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Sister to brother, after sex... "Hey, you're better than dad!"

Brother... "I know, mom told me"

The 42 traffic lights blinking yellow was a great move.

I have an idea. Rip out the beach footpath and trees and pave it over for more cars and vendors. Tourists will just love it!

Silly me! When I read the headline, I thought this article was about the computers for kids. Too many scams, conspiracies and corruption to keep up with....555

while it may well be exciting and fun for all the drunk tourists and sex workers, it certainly is NOT fun for people who actually live here and need to go to work or do whatever chores.

Not to mention that its 1 week of being short staffed(when running a business)

strange I have found 3BB to be pretty poor recently - maybe the last 2 weeks or so

As someone so rightly posted on another thread recently, living in Thailand is a 'trade off'. There are some wonderfully positive things about living here, and like any country there are also plenty of negatives. You have to weigh it all up and decide whether for you the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

If not, and you are constantly bothered about the 'bad  things' that sometimes happen here, and are constantly unhappy, then maybe you should consider living somewhere else.  I accept there are some farangs, due to a variety of reasons, who may be 'stuck here' but that was the risk they took when they first arrived, when they should have been aware of the pitfalls.

But just because some farangs who live here sometimes criticise the 'bad things' that doesn't mean that they think everything is bad.

As for worrying about negative comments putting off more farangs from coming here - well all I can say  in that case is 'more power to the moaners' elbows. I am happy here - always have been - but the ever increasing influx of farangs to these shores may one day reach saturation point and make it more difficult for the rest of us to stay here.

Many farangs see Pattaya through rose tinted glasses and yet more (mainly those who don't live here) think it is the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah - a virtual cesspit of humanity. Neither extreme view is true. Lets face it, the city of Pattaya grew from a sleepy fishing village into what some say is the largest urban population in Thailand outside of Bangkok on the back of prostitution. This is a fact and there's no escaping it.

An infamous red light district of the size of Pattaya will always attract the very worst dregs of society - be they Thais or farangs, which is why so many of the farangs you meet here are what one might call 'low life'. Many are/were criminals from their home countries and bring their bad habits with them and are also clearly influenced by the low level Thais with whom they seek to do business.

It is my personal opinion that some of these farangs end up being worse than their Thai cohorts - I don't know why, but even the worst of Thais seem to have some sense of honour, loyalty to friends,family, duty and even respect for their religion, but some of these farangs seem totally lacking in any moral compass whatsoever.

But Pattaya is fast shaking off the yoke of its seedy past and is transforming itself into a truly family oriented holiday resort, complete with 5 star hotels, state of the art shopping malls, cinemas, thousands of decent restaurants of almost any ethnicity and so on.

The government and city authorities have stated over and over that Pattaya is going up-market and I for one believe this to be true. It may take another 10 years  but all the time we can observe incremental changes. It is now more than possible to enjoy a wonderful family holiday in Pattaya, enjoy countless sight seeing tours and never once go anywhere near Walking Street and the seedy areas.

But all these changes take time and in the meantime we are still stuck with our corrupt police and the folk who feed off them, such as the two farangs who become embroiled in this latest little adventure.

This 'game' would not have been possible without the cooperation and connivance of the BIB who were well placed to take their cut.

londoedan, on 2012-02-22 09:46:15, said:

Yeah, looks like it. OK, let's DO IT AGAIN!!!

Need a sticky w/ a FAQ (or FAI [frequently asserted ignorance] or FAHA [frequently asserted hot air] )in this forum to avoid so much repetition of ignorance and hot air. Something like this:

SONGKRAN FAQ

Q: It stops at 6 PM
A. No, it doesn't stop at 6 PM. Try 11 PM.

Q: Motorcyclists are safe cause they wear helmets.
A. No, roads are slippery, cyclists get hit w/ blasts of water and ice making control difficult, their shields get pasted over so they can't see. It's dangerous. Have you had a motorbike accident yet? No?

Q. Just ride w/ your car windows rolled up.
A. No, the windshield gets powdered and pasted so the driver can't see. Repeat this 10 times: Some of us don't own cars. Some of our armchair Songkran experts here do drive around in their cars, though. They don't really participate, just watch.

Q: It's harmless fun
A: No, vehicle accidents do happen because of the water, powder, and ice throwing. One TV member almost lost an eye to infection. Eye and ear infections are not uncommon. Much of the water is quite filthy.

Q: It's a Thai custom, farangs should have no say
A: Thais force the farangs to participate whether they want to or not; ergo, they have a say

Q: If you don't like Songkran, you're a stick-in-the-mud
A: Lots of cool people don't like the inconvenience of Pattaya Songkran for SEVEN days. We live here and just need to live our lives. TWO days at most would be fine.

Q: Saying anything against Songkran is a whinge
A: Facts are facts. And if one has the right to chortle and gurgle in praise of Songkran, and jerk off over a water gun, one also has the right to express one's legitimate displeasure at being forcibly inconvenienced and having to spend time and money leaving the area.

Q: Where is the best place to spend Songkran?
A: Vietnam, Phils, Malaysia, definitely, in our neighborhood. Cambodia has got a favorable mention.

Q: Why does Songkran last so long in Pattaya?
A. It is usually started early by mobs of young farang idiots in the bars, notably in Sois 7 and 8. These hooligans live for Songkran season. Some will be posting in this thread. The vast Pattaya bar scene isn't noted for polite, considerate, civilized behavior; consider the type of workers and customers; reality strongly asserts itself at Songkran.

Q: Songran is a good laugh
A: Lots of people, notably those living here, aren't laughing. We've been through multiple Songkrans; we know quite well what it's all about. Women don't think being groped is a good laugh either.

Q: Why is it hooliganism?
A. Simple because the hooligans force everyone to participate whether they want to or not. And they attempt to injure their victims if possible. Hooligan-on-hooligan would be fine, have at it.

Q: What can those who DON'T want to participate do to avoid Songkran?
A: Hole up for a week, go out only late at night on furtive expeditions to Foodland or Best; find a town on a different Songkran cycle; leave Thailand. That's ALL.

Q: If you don't like Songkran, you don't like Pattaya and Thailand
A. No, most of us living here like Pattaya and Thailand. We don't have to like EVERYTHING though. Me, I'm a big supporter of Pattaya, love the city except for the traffic and SONGKRAN.

Q: But I get to see women in wet T-shirts at Songrkan
A. You can see plenty of those with no T-shirts in the go-go bars anytime. No big deal.

But Opera is the best

regards Worgeordie

contention ratios I have from a old flier from 3BB about 5 months ago when i changed over. Also some came from a cached version of 3bb website that other thaivisa users have and for once everyone seems to be on the same page regarding the information put out

first of all I did a google translation with some of 3BB websites into english mind you it wasn't perfect but here's what I found, oh and some of you have 3BB pro but I could not find 3BB pro on their website, I guess its discontinued. Anyways heres the translation

3bb I assume this is indy

1. For beginners, use and end user
2. Download / Upload

5M / 512K - users focus on countries such as the email, chat, search, news, or browse the website
8M / 1M
12M/1M - all 3 of these say users want to use foreign medium or upload download large files including hd and see the vdo living streaming
16M/1M

20M / 4M users can different medium used in the computers 3 - 4 simultaneous machine


3bb premier
1. Small to medium sized businesses to increase efficiency of use. Emphasis on using foreign You can use the computer 3-4 simultaneous machine.
2.  For those who have broadband internet experience.

I found this looking around online.

3BB PRO have : share ratio 20:1 / Premier 10:1 / Indy 50:1

so nice to see getting mixed messages. Also has anyone tried the the 3bb indy 20mb download??