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In Topic: Huge Shake Here In Kata

2012-04-19 17:43:25

View PostOld Croc, on 2012-04-18 09:55:25, said:

The poster from Korat, who seems to know all about the quake we had on Phuket without experiencing it, intimated the guy was a victim of unnecessary panic during the second evacuation.
I merely pointed out facts known without speculation.


Obviously you are not veru good in your fact finding... why would you believe that I am located in Khorat -- even though my profile actually states otherwise, I talked about being in the traffic during the event itself, posted a link to a photo gallery.


'Nuff said.

In Topic: Huge Shake Here In Kata

2012-04-17 16:37:21

View Postjts-khorat, on 2012-04-17 08:24:59, said:

View PostNomadJoe, on 2012-04-17 04:08:26, said:

View Postjts-khorat, on 2012-04-16 19:25:25, said:

A wave from Indonesia takes literally hours. Time to go home without panic, fire up the computer and get the *right* info, pack a few thinks like a blanket, rain jacket, and a few things to eat (maybe not *just* enough for yourself), then orderly proceed to the best-suited mountain/high rise/etc. In case of being a tourist, if you have the time and can, get your passport and some money, because in case of a real problem you will need it.


But not every tsunami come from Indonesia. I'm not advising panic, but a tsunami created just off shore, however unlikely, could arrive in minutes. Tsunami's can also be created by underwater landslides and volcanic eruptions. In fact you may not even have the luxury of  an earthquake to warn us of those, only our occasionally missing and flat batteried tsunami buoys. I think your advice is just a bit on the side of complacency. Perhaps your experience has solidified in your mind what a tsunami is. That assumption is incorrect. You can't assume anything.

No, we are discussing not a theoretical event, but an event where the quake was felt, with clear information about its source, and additionally I am advising to monitor the relevant information coming forward.

Yes, there could be other scenarios and sources, like a large quake in the Andaman islands; a tsunami would be reaching Phuket in 20 minutes. You would be also safe of any possible imaginable tsunami wave if you walked past Jungceylon or past the police station towards Nanai Road.

Still no need wrecking your car or driving over other fleeing pedestrians in your panic-stricken fight to reach first the perceived safety of a mountain top.

I hope we agree at least about the last point.


I hate it when I am right on the obvious things: Dane dies of blood loss after Phuket tsunami evacuation

http://phuketgazette...ticle12823.html

In Topic: Huge Shake Here In Kata

2012-04-17 08:24:59

View PostNomadJoe, on 2012-04-17 04:08:26, said:

View Postjts-khorat, on 2012-04-16 19:25:25, said:

A wave from Indonesia takes literally hours. Time to go home without panic, fire up the computer and get the *right* info, pack a few thinks like a blanket, rain jacket, and a few things to eat (maybe not *just* enough for yourself), then orderly proceed to the best-suited mountain/high rise/etc. In case of being a tourist, if you have the time and can, get your passport and some money, because in case of a real problem you will need it.


But not every tsunami come from Indonesia. I'm not advising panic, but a tsunami created just off shore, however unlikely, could arrive in minutes. Tsunami's can also be created by underwater landslides and volcanic eruptions. In fact you may not even have the luxury of  an earthquake to warn us of those, only our occasionally missing and flat batteried tsunami buoys. I think your advice is just a bit on the side of complacency. Perhaps your experience has solidified in your mind what a tsunami is. That assumption is incorrect. You can't assume anything.

No, we are discussing not a theoretical event, but an event where the quake was felt, with clear information about its source, and additionally I am advising to monitor the relevant information coming forward.

Yes, there could be other scenarios and sources, like a large quake in the Andaman islands; a tsunami would be reaching Phuket in 20 minutes. You would be also safe of any possible imaginable tsunami wave if you walked past Jungceylon or past the police station towards Nanai Road.

Still no need wrecking your car or driving over other fleeing pedestrians in your panic-stricken fight to reach first the perceived safety of a mountain top.

I hope we agree at least about the last point.

In Topic: Huge Shake Here In Kata

2012-04-16 20:02:05

View Postoilinki, on 2012-04-16 19:50:29, said:

You are very well informed. You know where to find the information and you likely have one of the earth quake monitoring sites on you bookmarks. You also came here to seek for further information. You belong to the 0.42% of the Phuket population who are this well informed. Most of the people are not. They don't know where to go to online get more information.

Fair point. But still, fleeing blindly and unprepared is not the better option to making an informed decision after assessing the risk. As I said, the process of fleeing with the crazy crowd had -- on April 11 -- a much higher chance of getting you and your loved ones injured.

Also, nearly any of the Thai people I know have by now a smart phone; funny enough, I am the one without, with just a phone "for calling". Most of the Thais I know also play around on Facebook all day.

You want information in Thai, go here: http://www.facebook.com/EarthquakeTMD
or here: http://www.tmd.go.th...uake_report.php

It is not as difficult as you make it out to be; you find this info very easily if you search for earthquake information in Thai in Facebook or Google. This is the year 2012 and who is uninformed is in reality most likely just uninterested. This is even true for the Thais.

In Topic: Huge Shake Here In Kata

2012-04-16 19:35:38

View Postmoskito, on 2012-04-16 18:53:49, said:

View Postmoskito, on 2012-04-16 18:49:31, said:

View PostOld Croc, on 2012-04-16 16:50:41, said:

Yes, in Chalong. Didn't feel the last one, but that was a hell of a bump!

same here, Nai Harn area, was more like a shake when a jet hit the sound barrier, not long, just a sec


BTW... has ANYBODY heard the TSUNAMI Towers working ANYWHERE on the island last week ???
Nai Harn Beach and Rawaqi Beach Towers not working, even if there is no Tsunami, the WARNING Towers should work...OR NOT?  

wow just saw that was post number 1000 ... how much time wasted here in TV Posted Image

The warning tower in Patong sounded indeed. Police and helpers were out very quick to alarm anybody who did not know what had happened and ushered stragglers on as it becamse obvious that there was indeed a tsunami warning out.

Even though the Thai news got it too early by an hour, the Pacific Warning Centers advisory that came out only minutes after the quake, that a potential tsunami could reach Phuket by 18:28, was nearly completely accurate (the biggest wave there was still barely visible).

A photo gallery with a picture of the wave is here, for those who want to inform themselves: http://www.facebook....80990341&type=1

An earth quake 30 times weaker than the last one had from the outset little potential to create a bigger wave. So panic, already after having this information that the quake was less than 6, would be completely wrong.

The main risk to anybody being in Patong on April 11 was actually not the tsunami, but getting maimed in traffic (a risk in general) by some fleeing idiot and then emergency services being so bogged down by even more idiots, that you would be long bled out on the street before you can ever reach hospital.

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