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In Topic: Law Prohibiting Marriage To Foreigners Over The Age Of 50 Proposed To Thai Ca...

2011-04-01 20:41:25

View Postshroomer, on 2011-04-01 07:38:16, said:

In response to JohnHender.
sometimes i think Thai women just deseverse Thai guys"

What a stupid comment. Thai men are like any other, some good, some bad.


I agree with John Hender. It would  be difficult to find a farang on the avg. that would treat a Thai woman as bad as does a Thai man with their macho ways and their belief that a wife is simply their property. I just wonder how long you have lived in this country to think that JohnHender is wrong. I live in Thailand and I say JohnHender hit the nail on the head. The vast majority of Thai men hate Caucasians. That is the reason for this law. It is racist but so is the whole country. Thia men spend their lives lying and never think a thing about it. They absolutely cannot be trusted. When a Thai man says he will do something for you that means he has already done it. Yes, I am married to a Thai and she doesn't think any better of Thai men than I do. And "innocent" Thai girls? Give me a break.

In Topic: Thailand Rejects Foreign Election Monitors

2011-03-25 14:54:01

View PostPi Sek, on 2011-03-25 14:20:21, said:

View PostOberkommando, on 2011-03-25 14:15:52, said:

View PostNisa, on 2011-03-25 12:25:23, said:

I disagree in your comparison.  It is not uncommon  for Minority politicians in the west (at least in the US) to make comments that attack those with more power than them as well as accusing them of bad intentions against their people.  In other words it is much more okay to slam other groups, societies or people that are stronger when it is done by those with less power.

As for Farang being a derogatory term, it is not. Although it generally used to describe white westerners it also can simply mean foreigners. Thailand is a different culture and they have no issue with calling a race or group what they are.  Asian is by no means a derogatory term but it would be considered derogatory in the West for a waiter to tell the busboy to get those Asians a drink.  In Thailand this it is perfectly acceptable.

While I have no doubt he made a mistake in the words he chose (if translated properly) I am very confident his words were not meant to be racist in any way shape or form. But bottom line is this is not the West and it is their country run on the way they choose good or bad and it is not our place to tell them how to do things or that they should obey political correctness that may exist in the west and we should be offended when they don't adhere to our views. They may fail but it will be their failure and they certainly have the right to pick and choose how they will use the west to further their goals. The bottom line we are guests in THEIR country and WE need to adapt to them ... not the other way around.

The word farang can and is used in a derogatory and demeaning manner and it is not correct for a politician to be referring to a group of people in that manner however I am quite sure his meaning was properly conveyed and the lack of respect intentionally meant. Suthep is an arrogant and thoroughly despicable individual from what I know of him. The point was that he intentionally, whether racist or not, sets out to disrespect foreigners and in particular Westerners to curry favour when he simply could have said international observers were not wanted tells you everything you need to know.

Thai politics since the late 90's has been built on racist, nationalist and xenophobic policy to appeal to the masses. Thaksin was the master.

Your argument that racism is ok because the Thais are ok with insulting other races is of course flawed but as usual you stretch to apologise and defend everything they do with the old we are guests chestnut and if you don't like it go home, the  Thais can do what they want it's their country nonsense tacked on for good measure.

Spot on - we finally agree on something ;)
I also agree. There is no reason to apologise for the rudeness and arrogance of Thai men or their corruption. Us hated farangs spend a lot of money in this country. The Thais like our money but not us. We have a right to speak up and though we are 'guests" we pay plenty - check the cost of a Retirment Visa - to stay here. To a Thai a promise is something they already did. Thai policies are racist, nationalist, and xenophobic. How can any sane person deny that. I live here permanently & I will not be driven out.

In Topic: Thailand Rejects Foreign Election Monitors

2011-03-25 14:18:54

View Postsoftgeorge, on 2011-03-24 16:50:08, said:

Can't be democratically elected if someone is there making sure it is legal and above board.  They pay good money for votes


International monitors - they do not all have to be the Caucasian farangs Suthep hates so much - is a good idea to keep the Red Shirts from saying the election was rigged by the Democrat Party. Of course millions of dollars will not be passed out to the rural poor and the city slickers in Bangkok, so that will surely hurt to not spread the wealth a little. I think Suthep hates Whites and I believe that 90% of Thai men agree with him and would like for all farangs to get the Hell out of Thailand. Come for two weeks, spend your money (Thai men will cheat you out of much of it - always smiling and acting like your friend)and get the Hell out! I am a permanent resident of Phuket and I can tell you that the vast majority of Thai men hate Whites/Caucasians. Each year the Immigration laws make it more difficult for a Caucasian farang to stay in this country. Hint? Even this so-called pro-Western PM has done nothing but make it more difficult in all ways for a farang to live here. I had high hopes when he first took office but he has done absolutely nothing. And, that is a mistake. Throw some crumbs to the poor/rural Red Shirts and they will back off a bit. Thaksin promised them the world and they are willing to this day to fight and die for him as they did in Bangkok. They will return soon. Thai politicians are so stupid. Suthep is not the only great Thai savior and diplomat. He just said what he and nearly all Thais believe.

In Topic: Thailand Rejects Foreign Election Monitors

2011-03-25 13:30:24

View PostInsight, on 2011-03-24 16:22:58, said:

Suthep's comments might seem a bit harsh and inappropriate (they are!), but if you ask any Thai - who isn't an ardent red shirt - how they feel about foreign election monitors, you'll probably get a similar response!


Very stupid and unprofessional for such a senior government official to voice his lack of respect, actually hate, for farangs. Those of us who have lived in Thailand for awhile permanently learn that the vast majority of Thai men not only do not respect us, but hate all farangs. They see us as someone they can lie to and rip off. Thai men do not want us in this country. The Immigration laws get tougher every year trying to throw us out. Those farangs who believe more than 10% of Thai men do not hate them, open your eyes and ears. We are the enemy.

In Topic: 130 M16s, Other Guns Stolen From Thai Army Depot

2011-03-05 12:15:20

View Postsupaprik, on 2011-03-04 13:16:02, said:

Here we go.....Reds stole them right? gives the illegitimate government an excuse to shoot innocents again, next major protest watch the blood in the streets..... sadly.....


There are many Red Shirt terrorists in the Thai military. Certainly they work from the inside and steal weaponry. They are Rebels intet on overthrowing the government. Just like a year ago, they are marching in Bangkok, saw a mob of them marching in Chiang Mai, each week they will add a few more, just like last time. After two weeks last year I said to "nip it in the bud" before they incite violence in their attempt to put Thaksin back in power. The government tried to negotiate with people who did not want to negotitate but wanted to overthrow the government. They are planning more violence on the anniversary, thus stopping people in Bangkok from enjoying Songkran. These Red Shirts are terrorists and not "innocents." They came to make violence and they did. They are lawbreakers and have split Thailand. After burning all they could in Bangkok they went back up north and to Isan and began burning government buildings. Many foreigners left. On my recent trip to Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, and the area I saw fewer farangs than I have seen in the last 20 years in the area. Whereas, regardless of what I read of Thaivisa, I haven't seen the beaches here in Phuket more crowded in the last 10 years. There was no Red activity here and foreigners are here in huge numbers. Those women & children were paid by Thaksin forces to be there as shields for the armed Red males. They knew what they were getting into. They were hired mercenaries. "innocents?!" I think not. Weapons are being stolen by Reds within the military getting ready for the violence they intend for Bangkok to mark the first anniversary of their riots and burnings. From the drought I saw in the North, the many bus loads from the North and Northeast may not even have to be paid as much by Thaksin forces to come this year. But, you can bet, the Red Terrorists will be much better armed this time. It is sad that Abhisit is a do nothing PM. Had great hope for him at first but even what he has tried to do for Thaksin controlled northern & northeastern Thailand has been rejected and he is hated by the illiterate populace because of their Red TV and radio programs whose purpose is revolution, the overthrown of the government and to put the criminal thaksin back in office. I guess Thaksin can make friends with his Khmer Rouge murdering PM of Cambodia, Hun Sen.

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