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In Topic: Chalerm Denies Threat Of Terror: Thailand

2012-01-14 13:34:38

webfact, on 2012-01-14 13:14:05, said:

Mr Surapong noted Thailand is a friendly country and expresses itself in the world's arena in an appropriate manner. He asked potential terrorists not to pose any threat to the country, for the world needs peace and Thailand is a Buddhist country that maintains peace as well. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-01-14

Well that's ok then, you tell'em Khun Surapong.....no need to worry now

In Topic: Samsung Galaxy Note

2011-09-08 14:58:05

Galaxy Note has turned up here for preorder at 600GBP including VAT.

That's about $950 (USD)

In Topic: Germans Decline Comment On Thaksin Visit Claim

2011-07-29 00:02:10

JurgenG, on 2011-07-28 22:25:11, said:

rixalex, on 2011-07-28 17:29:41, said:

wave, on 2011-07-28 17:11:01, said:

Fair point, but, considering that he's been able to travel relatively easily for the last 5 years the conviction has had little impact in his ability to obtain visas. Taking this into account it would be fair to assume that the countries that have issued him visas in the past placed little importance in him being a convicted criminal. Feel free to draw your own conclusions.....

I'm not so sure that travelling for him has been that easy, otherwise why choose the places that he has chosen to reside? I can't imagine Montenegro would have been his first choice - no offence to Montenegrans.

As for the countries that have allowed him to enter, what chance do you think you and i would have had, were we convicted criminals on the run, of successfully obtaining visas? Zero i would say. Now would that be because they believe we are guilty of our convictions, but can't believe Thaksin is, or because we are normal everyday chaps with normal everyday bank accounts, whereas Thaksin is a billionaire with money to invest? Feel free to draw your own conclusions...

You both would make more sense if Thaksin were a convicted criminal on the run

But, as far as foreign countries are involved, he is not.

He is a democratically elected PM on exile following a military coup. Until recently he would have been most welcomed anywhere in the world as long as he refrains from political activities. What he refused to do and that was the reason of his troubles.

Now that he is no longer considered an opponent (for obvious reasons) to a friendly foreign government, he is welcome again.

End of the story.

It would be nice and more constructive if you stick with facts instead of building scenarios on imaginary assumptions.

If we were democratically elected PM's ousted in a military coup I think there would be a good chance of us receiving visas. This is what I was alluding to in my previous posts.

JurgenG is spot on with his analysis.

In Topic: Germans Decline Comment On Thaksin Visit Claim

2011-07-28 17:11:01

rixalex, on 2011-07-28 15:49:09, said:

wave, on 2011-07-28 15:40:34, said:

The reality is any extradition request based on the corruption conviction in Thailand would most likely be thrown out of court.... a lawyer would be able to effectively argue that the charges were politicly motivated.

I don't recall the government actually going to court to file extradition charges, no doubt they were also aware of the likely outcome.

The discussion of extradition charges is quite different from the discussion of visas and bans. Getting convicted criminals back to serve sentences is rarely easily, and there are numerous cases of this. Doesn't necessarily reflect on the validity of the conviction.

In Topic: Germans Decline Comment On Thaksin Visit Claim

2011-07-28 15:40:34

rixalex, on 2011-07-28 15:12:07, said:

JurgenG, on 2011-07-28 14:59:14, said:

You get it wrong.

It's in the opening post : " The German government declared Thaksin persona non grata, banning him from entering the country, after his repeated phone-in addresses to anti-government rallies in Thailand."

I am aware that was the reason given for the ban, but would still have thought that the criminal conviction played a part in the decision. If not, it certainly should have affected his visa application.

JurgenG, on 2011-07-28 14:59:14, said:

The ban was not based on his "conviction" (no democracy will recognized a conviction by a military junta that has ousted a democratically elected government) but because no country will accept that someone conducts from its soil hostile activities against a friendly government. It's the same reason why Thaksin was banned from the UK.

Now that, for obvious reasons, Thaksin has stopped his "hostile" activities, there is no more reason to stop him to visit the country.

You get it wrong.

For one, the conviction was passed down by the Thai courts, not by the junta, and the decision was made whilst Thaksin's proxy party held office, and for two, the UK did not ban him, they simply denied to renew his visa request.