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Off topic but Eastern Star are having a major green makeover so prices are 400 baht weekdays 600 baht weekends to play the front nine twice. Not really worth it. Normally 1500 weekdays 2500 weekends from memory so could be wrong.
A tray of balls is 25 baht at the driving range in ES
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In Topic: Siam Country Club Plantation
2011-03-02 12:52:22
manarak, on 2011-03-01 16:59:26, said:
Forethat, on 2011-03-01 10:25:22, said:
Granted - green fees are getting ridiculously high in some parts of Thailand, especially Pattaya. I fear it'll only be another two years before prices will have reached the Phuket levels with greens fees close to 5000. Personally, I love Siam
Finally, I have to comment on OPs initial comment regarding level of difficulty:
You're know this already, so no need for me to be snappy, but golf was never meant to be easy. In fact, there's an entire group of people who's profession it is to make the game more difficult (golf course architects). Wet course usually means the course plays longer than if it's dry. If the course is too long for you to enjoy the game I suggest playing of a different tee box. Keep in mind, if you were to hit a hole in one on every shot - NOBODY would play golf...
Finally, I have to comment on OPs initial comment regarding level of difficulty:
You're know this already, so no need for me to be snappy, but golf was never meant to be easy. In fact, there's an entire group of people who's profession it is to make the game more difficult (golf course architects). Wet course usually means the course plays longer than if it's dry. If the course is too long for you to enjoy the game I suggest playing of a different tee box. Keep in mind, if you were to hit a hole in one on every shot - NOBODY would play golf...
Of course you are right, but...
Some newer courses seem to be built for guys measuring 1m90 and going to the gym every day.
When I started golf over 20 years ago, rare were the courses where I couldn't reach half the par 5 greens in 2 shots and almost all par 4s (from championship tees).
Please note I'm not uncomfortable with the better player winning.
I am questioning the shift in the spirit of the game that is behind this.
Before, the game was a balance between power and precision. Of course you had to attain a certain level of power to have a shot at the par, but once you reached about 220-240 yards carry, you had enough power and would have to work on precision.
220 yards carry is attainable for any reasonably fit adult, from 1m50 to 2m.
A game where anyone had a chance against big hitters.
Ian Woosnam for example is 1m64.
How many successful professional golfers under 1m80 are there today?
Let's look at the top 12:
Martin Kaymer 1m84
Lee Westwood 1m83
Luke Donald 1m75
Graeme McDowell 1m80
Tiger Woods 1m85
Phil Mickelson 1m91
Paul Casey 1m78
Rory McIlroy 1m75
Steve Stricker 1m83
Matt Kuchar 1m93
Jim Furyk 1m88
Ernie Els 1m91
...
and the list goes on and on...
And then remember some names from earlier times (in no particular order, all winners of the Masters):
Tom Watson 1m75
Craig Stadler 1m78
Jack nicklaus 1m78
Gary Player 1m68
Bernhard Langer 1m74
JM Olazabal 1m78
Ben Crenshaw 1m75
...
ok, Faldo is tall, 1m91 as well as Mize and Lyle (1m83 both). but still...
I guess I am ranting.
It is frustrating for someone who used to be able to play with the pros to be limited by his body on courses that were built for athletes.
These playing conditions (very long course with wet fairways) have nothing in common with "normal" courses.
HCP 4... "if you will excuse me, I'll take the ladies tee"
