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Thailand ranked 32 on World Happiness Report 2017 as Norway comes on top

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How on earth could they top the list? Maybe it's the wealth. The very thought of eating all that pickled fish, not to mention reindeer, and the grim winters...enough to send anyone into a deep funk. 

Nice people though.

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Well I guess we all feel smug that our lives in Thailand are better than they would be in our home country.  That's great that we have a sense of appreciation.  Thing is there are many millions of people in this country who are poor, life sucks and have absolutely no hope for a better future.  I see them every day and cringe at the thought of what could have been

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Guess it's back to the drawing board with the junta's "happiness campaign": http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/thailand-military-leaders-launch-happiness-campaign-1.2668950

 

That said, at least 99% of populace are happy with the junta itself ... and ain't that enough? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/23/thailands-junta-releases-poll-showing-993-of-citizens-happy-with-its-performance

 

 

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Just occurred to me ... perhaps the low ranking is due to the researchers mistakenly including ThaiVisa members among the respondents.

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2 hours ago, madmitch said:

Thailand recently came first in the least miserable country in the world report but it's only the 32nd  happiest country in the world.

 

Not quite sure what this states, other than reports like this are totally meaningless. 

Based on many years of research, psychologists no longer view happiness and sadness as being at opposite ends of the same spectrum. One can be low on both (i.e., emotionally 'flat') or high on both (emotionally volatile/cyclic). In fact, these two emotions are centred in different parts of the brain (http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/28/science/the-brain-manages-happiness-and-sadness-in-different-centers.html?pagewanted=all). So these two surveys taken together (and assuming that both are valid) suggest that Thais are pretty immune to the bad stuff in life, but not exactly joyful. One might even attribute this to a Buddhist mindset of 'acceptance of suffering' without undue craving (that would lie behind 'joy').  

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25 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

How on earth could they top the list? Maybe it's the wealth. The very thought of eating all that pickled fish, not to mention reindeer, and the grim winters...enough to send anyone into a deep funk. 

Nice people though.

You have never been to Norway, have you?

From the age of 20 until 60 I used to spend 6 or more weeks there every year.

The 4 months of spring/summer/autumn make up for the 8 winter months!

 

As you mentioned, Norwegians are nice and intelligent people (when they are not drunk), and on top of that, there is the scenery, the unspoiled environment, the feeling of total freedom, a perfectly organized country, great social security system, safety.

 

But Norway is going downhill recently. Because of low oil prices, and because of the influx of people of a certain persuasion.

f ex Oslo Central Train Station has become a scary place.

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10 minutes ago, Docno said:

Just occurred to me ... perhaps the low ranking is due to the researchers mistakenly including ThaiVisa members among the respondents.

There were no respondents in this study. The study assumes money, health, freedom and some other factors are responsible for happiness. So they just looked at these criteria. 

Another study which just asked respondents how happy they were, ranked Thais as the happiest people. Happiness is a mindset and partly a choice. Outside factors certainly can influence it, but are not solely responsible.

Brain scans from Buddhist monks show they can get into an extremely happy state just by certain meditation techniques.

furthermore I think a lot of unhappiness comes from seeing others having more than oneself, and also wanting that but cannot afford it or attain it. 

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17 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

"Nordic countries are the most content ...................."

 

I hope Sweden is content.

Depends who were spoken to in the survey . If the immigrants then a BIG happy for sure 

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In Australia....the well to do are happy....the middle class striving to improve their lot....but youth, the aged, single parents, the sick, the unemployed and weekend workers.....they are definitely not happy!

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1 minute ago, ChrisY1 said:

In Australia....the well to do are happy....the middle class striving to improve their lot....but youth, the aged, single parents, the sick, the unemployed and weekend workers.....they are definitely not happy!

And in what country isnt that the case.......

 

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4 minutes ago, superal said:

Depends who were spoken to in the survey . If the immigrants then a BIG happy for sure 

I live in Sweden, for me it´s the best country in tha world.

Ofcourse immigrants shall be happy to end up in a country that have no war.

If I lived in a country like Syria I would do everything to get away.

 

We have problem yes, in some areas in mainly the three biggest cities there

are criminal gangs schooting on eachother.

That´s something that the police have to deal with.

I´m sure they will, they will get what they need to solv this problem.

 

The only ones that are happy about those gangfights is HA and Bandidos,

now they can do what they do, because police have no time for them.

 

Sweden is a huge country with only about ten million people.

We need everybody that want to come and have a good intention

and that´s what most people have. 

Because I´m Swedish I have the privilege to spend some month in Thailand every year.

Some people love winter and snow, I don´t.

Strange, my thaiwife she like Sweden wintertime, for her Thailand is to hot.

 

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17 hours ago, arithai12 said:

Ok, packing for Norway then. When do they have the durian season?

Just follow your nose. 

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What a load of utter nonsense!

 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand ranked 32 on World Happiness Report 2017 as Norway comes on top

 

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Norway displaced Denmark as the world’s happiest country as Thailand was ranked 32 compared to last year’s 33rd ranking in the World Happiness Report 2017 produced by the Sustainable Development Solutions Network, a global initiative launched by the United Nations in 2012.

 

Nordic countries are the most content whereas countries in the sub-Saharan Africa, along with Syria and Yemen, are the least happy of the 155 countries ranked in the fifth annual report released at the UN.

 

Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Sweden rounded out the top ten countries.

 

South Sudan, Liberia, Guinea, Togo, Rwanda, Tanzania, Burundi and the Central Africa Republic were at the bottom.

 

Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thailand-ranked-32-world-happiness-report-2017-norway-comes-top/

 
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Happiness is very much subjective, Objective figures given certain weightage and calculating happiness has some meaning - but could we give the result the term 'happiness' is debatable. Poor people in a forest village could be much more happier than richer than them but poor in the neighbourhood... Gandhi advocated for limiting wants to achieve happiness. Schumacher's small is beaurtiful is another example. 

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4 hours ago, nontabury said:

Aforex, Many Thais are happy, they are lucky in that they are completely unaware of how people in other countries live. This is mainly due to the fact that from an early age,that are brainwashed into thinking that everything is perfect in Thailand.

 However many of the educated,who are not part of the elite,realise what the score is. So are you suggesting that they should also go somewhere else.

I was working in Pathum Thani a few years back.

 

The easiest way to get to my apartment in the evenings was a bunch of left turns which put me on a super narrow canal-side road.

 

I saw this ramshackle Mom & Pop shop, and peeled over to see if I could grab a couple beers.

 

Just salt of the earth, SUPER nice people, with a 3 year old grand daughter, who was happy as a clam, playing with whatever she had at hand, which was pretty much just a pile of dirt.

 

I got her a few coloring books & a doll to play with.

 

The entire excuse for a shop was a slime pit, on a canal.

 

I'd have adopted that little girl if I could have.

 

Once again, SUPER nice people, but they just had no idea.

 

 

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"Thailand ranked 32 on World Happiness Report 2017"

 

You'd never guess that from reading through the Thaivisa forums.

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4 hours ago, chainarong said:

Firstly Thailand  is rated at 33 France is at 32, Thailand loses out in Trust and Generosity sections, so there lies Thailand's problems the Junta ain't generous  and something we already know the Junta can't be trusted , that sums up Thailand in a nut shell.....................................:cheesy:.

Nope. Thailand are at 32, the 33 ranking was last year. So moving in the right direction. They were actually ranked at 4 (down from 2 in 2016) in the Generosity section. Details here:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

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As an Aussie...., I'd just like to say(write)..., I am sure those 'top' countries are all very happy in their own way..., and I don't mean to deliberately 'dis' anyone's alleged happiness..., but I am so "happy as larry" that we Australians don't have to share a border with anyone else..., it just makes things so much easier. 
And I don't want any "ignorance is bliss" comeback comments from the peanut gallery ! :wai:

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My current home, Japan, comes in at 51. I'm happier here than I was when I lived in Thailand. My job is good and living in a fully developed country full of decent hard working people is refreshing. However, if I had to put in the hours that a typical Japanese worker does, I think my happiness would fall drastically. You know there is a problem when there is a term for it, Karōshi, death by overwork.

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7 hours ago, Gulfsailor said:

The miserable country index was based on questioning the citizens how they rate their happiness. 

This UN study makes assumptions that certain criteria are responsible for happiness. They haven't actually asked the people how they feel. 

So you get different results. Ask a Thai if he is happy, and in general you get a positive answer. Ask a foreigner and they are generally more critical of their own country. Ask a foreigner in Thailand, and most will say Thailand is shit and the people cant possibly be happy. 

I don't know which study should be regarded higher. But one thing is for sure; Ignorance is bliss. 

Ask a foreigner in Thailand, and most will say Thailand is shit and the people cant possibly be happy. - Really? That's a survey I can't believe for sure.

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On 3/20/2017 at 6:40 PM, arithai12 said:

Ok, packing for Norway then. When do they have the durian season?

Oh Right ... suould be wonderful as their lovely Bloody Whale killing thing starts in a few days...ENJOY!!

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10 hours ago, oldhippy said:

You have never been to Norway, have you?

From the age of 20 until 60 I used to spend 6 or more weeks there every year.

The 4 months of spring/summer/autumn make up for the 8 winter months!

 

As you mentioned, Norwegians are nice and intelligent people (when they are not drunk), and on top of that, there is the scenery, the unspoiled environment, the feeling of total freedom, a perfectly organized country, great social security system, safety.

 

But Norway is going downhill recently. Because of low oil prices, and because of the influx of people of a certain persuasion.

f ex Oslo Central Train Station has become a scary place.

"You have never been to Norway, have you?

From the age of 20 until 60 I used to spend 6 or more weeks there every year.

The 4 months of spring/summer/autumn make up for the 8 winter months

Norwegians are nice and intelligent people (when they are not drunk), and on top of that, there is the scenery, the unspoiled environment, the feeling of total freedom, a perfectly organized country, great social security system, safety."

Duh...........!!! Are you for real???

 

No and I certainly don't want to, especially at this time of the year when they become worse than the Koreans and Chinese who have their eating dog murderous festivals and now these wonderful Norwegians as you call them  go on their wild stupid killing whale seasons ....+++  now they not only do that but,  catch the female whales gut them /// take the fetuses out of them and dump the mothers back into the sea over and above  killing them in the sea shores and swimming in their blood after they killed them...........OMG ...j@!!~... ah~never mind! talking to stone walls again .. And you ask if we have been there ???

 

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