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In Topic: 1988 Lockerbie Bomber Al-Megrahi Dies In Tripoli

Yesterday, 17:55

View PostScott, on Yesterday, 17:18 , said:

I was corrected by a poster on the point of the trial being held in Scotland.  It wasn't.

(But it wasn't held in the US if that helps keep the thread on topic).

Scott, you and your anonymous poster are correct.  Here is what Wikipedia has to say about the venue:

The Pan Am Flight 103 bombing trial began on 3 May 2000, 11 years, 4 months and 13 days after the destruction of Pan Am Flight 103 on 21 December 1988. The 36-week trial took place at a specially convened Scottish Court in the Netherlands set up under Scots law and held at a disused United States Air Force base called Camp Zeist near Utrecht.

http://en.wikipedia....3_bombing_trial

However, it does not alter the fact that Scots law and Scottish judges were used as the prevailing authority.

Otherwise, my mistake.

In Topic: How Much Chance That I Will Get My Things Back?

Yesterday, 15:49

View PostBookMan, on Yesterday, 13:04 , said:

Sorry to hear about your bagsnatch, these crimes can be very traumatic.

A similar thing happened to my GF in Australia years back.  She lost her bag with personal items in.

I searched the surrounding laneways, looking over each back fence, and 20 minutes later found her bag, minus purse, on the roof of a carport one street away, which was very lucky.

It is not uncommon for thieves to ditch what they have stolen as quick as possible, when it comes to bags etcera, esp. if they just want the cash and sellable items.

It has been a few days, but someone might be able to have a look around the area, maybe ask about, look into a nook or cranny?

It might seem like a longshot, but you never know.


We had our house in Pattaya burglarized a few years ago.  They didn't catch the guy that did it but he left his back pack in the house when he ran off.  Inside the bag they found a couple of pawn tickets so we got those items back (golf clubs, TV) but little else.

The thief was killed in a motorcycle accident a couple of months later so that was my day in court.

Look in pawn shops would be my suggestion but there are so many of them it would be a tremendous undertaking.  

Good luck.

In Topic: Inventor Of TV Remote Control Dies At Age 96

Yesterday, 15:40

At least the dog didn't carry it off and chew on it.

In Topic: 1988 Lockerbie Bomber Al-Megrahi Dies In Tripoli

Yesterday, 09:16

View PostExsexyman, on Yesterday, 06:07 , said:

View PostGentlemanJim, on 2012-05-26 08:29:56, said:

View PostUlysses G., on 2012-05-25 19:37:18, said:

View Postkoheesti, on 2012-05-25 18:26:55, said:

As for the Lockerbie bomber, it's interesting to find people who think he was innocent. Not that anything around here surprises me anymore.

That is for sure. Posted Image

I don't quite understand where the two of you are going with this. Are you trying to say that miscarriages of justice do not take place? Are you implying that courts do not make mistakes? A quick google will expose a number of cases recently where in the US it has been found beyond all doubt that innocent men were convicted of crimes they did not commit and subsequently executed. If you take the time to google and read, how can you then not be left with questions as to the robustness of the case against Megrahi. The relatives of those killed on Pan Am 103 deserve justice, not to be sold some convenient story that washes the entire issue under the carpet for all time. Dr Jim Swire has been campaigning for years to get an independent inquiry, why would he do that? Why would he just not let it rest in the knowledge that the Government had jailed his daughters killer? The answer is because he did not believe it, the evidence was not robust, in fact quite the opposite.

Koheesti, you have already expressed how you are sure that Presidents lie, good for you, does it not cross your mind for one moment with the evidence at hand that Presidents and Prime Ministers lied in this case? The thing that really puts the fish bone in my throat and should do yours, is that the real mass murderer is still out there living a fine life, whilst a rotting corpse takes the blame. The people responsible should be behind bars for life, but they are not, and likely never will be now. Talk about getting away with murder!
Gentleman Jim, you really are wasting your time here. Despite the overwhelming evidence that Al Magrahi was innocent of this outrage, you will never convince the American Firsters with their closed minds otherwise. You may as well urge Count Dracula to get up at sunrise and eat more vegetables!


Why are you referring to the so called "American Firsters" in this context.

As I recall the trial for Magrahi was held in Scotland before a group of Scottish judges with appellate jurisdiction held by the courts of Scotland.

Blame the Scots, even if it doesn't fit your agenda.Posted Image

In Topic: 1988 Lockerbie Bomber Al-Megrahi Dies In Tripoli

2012-05-26 19:56:00

View PostKhaoNiaw, on 2012-05-26 18:38:45, said:

View Postkoheesti, on 2012-05-26 17:39:34, said:

My original statement above about this isn't meant to be cryptic. I haven't read about the Lockerbie case in great detail (since the 1980;'s anyway) but until this thread, I never read that Megrahi was innocent.
I think there were always questions from the beginning. You don't have to believe in wider conspiracies to see Megrahi's innocence in this case.

If you watch the documentary I posted earlier, you'll see that the Scottish Criminal Case Review Commission, an independent body, produced a report which pretty well exonerates Megrahi - but basically no-one is allowed to read it.

Scientific evidence regarding the timer used in the bomb is proved to be false. Other evidence regarding the identification of Megrahi doesn't stand up.

A senior police officer believes the process and conviction were completely flawed.

If this was all presented at his trial, it's rather unlikely that he would have been convicted.



"If this was all presented at his trial, it's rather unlikely that he would have been convicted."

But it wasn't...and he was.

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