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[Paangjang]

I'm looking for a Phuket pool building contractor to build an "above ground" concrete pool inside an existing building. 5Mx2.5Mx3Mdeep will be used for SCUBA training. Do indoor chlorine pools always smell or can that be controlled with balancing?

Recommendations guys? Looking for Quotes on different specs.

[WarpSpeed]

Paangjang, on 2011-11-21 15:22:41, said:

I'm looking for a Phuket pool building contractor to build an "above ground" concrete pool inside an existing building. 5Mx2.5Mx3Mdeep will be used for SCUBA training. Do indoor chlorine pools always smell or can that be controlled with balancing?

Recommendations guys? Looking for Quotes on different specs.

Indoor pools are very difficult to keep in balance because the sun contributes heavily to the balance as does rain replenishment. But it can be done and if done right you should have little, to no Cl2 smell. When you do smell it, it's generally because the Ph and T/A (Total Alkalinity) are out of balance with the amount of Cl2 and it is likely too low.

[Paangjang]

WarpSpeed, on 2011-11-21 23:50:49, said:

Paangjang, on 2011-11-21 15:22:41, said:

I'm looking for a Phuket pool building contractor to build an "above ground" concrete pool inside an existing building. 5Mx2.5Mx3Mdeep will be used for SCUBA training. Do indoor chlorine pools always smell or can that be controlled with balancing?

Recommendations guys? Looking for Quotes on different specs.

Indoor pools are very difficult to keep in balance because the sun contributes heavily to the balance as does rain replenishment. But it can be done and if done right you should have little, to no Cl2 smell. When you do smell it, it's generally because the Ph and T/A (Total Alkalinity) are out of balance with the amount of Cl2 and it is likely too low.

Thanks Warpspeed, im going to have to find a reputable company to help me with these things. You guys seem to know what your talking about but i don't really want to start learning pool DIY now. I want to find a good firm to help me build the pool and i guess maintain it as well. Trouble is i don't really want to get shafted by some ex pat asking for over the top Phuket farang rates.

[Bagwain]

Paangjang, on 2011-11-22 10:37:16, said:

WarpSpeed, on 2011-11-21 23:50:49, said:

Paangjang, on 2011-11-21 15:22:41, said:

I'm looking for a Phuket pool building contractor to build an "above ground" concrete pool inside an existing building. 5Mx2.5Mx3Mdeep will be used for SCUBA training. Do indoor chlorine pools always smell or can that be controlled with balancing?

Recommendations guys? Looking for Quotes on different specs.

Indoor pools are very difficult to keep in balance because the sun contributes heavily to the balance as does rain replenishment. But it can be done and if done right you should have little, to no Cl2 smell. When you do smell it, it's generally because the Ph and T/A (Total Alkalinity) are out of balance with the amount of Cl2 and it is likely too low.

Thanks Warpspeed, im going to have to find a reputable company to help me with these things. You guys seem to know what your talking about but i don't really want to start learning pool DIY now. I want to find a good firm to help me build the pool and i guess maintain it as well. Trouble is i don't really want to get shafted by some ex pat asking for over the top Phuket farang rates.

I just PM'd you a recommendation
Good luck
Cheers

[WarpSpeed]

Paangjang, on 2011-11-22 10:37:16, said:

WarpSpeed, on 2011-11-21 23:50:49, said:

Paangjang, on 2011-11-21 15:22:41, said:

I'm looking for a Phuket pool building contractor to build an "above ground" concrete pool inside an existing building. 5Mx2.5Mx3Mdeep will be used for SCUBA training. Do indoor chlorine pools always smell or can that be controlled with balancing?

Recommendations guys? Looking for Quotes on different specs.

Indoor pools are very difficult to keep in balance because the sun contributes heavily to the balance as does rain replenishment. But it can be done and if done right you should have little, to no Cl2 smell. When you do smell it, it's generally because the Ph and T/A (Total Alkalinity) are out of balance with the amount of Cl2 and it is likely too low.

Trouble is i don't really want to get shafted by some ex pat asking for over the top Phuket farang rates.

This prevalent perception is why I don't offer my services, too many people wanting everything on the cheap and not respecting the 25 years it took me to amass the experience and expertise I have makes it not worth my time to work here for a fraction of what I made back home when the work is every bit as hard and many times even harder because of previous incompetence and now my being up in years.. You get what you pay for.. And you're right not the time for learning DIY..

[Paangjang]

This prevalent perception is why I don't offer my services, too many people wanting everything on the cheap and not respecting the 25 years it took me to amass the experience and expertise I have makes it not worth my time to work here for a fraction of what I made back home when the work is every bit as hard and many times even harder because of previous incompetence and now my being up in years.. You get what you pay for.. And you're right not the time for learning DIY..
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Totally agree, i'm a tradesman but i wouldn't do that job here. Like you say, easier back home and make more money at it. Only doing the job here i do, as its easier to do it here and i make more money out of doing it here. Just meant, i don't mind paying more for a good job but don't really want to pay much much more to a fast talking farang sales man than a Thai person would pay for their resort, shop etc.

Edited by Paangjang, 2011-11-22 13:32:14.

[WarpSpeed]

Paangjang, on 2011-11-22 13:30:21, said:

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This prevalent perception is why I don't offer my services, too many people wanting everything on the cheap and not respecting the 25 years it took me to amass the experience and expertise I have makes it not worth my time to work here for a fraction of what I made back home when the work is every bit as hard and many times even harder because of previous incompetence and now my being up in years.. You get what you pay for.. And you're right not the time for learning DIY..

Totally agree, i'm a tradesman but i wouldn't do that job here. Like you say, easier back home and make more money at it. Only doing the job here i do, as its easier to do it here and i make more money out of doing it here. Just meant, i don't mind paying more for a good job but don't really want to pay much much more to a fast talking farang sales man than a Thai person would pay for their resort, shop etc.

Fair enough but the problem is you already have your mindset of a "fast talking farang salesmen" so that pretty much labels anyone of the farang persuasion doesn't it since you're already biased, it sure does make their salesmanship that much more difficult..

I'd also like to add that many farang sales people will tell you up front what the jobs going to REALLY cost or very close to it whereas the Thai approach is to tell you what you want to hear and then apologize all over themselves as prices increase and they are in the middle of the job and you have no alternative but to bend over as it were..

In the end though it all comes out the same except you won't get the potential quality either. Mind you this is not the rule in all cases but a pretty accurate portrayal for most situations.

[Paangjang]

WarpSpeed, on 2011-11-22 22:59:40, said:

Paangjang, on 2011-11-22 13:30:21, said:

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This prevalent perception is why I don't offer my services, too many people wanting everything on the cheap and not respecting the 25 years it took me to amass the experience and expertise I have makes it not worth my time to work here for a fraction of what I made back home when the work is every bit as hard and many times even harder because of previous incompetence and now my being up in years.. You get what you pay for.. And you're right not the time for learning DIY..

Totally agree, i'm a tradesman but i wouldn't do that job here. Like you say, easier back home and make more money at it. Only doing the job here i do, as its easier to do it here and i make more money out of doing it here. Just meant, i don't mind paying more for a good job but don't really want to pay much much more to a fast talking farang sales man than a Thai person would pay for their resort, shop etc.

Fair enough but the problem is you already have your mindset of a "fast talking farang salesmen" so that pretty much labels anyone of the farang persuasion doesn't it since you're already biased, it sure does make their salesmanship that much more difficult..

I'd also like to add that many farang sales people will tell you up front what the jobs going to REALLY cost or very close to it whereas the Thai approach is to tell you what you want to hear and then apologize all over themselves as prices increase and they are in the middle of the job and you have no alternative but to bend over as it were..

In the end though it all comes out the same except you won't get the potential quality either. Mind you this is not the rule in all cases but a pretty accurate portrayal for most situations.

Fair enough, suppose i'm just looking for one of those cases you talk about when you say this isn't the rule in all cases. Surely not all Thais do a job of less quality? And there's definitely more Thai's out there offering services than foreigners so shouldn't be too hard to find a good one out of all of them. Just looking for a good job at a good price. Don't mind paying for it. Imagine if a Thai man and a foreign man in Thailand did exactly the same job at the same quality, which one is likely to be cheaper? Living in a country of cheap labor here.
It's like buying an overpriced imported product in the same country as it was exported from. Again this isn't the rule in all cases. I've just had a good quote from an Aussie guy in Phuket. Seen his work, like his price.

[WarpSpeed]

Paangjang, on 2011-11-23 12:01:06, said:

WarpSpeed, on 2011-11-22 22:59:40, said:

Paangjang, on 2011-11-22 13:30:21, said:

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This prevalent perception is why I don't offer my services, too many people wanting everything on the cheap and not respecting the 25 years it took me to amass the experience and expertise I have makes it not worth my time to work here for a fraction of what I made back home when the work is every bit as hard and many times even harder because of previous incompetence and now my being up in years.. You get what you pay for.. And you're right not the time for learning DIY..

Totally agree, i'm a tradesman but i wouldn't do that job here. Like you say, easier back home and make more money at it. Only doing the job here i do, as its easier to do it here and i make more money out of doing it here. Just meant, i don't mind paying more for a good job but don't really want to pay much much more to a fast talking farang sales man than a Thai person would pay for their resort, shop etc.

Fair enough but the problem is you already have your mindset of a "fast talking farang salesmen" so that pretty much labels anyone of the farang persuasion doesn't it since you're already biased, it sure does make their salesmanship that much more difficult..

I'd also like to add that many farang sales people will tell you up front what the jobs going to REALLY cost or very close to it whereas the Thai approach is to tell you what you want to hear and then apologize all over themselves as prices increase and they are in the middle of the job and you have no alternative but to bend over as it were..

In the end though it all comes out the same except you won't get the potential quality either. Mind you this is not the rule in all cases but a pretty accurate portrayal for most situations.

Fair enough, suppose i'm just looking for one of those cases you talk about when you say this isn't the rule in all cases. Surely not all Thais do a job of less quality? And there's definitely more Thai's out there offering services than foreigners so shouldn't be too hard to find a good one out of all of them. Just looking for a good job at a good price. Don't mind paying for it. Imagine if a Thai man and a foreign man in Thailand did exactly the same job at the same quality, which one is likely to be cheaper? Living in a country of cheap labor here.
It's like buying an overpriced imported product in the same country as it was exported from. Again this isn't the rule in all cases. I've just had a good quote from an Aussie guy in Phuket. Seen his work, like his price.

Apples and oranges really.