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In Topic: Australian Businesswoman Arrested In Thailand For Criminal Defamation

Today, 10:23

animatic, on Today, 08:42 , said:

Well his company is a big league mining company with a large seabed exploration division.
Mining and seabed exploration are well known not to be environmentally friendly.
To make them so, is much more expensive, and to some minds distorts the price at market to a disadvantage.

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http://www.tongkahha...ut_history.html

1980: Shareholding was restructured to become predominantly Thai in response to the Thai government’s policy of encouraging domestic investment in the mining industry. On being registered in Thailand, the Company was renamed “Tongkah Harbour Ltd.”

1990: With the collapse of the tin market in the mid 80’s, the Company diversified into gold and base metal exploration in 1990, and property development in Bangkok where it undertook the construction of “Tongkah Tower”, now known as the “True Tower”.

It may have one Malaysia Director, but it is primarily Thai, and well connected.
True Tower.... any connection to Truevision, True Telecom, etc? hhmmm.

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2005: The Company accumulated 83.7 % of Sea Minerals Limited (SML) which has subsequently filed mining leases over 50,000 rai (8,000 hectares) to mine an off-shore deposit in the Andaman Sea where evaluations based on some 1200 drill holes indicate resources of over 50,000 tons of tin in the area.

2007: The Company controls 99.99% of SML which has proven reserves of some 60,000 tons of tin ore (72% Sn) at a cut off grade of 0.10kg/cubic meterNow

2009: Currently, the Company is focused on flotation plant construction at its Loei gold mining operation and commissioning the facility for full operation and production. Meanwhile, exploration for more ore in the concession area is ongoing with recent drilling at Target T-1 indicating increases in sulfide ore resources. THL will also be pursuing licensing for its offshore tin ore resources in the Andaman Sea, and will be monitoring development prospects for its landbank holdings in Bangkok and Phuket. The company will also continue to monitor and following upon, any exploration and development prospects in Thailand and neighboring countries.

Extremely well connected company, and in 'a businesses type at loggerheads with most environmental groups, and fishing companies', etc. Underwater mining as a basic concept... hard to keep those toxic byproducts out of the surrounding seawater, and the fisheries that are there.

Not hard to see where saying the wrong thing 'in good conscience' in a private meeting, might easily make these guys more than a little defensive. Is 'Due Dilligence' encouraged in Thailands business circles? If they have the 'True' mind set that is used on DTAC and the CAT concessions business, this legal attack may not be a surprise.

Maybe far too much money and face to be lost here,
so maybe a good defense is an agressive silencing offense?

Based on their website info it could be speculated that not every investor is prepared to invest in this type of business, and not every analyst will recommend getting involved in this type of business. Maybe something of the sort was said directly in the face of said Former Director?

60,000 tons of tin ore. That doesn't sound like a "big league" mining company.

In Topic: What Is The Value Of A Thai Passport?

Yesterday, 14:03

I don't understand why people are complaining about the US immigration and processing of visas. I recently went through US immigration process myself and found it much easier than the Thai interrogation that I go through every year here. Certainly the Americans are more professional.

In Topic: Thai Law Voiding Verdicts To Be Tabled

2012-05-27 20:38:17

hellodolly, on 2012-05-27 04:41:02, said:

What you say about Thaksin was true 12 years ago. I was talking about today. I notice you skip over the part about the resistance Abhist had to put up within his coalition. Also the terrorism he had to combat. If you think he was wrong just look at how Syria is doing it. He did it in as humane away as the red shirts would let him.

Thaksin In his time he did do some good things but he was in a time of world economics success. And he had the power behind him. If he had used all that power for the betterment of Thailand instead of lining his pockets. He would not have been thrown out. He had very little resistance his undoing is the same that he has now and will not allow him to ever return. EGO actually I think he might fear a bullet is here with his name on it.

What has he done for Thailand lately over 90 dead as a result of his ego. 10 months back in power and the poor red shirts have not one thing to show for it other than the money they got for the Bangkok insurrection and the money they got for voting for him.

Get into 2012 The red shirts have no body to lead them. As I said the Dem's are not a possibility because of the crap they were fed. You criticize me for calling them uneducated what do you think the leaders were calling them when they had to set up a school to teach them what democracy is. Or do you think as I do brainwash them into believing the only true democracy was doing it there way.

Yes the red shirts only happened after the coup but they were all ready in the wings. just waiting for the other two Thaksin led governments to fall on their face. Where they could then try to bring their leader back with illegal means. Or are you saying invasion of hospitals is legal? That is a yes or no question.

Interesting how you equate uneducated with a lower class. As far as I am concerned they just know less than me because I had 12 and a half years of real schooling where if you failed you did not move on to the next grade. It is just a fact not a measurement of class. They were completely happy with the parliamentary system until it didn't work for them. Then all of a sudden they have to have democracy instead. Why did they not change over to democracy when they had the power why wait until they no longer have the power?

The reason the parliamentary system no longer worked for them (the red shirt supporters) is because an Army stole the country by way of a coup. They then tore up the constitution and wrote a new one that benefited them.
I only mentioned the term "uneducated" because you initially referred to it. Specifically because the Yellow shirt Army aligned group used this as a reason to justify to the world about breaking the nation's law. They attempted to imply that the any person that voted against them was not worthy of a vote in an election. If that's not thinkiong you are superior then what is? Whether a person is educated or not is meaningless, in Democracy it means one citizen, one vote. It seems you are trying define what democracy is. Well, I can't answer that, but I'm quite certain when an army takes over the nation by gun (not ballot), then that is not a democracy. Also it's evident (by the last several elections) that the majority of Thais do not want any army run country. While I don't think Thaksin is a good choice either, but this is what majority of Thais have chosen.

In Topic: Thai PM Opens "Thai Kitchen To The World" Event To Promote Thai Food...

2012-05-27 16:14:33

The first article says that Australia imports 110,000 tonnes of Thai rice per year. The second article says that Australia imports over $1.1 billion dollars worth of Thai rice per year....Implying they buy the rice at $10,000 (THB 310,000) per tonne. Either the Thai journalists are lying, or those Aussie are paying too much for their rice.

In Topic: Thai Law Voiding Verdicts To Be Tabled

2012-05-27 00:20:53

hellodolly, on 2012-05-26 23:00:24, said:

Time Traveller, on 2012-05-26 15:08:17, said:

FOODLOVER, on 2012-05-26 08:01:45, said:

I wish the reds would see him for what he is. Used their deaths for his own self serving purposes and craps in their faces with the PM not even showing to give compensation. All about one man. So sad for the truly poor in Thailand. Posted Image

You are assuming they do not? Are you really so condescending toward the “poor”?
Ask yourself why do the Red shirts support Taksin? Why do the Red shirts not support Democrats?
Why was Taksin (who himself is an elite) kicked out of the circle of Elites club by the military?
If Red shirts don’t support Taksin, then who will the Redshirts support? Who will push their cause and stand up against the elites? If no one, then they are back to supporting Taksin and his political group.

The problem with your whole post is that you assumed Thaksin was on there side. The reason they supported him was because he promised them they would all be rich in 6 months he was going to improve there schools and any thing else they wanted right away.

While the democrats made no such promises they set things in motion to bring about those desires (other than the be rich in 6 months) but they would take a lot of time not just happen today as Thaksin led them to believe. Also you forget that 40 of their supporters were Thaksin trained and not that up on social justice. This was a big problem the Dem's had to work with.

As I see it the red shirts who blindly followed Thaksin fell into two camps the big one being the uneducated one's and the other one's receiving cash for there part in it.

As it stands now yes who are they going to follow Thaksin has been back in power now for about 10 months and all they have seen is prices going up. Give Abhist the kind of support that they gave Thaksin and they will begin to see results they will be able to see them not rely on talk.
Yes indeed who are they to follow they won't believe in Abhist because of the indoctrination that Thaksin's hired mouth pieces and goons fed them and they are slowly seeing that in 10 months they are still no better off.

No. In Thailand politics when it's the little people fighting for democracy against military run governments, then the little people will always end up dead, such as in 1973, 76 & 92. But in this case those same people realized that elites themselves were fighting against each other. Thaksin was taking on the establishment for whatever reason he was kicked out. There was a belief that supporting Thaksin, could result in change and they wouldn't be any worse of under Thaksin than the alternative. Remember, the red shirt movement only began after the coup. He was also the person that brought in universal affordable health care). In past 75 years of "democracy" there was nothing. The Redshirts are not stupid and only wanted long needed change from military totalitarianism. They chose Thaksin as there was no real alternative. Thaksin needed them, so it was an easy match.
Your reference to "uneducated" people demonstrates only how you feel superior to others, and is the way the elite maintain an impression that they are some how better than the lower classes. The Democrats have never offered anything to the poor except more of the same. The same "know you place in this (feudal) society" rhetoric.