate or simply change their format. The powers that be do not like them.

After the usual "crackdowns" business will revert to normal, as the police have a vested interest that they should stay open, either in terms of brown envelopes or in actual ownership.

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1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

It will relocate to other places but in a more subdued format.  Tourism will not be hurt by it's demise or relocation. The Western mongers will go somewhere else but the powers in charge don't care. there is more money in the Chinese and middle to upper class Thais that there is in Western tourists who get drunk and fight.  Bangkok is following the same pattern- the relocation has already started. Except in Bangkok- bars are moving out because they cannot afford the rent as the land prices are skyrocketing and they can't increase prices enough  to make up for lost revenue. The thing that may hasten all of this is the new excise tax on alcohol. Even if it is 10-20%- these  price increases will force some bars out of business.

Without sex what would Pattaya have to offer?

Nature,arts,culture,scenic beauty?

No my friend alls Pattaya has is shopping malls and sex....

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18 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

After the usual "crackdowns" business will revert to normal, as the police have a vested interest that they should stay open, either in terms of brown envelopes or in actual ownership.

Yes my fiend but it is not the police doing the crackdown and that is the point.  It is the army and they have had a running battle with the police for many years.  In Thaksin's day the police ran the show and now with the Junta the army runs the show.  A little knowledge of how Thailand works may help you to understand.

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Just now, dunroaming said:

Yes my fiend but it is not the police doing the crackdown and that is the point.  It is the army and they have had a running battle with the police for many years.  In Thaksin's day the police ran the show and now with the Junta the army runs the show.  A little knowledge of how Thailand works may help you to understand.

And you think that the army will continue this "crackdown" indefinitely?   Once they tire of this exercise and leave Pattaya, the police will again take over.  The army have been in control now for four years and there is little evidence of any top police being jailed, although I will admit that quite a few have suffered the horrendous fate of being transferred to an inactive post, which clearly shows that the army really mean business.

 

Incidentally, I did not notice that the army's influence with the errant monk episode produced much by way of results, short term or long term.

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I find it interesting that people are missing the fact that the charges were not for topless dancing but

 

being open past closing time.

 

allowing underage drinking

allowing drug usage

having shisha pipes and equipment

 

These are things that are illegal  in every country (except for shisha)  The raid was not for topless dancers but because there was a complaint of underage drinking.

 

This is a good raid and does nothing to hurt the Farang tourist.  The girls still parade with tops on in the bars and the last time i was at Patpong the clubs were doing quite nice thank you.

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12 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

Once they tire of this exercise and leave Pattaya, the police will again take over.  

And what would trigger that?  I agree that the crackdown on Pattaya and other police controlled sex venues will not go on indefinitely but this is a simple army versus police situation that has gone on for many years.  The police were Thaksin's boys and they ruled the roost while he was in power.  After the Thaksin coup the army now rules the roost.  The conflict is far more than just the sex industry, it also encapsulates the drug industry that has historically been controlled by the police or haven't you noticed the increase in drug busts.  This is about who controls Thailand and the army are not going anywhere anytime soon.

 

Don't get the reference to the monk situation, what has that got to do with the crackdown on the police?

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8 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

You don't have much heart at all, don't you know that there are parents all over the world who have lost their children through drugs? Maybe you should stop being sarcastic.

Maybe you should mind your own business.

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3 hours ago, sanukjim said:

The local BIB will continue to seek the brown envelops to allow different forms of entertainment as that is how that they are paying for their families Mercs but the army of LOS tell the BIB what clubs to raid (notice that all the clubs are not put on notice to stop these activities) .These raids are the army's way of showing the BIB who realy is in charge.The army still remember the way that they were treated when Taksin (the ex cop) was in charge.

I don`t think so.

 

This has all the hallmarks as when the police began enforcing restrictions on bars in Chiang Mai about 15 years ago. I bet the raids and restrictions will become more and more intense in Pattaya and probably in other parts of the country. Seems they really mean business this time.

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10 hours ago, webfact said:

Manager Niwat Saengsaikaew, 30, was taken away.

Sorry misread I thought it stated he was "away" Guess he did not get one of those psssst mobile calls saying the jig is up and the fuzz are on their way. 

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10 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Not if you pay the right dough, dough !

I have always wondered why drive all the way up the original Walking Street to find one unlegal business when the Beach Walking Street in front of the Police Station is unlegal from the beginning to the end - so this may be the answer...;)

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13 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Am I missing something?  The headlines mentions Go Go and Nudity, then the news or the rest of the article is about a raid on Dance 2?  from the description this seems to be a Thai club/disco unless I miss a Go Go called Dance 2, that is located in W.S.?

What we got here too " Fake Media "?

 

 

Insurance rates could be on the rise and some insurers are slow off the mark and need a little nudge. As the name of that town in Newfoundland Canada reminds me of the BIB they do not "Come By Chance"

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5 hours ago, redwinecheese said:

So? I'm talking about people having sex in public, which part you can't understand?

Seen that in Thailand too. Admittedly 15 years ago..... part of a stage performance.  Would not go to look for it though, but did not bother me too much. 

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As I have asked in a previous post. Ist the prime minister Prayut a Muslim? If so, it would explain and put in a different context the measures this government has been taking, and the true reasons behind this newly found morality.

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