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I see on this thread many people I assume to be falang males and sexually active in Thailand talking about Thai ladies and their activities and status regarding HIV, to you I say this - you have absolutly no right to post or discuss such things about Thai women on any forum until you can say without doubt that you have taken steps on a regular basis to ensure you are STD free, the - it would never happen to me attitude - from many people is what untimately spreads these diseases including HIV
I must admit I get angry when my friends on holiday here brag about going bareback with many women over the weeks/months they are here - it is careless and irresponsible
#5150221 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-20 16:56:10
#5149301 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-20 12:00:52
smedly, on 2012-03-20 11:51:47, said:
SPIKECM, on 2012-03-20 11:32:14, said:
smedly, on 2012-03-20 03:11:57, said:
I'll do a sumary of this whole thread
1. Ignore the numbers game as it actually means nothing to individuals, discussing it is pointless
2. If you have not had an HIV test go imediatelay and get one (along with your partner if you have one), if you don't you are irresponsible to yourself and risk infecting other people you come in contact with, the thought being assume you have it unless proven otherwise - seriously - that is how you must look at this as far as I can see, because the people that don't know are the extreme risk factor in this mess - not the people that have it and are being treated.
3. If in doubt (which is nearly always) - use protection
Liike in an earlier post I commented - I can't understand my friends on holiday here and refuse to wear protection - maybe having unprotected sex with 30 - 40 women over a couple of months - that means if the first one had...... you do the figures
1. Ignore the numbers game as it actually means nothing to individuals, discussing it is pointless
2. If you have not had an HIV test go imediatelay and get one (along with your partner if you have one), if you don't you are irresponsible to yourself and risk infecting other people you come in contact with, the thought being assume you have it unless proven otherwise - seriously - that is how you must look at this as far as I can see, because the people that don't know are the extreme risk factor in this mess - not the people that have it and are being treated.
3. If in doubt (which is nearly always) - use protection
Liike in an earlier post I commented - I can't understand my friends on holiday here and refuse to wear protection - maybe having unprotected sex with 30 - 40 women over a couple of months - that means if the first one had...... you do the figures
...in normal sex with natural vaginal lubrication, the chance of HIV infection passing on is, in truth, not that high. I agree it is risky and rather stupid not to wear a condom, but you can't "do the figures" by assuming every sexual encounter passes on HIV.
Yes I do understand that - are you advocating people should just ignore the risk - isn't that why millions of people worldwide have this disease, the WHO are trying to stop the spread of HIV and according to them the best way to do that is to make sure that everyone that is indected knows they are and are on effective treatment, so it stands to reason that the most dangerous people are those that don't practise safe sex and have many casual encounters but refuse to get screened - these are the people who are currently spreading this disease and most likely dieing from it because by the time they find out they have it they are already very ill and have most likely infected many others along the way
Although it seems to be fairly difficult to pass from female to male I'm not sure about the male to female assuming unprotected intercourse - don't know ebough about it
I try to be a straight up guy and do things right. I went to the clinic and got an HIV test. The head nurse from the clinic called me up at 8 PM one night and told me that the results of my tests were in. I got the HIV test and all the other smear tests too, it was 500 baht. She told me everything was OK and we chatted a bit on the phone and I picked her up for a late dinner after she got off of work. You wouldn’t think a condom was necessary would you??? She had chlamydia.
Is there a moral to my story? Yes there is.
#5148851 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-20 09:19:29
marstons, on 2012-03-20 00:28:41, said:
CMTourist, on 2012-03-18 19:12:14, said:
makescents, on 2012-03-18 19:00:11, said:
Figures.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
When I first came here 20 years ago every girl insisted on condom use for fear of HIV. Now they all say they don't like condoms and don't want me to use one. And I'm not talking about hookers here, but girls you would consider educated and with an ability to think about the future.
The 20-25 age group in particular seem to have no fear of HIV at all.
this suprised me, i have relationships with none bar girls, usually with good jobs and degree's and as yet not one has even mentioned a condom. guess the flip side is neither did i.
I never got an STD from a bar girl. 2 nurses, a 7/11 clerk but never a bar girl.
#5145166 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-18 21:09:59
CMTourist, on 2012-03-18 19:12:14, said:
makescents, on 2012-03-18 19:00:11, said:
Figures.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
When I first came here 20 years ago every girl insisted on condom use for fear of HIV. Now they all say they don't like condoms and don't want me to use one. And I'm not talking about hookers here, but girls you would consider educated and with an ability to think about the future.
The 20-25 age group in particular seem to have no fear of HIV at all.
Quite a few sexpats here who don't even bother with condoms. Hope they get tested. I have no idea how somebody could do that to themselves. They must be mad.
#5145050 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-18 20:15:14
CMTourist, on 2012-03-18 19:12:14, said:
makescents, on 2012-03-18 19:00:11, said:
Figures.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
When I first came here 20 years ago every girl insisted on condom use for fear of HIV. Now they all say they don't like condoms and don't want me to use one. And I'm not talking about hookers here, but girls you would consider educated and with an ability to think about the future.
The 20-25 age group in particular seem to have no fear of HIV at all.
That is why hookers are a LOT safer. they always insist on condoms, because they know the risks.
#5145001 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-18 19:57:30
Robroy, on 2012-03-18 19:27:27, said:
With 1 in 60 Thais infected, that would surely mean a much higher proportion among sex workers.
One in 7?
One in 5?
(Here in Cambodia it's one in 8.)
One in 7?
One in 5?
(Here in Cambodia it's one in 8.)
I would have thought that sex workers would be more aware of the risks than the average young Thai.
#5144882 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-18 19:12:14
makescents, on 2012-03-18 19:00:11, said:
Figures.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
My current and previous girlfriends had no clue about contraceptives and STDs.
When I first came here 20 years ago every girl insisted on condom use for fear of HIV. Now they all say they don't like condoms and don't want me to use one. And I'm not talking about hookers here, but girls you would consider educated and with an ability to think about the future.
The 20-25 age group in particular seem to have no fear of HIV at all.
#5144876 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-18 19:10:18
harleyclarkey, on 2012-03-18 19:04:13, said:
As with most countries this is the figure that they are fairly confident about. The real figure is much higher.
What a shame something so pleasurable and so much fun...sex, can now be like playing Russian Roulette.
What a shame something so pleasurable and so much fun...sex, can now be like playing Russian Roulette.
Once upon a time motor racing was dangerous and sex was safe, now it is vice versa
#5144874 Over 1 Million Thais Are Infected With Hiv/Aids
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on 2012-03-18 19:09:53
Wonder how many not reported or mis-diagnosed
#5153003 Automatic Gates To Ease Congestion At Suvarnabhumi Airport
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on 2012-03-21 16:55:02
Soutpeel, on 2012-03-21 16:35:10, said:
Way to go Khun deputy transport minister...just one flaw in your cunning plan are not the vast majority of personages being held up actually non-thai passport holders, therefore installing these will actually do very little to easy any congestion ?
They free up immigration staff who can then man the non-Thai booths.
#5152935 Automatic Gates To Ease Congestion At Suvarnabhumi Airport
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on 2012-03-21 16:35:17
automatic gates , good but its for Thais ... what % of foreigners and Thais travel at Suvharnabumi airport ? I often noticed some officers are faster than others ... maybe a good training should help also. But for a new airport as Bangkok , that's a bit of shame !
#5151937 Iranian Admits To Bangkok Blasts But Won't Reveal Motives
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on 2012-03-21 10:29:27
Could the one link that a killed over 5,000 people in the southern provinces have any thing to do with it.
Road side bombs and suicide bombs are not uncommon to these people.
And if you speak out against their views they feel justified in violence. Happens in many parts of the world.
Road side bombs and suicide bombs are not uncommon to these people.
And if you speak out against their views they feel justified in violence. Happens in many parts of the world.
#5151920 Iranian Admits To Bangkok Blasts But Won't Reveal Motives
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on 2012-03-21 10:21:36
a good waterboarding should get him talking within a few minutes
#5156025 Foreigner Assaulted At Bangkok BTS Station By Security Guard - Police Launch...
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on 2012-03-22 17:33:12
KunMatt, on 2012-03-22 17:24:32, said:
You said it exactly right "its irrelevant what they are", the guard is making an issue out of nothing. Considering that you can buy 10" hunting knives, swords, mace, replica guns etc, on the street as you are walking into the BTS do you really think this guard gives a flying screw about this guy carrying more than his allowed quota of balloons??
It is about somebody (probably both parties) pushing their authority too far and the use of excessive potentially deadly force which is what you are defending and saying is just.
It is about somebody (probably both parties) pushing their authority too far and the use of excessive potentially deadly force which is what you are defending and saying is just.
I am not defending the farang being hit ... but I haven't seen how that happened.
The guard is following the rules. I have seen on many occasions where people were not allowed on with balloons.
I am defending the guards trying to stop him from going up to the platform with the balloons.
