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taninthai, on 2010-10-01 16:27:28, said:

But now you are thinking like a farang, like a farang in farangland observation and not  Thai.

robblok, on 2010-10-01 16:14:44, said:

I do believe in LOS love really is a secondary thought, from both sides, and perhaps not a thought at all, it's about food on the table and a roof.

( The jealousy bit was for fun, not a serious comment )

I don't see may girls sticking with guys with no money in any country.  All seems rosy and dandy until the bank balance gets low.

We all read a lot here and get used to the old farang guy marrying a young lady from Isaan, and many knock it, continuously.
( jealousy really )

I am in Isaan and my localish beer shop is run by a Thai husband and wife, he speaks English to me when l go for a beer or two as he was a teacher of English. My point is, she is around 35 and he is 74. I asked the mrs why she married an older guy, she said cos he had a good job and now a pension and has set her up with the wee shop for her future. She has never been down south or sold her body. So, what do the knockers say now. Not just a farang thing is it.

Would add the caution in regard to microwave ovens it is not just the voltage that is a danger but the case is designed to trap the radiation inside the oven and the case is an integral part of the process so must be put back together exactly right to keep it intact.  You do not want extra radiation in your kitchen over the long term.

That said I would not let the local TV repair man here do the job either.  In this case believe the warnings to leave service to factory trained techs is valid.

I don't know for sure, but guessing the 1/2 life of a magnatron is about 100 times that of a single guy in LOS.  

Whats The Strangest Thing You've Ever Seen Here? It must be the army killing Red-shirts; because it is NOT possible at all, as the army are instructed NOT to shoot using REAL bullets.

Internet addiction disorder (IAD), or, more broadly, Internet overuse, problematic computer use or pathological computer use, is excessive computer use that interferes with daily life.^[1] These terms avoid the distracting and divisive term addiction and are not limited to any single cause.

IAD was originally proposed as a disorder in a satirical hoax by Ivan Goldberg, M.D., in 1995.^[2] He took pathological gambling as diagnosed by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) as his model for the description^[3] of IAD. It is not however included in the current DSM as of 2009. IAD receives coverage in the press, and possible future classification as a psychological disorder continues to be debated and researched.

Online activities which, if done in person, would normally be considered troublesome, such as compulsive gambling or shopping, are sometimes called net compulsions.^[4] Others, such as reading or playing computer games, are troubling only to the extent that these activities interfere with normal life. Supporters of disorder classification often divide IAD into subtypes by activity, such as excessive, overwhelming, or inappropriate pornography use,^[5] gaming,^[6] online social networking, blogging,^[7] email^[8], or Internet shopping.^[9] Opponents note that compulsive behaviors may not themselves be addictive.^[10]

mrtoad, on 2010-09-26 23:13:02, said:

Because anyone can do a search and find a million hits ?   a reference for what Internet Addiction ?   Beta Blockers ? .... come on dude who are you trying to kid your search engine is so bad it can't find anything ?   Who do you think believes that ?

maybe its the beta blocker thing   ..... beta blockers are mostly used for the heart  .... they reduce stress hormones and are used by some for addiction     Dopamine blockers are also used as dopamine is what feel good drugs and behaviors produce ...... it's quite common to be used but I personally thing treating addictions with drugs is silly

mrtoad, on 2010-09-26 23:02:21, said:

         Like I said I am an expert in the results of this issue not the treatment of this or any other addictions .......... I am not suggesting any form of treatment or offering any diagnosis either . ..... my expertise and studies are in the results of the problem not the cure

       Their is tons of research available you could just google it and spend a month reading about it ......... what did I not answer ?

mrtoad, on 2010-09-26 22:38:54, said:

           You seem a little argumentative ........ the reason they would be used by people other than me is because it reduces stress hormones,  I am not going to find research for you sorry.
          
           Dopamine blockers would be used by some as well for the same basic reason of fooling the brain ... not to reduce the stress hormone ..... I am not condoning any drug use to solve addiction just saying what others sometimes do

           You don't seem like you have a disorder to me but I am not a Doctor ...... most people would say that if you think you might have a problem it's best to find out for sure

           My suggested therapy would be the same for all addicts .......... just stop doing it, and if you can't go to an addiction treatment specialist

           My focus has always been on the results of this issue not the treatment of it so I am not really interested in or qualified to advise what treatment is better than another ..........  their are plenty to chose from for sure

Thules, on 2010-09-26 21:01:32, said:

  It's called Internet Addiction  ..... you can find many centers and websites for help ......... the therapy is pretty similar to other addictions and I would not advise drugs to solve addiction like using methadone for example, but yes some doctors would advise that mostly in the from of beta blockers the theory being that while the internet addiction stimulus is removed the beta blockers fool the brain into not noticing.

     But once again internet addiction is most often simply a result of another condition like Anti Social Personality Disorder   ...........  A Doctor would try and find out WHY they had an internet addiction and treat the root cause

mojo80, on 2010-09-26 20:58:56, said:

               I was am a bit of an expert in this ....... I have always wondered how chat rooms would effect the shut in's or anti social which of course gravitate to them in great numbers, Mentally ill people with very little money or friends use chat rooms in great numbers ...... The studies and results are pretty clear at this point.

                One note I would make is it's not the number of posts a person makes, someone who posted 10000 posts might only spend 20 min a day over years, it's a matter of TIME and how much internet time vs time spent in other social situations, so even if it was only 20 min on the net but 0 elsewhere it might be a problem, but most of the time it's on the net unless they have to buy food or go to work or sleep ect.

             Well as far as being sorry .... you might not be sorry today but as I have stated it gets worse and worse ....  if you almost feel sorry today in 10 years that person with the same pattern of behavior will be in real trouble while making up stories about his golfing buddies or parties he has gone to ect.   The over the top kind of behavior is just like when an alcoholic lies about drinking they start to lie about all the fun things off the internet they do.  They are already living in a fantasy world on the net and then it extends to making up a non net fantasy world to show they are really just like everyone else but just a really fast typist !

             In the beginning people thought that it could just be another safe alternative to drinking addictions or some other obsession and would have no impact on the overall mental health of someone if they just chatted all day every day in a healthy appropriate manner, that has been shown to be false except in VERY rare situations, mostly involving work not entertainment, the reason being on the net even a nice otherwise friendly person can lose their temper much more easily and begins to develop new habits and behavior over time. They become less tolerant more aggressive they begin to dismiss people who their friend says is unfriendly and become much more group controlled rather than an individual.  In the real world you might just ignore someone because they are a nut ..... on the net you can get some feel good reaction in the brain by saying ...YOUR ON IGNORE ..... So the nice little old lady who would never have said that face to face now begins a habit of new behavior because it makes her brain feel good.  And it's complemented when her friends say good job or agree. Sometimes chat rooms even escalate to people calling the police because the overall chat behaviors become so crazy ......  the police become involved not because anyone was harmed but are used as a chat room patsy for some addicted chatter, this in much more common than you might think, addicted chatters calling the police to try and retaliate against some chatter, or even making up stories to the chat room and saying they called the police when they know that would be nonsense.

            

          

I think so yes, but it's not just Thai related, many people in the world have this internet problem.  Most of the time it's because of a social disorder, they have trouble in social situations, making friends, keeping friends, thinking people are out to get them so they can't get the interactions all humans need.  So they find a captive group like the internet where even the most extreme person can have a friend to get the social interactions they need.  Interestingly negative responses feed the same need, so often times those kinds of people become pestering or harassing and say people are picking on them.  They often create controversy so it can be all about them. What happens in the end studies show is that other like minded people come along and some chat room becomes dominated by these types of people in the end and those who speak out against them get run off or banned.  

     I am not sure if it is good or bad .... I am glad these people have" places to go " but studies show that the behavior and the disorder actually becomes worse, in real life people would walk away or maybe punch someone, so the person would have to change his personality disorder, on the internet they end up actually taking a large amount of control of the situation and that feeds and increases the ego and disorder making the people falsely believe it's everyone else who is "crazy".  They may dominate a chat room and make numerous complaints over the years about numerous things and people and rather than being made to know that they are the root of all these problems and the cause they mistakenly feel like the chat room hero and the problem worsens.


   It is very rare for this type of person without actually getting medical help to be able to overcome this.  Over time it gets worse and worse and harder and harder to cure, the patent will without proper help almost never be able to reenter a world of human interaction with ease.  This is because people face to face don't have moderators and you can't ban john from the local coffee shop because he used a racial slur in the grocery store, and people face to face don't tolerate sarcasm or or other rude behaviors that they are in the habit of doing, just because it falls within the chat room rules.


   The real problem is that the reason people spend each and evey day in a chat room is because they were already a failure outside of it so going back when your habits, behaviors and expectations are now worsened is very hard.  ..... Saying all that I think keeping people like that or at least giving them, an opportunity to have these "places to go" is better for everyone outside of the chat rooms so as to not have to deal with them.  And since they will probably never be all that happy anyplace else I am glad they have somewhere to go.

   The bottom line is the normal or non addicted person only comes and goes and can take it or leave it so it's no big thing to them ........Sso lets not belittle the disabled person who has very few other options barring medical help