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tropo

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In Topic: Concept 2 Rower Model D (Exercise For Fat Loss)

Today, 01:45

Are you monitoring your heart rate? If you are, how high are you going?

Regarding the "body media" device. Are you so sure it's giving you correct information that you'll adjust your diet by it?

Just to give you an idea how inaccurate calorie/heart rate readings can be...

Today I did 90 minutes of cardio.

1. 30 minutes on rower: Average heart rate 119 max 128. Calories burned 390
2. 30 minutes on Startec bike: Average heart rate 125, max 132. Calories burned 350
3. 30 minutes on Cybex Arc Trainer: Average heart rate 128, Max 133. Calories burned 500

My goal was to maintain my heart rate at 130 for the full 90 mins. The max rates over 30 were brief as I adjusted my workload down. There was a 5 minute warmup period on the first two sessions therefore my average came out lower.

How could a device that tracks heart rate predict my calories burned? I don't buy it.

In Topic: 40 Up And Testotorone Injections! Do They Work?

Yesterday, 17:30

View PostStubby, on Yesterday, 11:51 , said:


Hi Tropo.

Thanks for that clarification, you make some very valid points, and sensible observations.  I think I was leaning more to the 'I'll go and get me some of that' brigade, probably the same tribe that buys viagra over the counter (also without consultation), and diet pills etc.

I still think that if poor lifestyle (and not simply by getting older), can affect testosterone levels, then why wouldn't someone want to try improving their lifestyle before getting a medical solution. Bit like viagra and its cousins. Many take it simply to prevent brewers droop, but surely it's safer, healthier, and more fun in the sack to be sober when having a bit of how's y' father?

I know a 60 something bloke who had a heart attack in Bkk after taking viagra. He lived to tell the tale, but even so!

According to that article i linked to, low t can be caused by carrying excess weight, not being regular, and binge drinking. So if anyone has been diagnosed as having low testosterone levels and can relate to any of the above, surely that is potentially the course of the problem and not just being 40+.

But good points all round, and thank you for your response Posted Image

Stubby

You also bring up some good points. As a health conscious person who doesn't drink or smoke I wasn't mindful enough of people on the other side who inflict a myriad of health problems upon themselves.

TRT is along the same lines as people who take diabetic medication to control blood sugar, people who take drugs to control cholesterol, people who take drugs to lower blood pressure etc. A large percentage of these people would be able to find natural means to overcome their conditions if they could find the motivation.

People normally end up with these chronic conditions after a lifetime of abuse. It's not often they can turn it around naturally.

At some point medication becomes the only option.

In Topic: Decomposing Corpse Of German Man Found In Pattaya

Yesterday, 03:42

View PostJingthing, on Yesterday, 01:06 , said:

When the press shows you a picture of a dead man's medication they are clearly suggesting the death was a result of disease that was medicated. That is really, really bad journalism.

It tells the readers the man was on a lot of medication and not healthy.

As far as bad journalism is concerned - well, what else can we expect in Pattaya? That's a given no matter what the story.

In Topic: Decomposing Corpse Of German Man Found In Pattaya

Yesterday, 00:59

View PostJingthing, on Yesterday, 00:33 , said:

View Postpattayadingo, on 2012-05-27 21:34:35, said:

I totally agree. Have you ever had an asthma attack? It is likened to being like a fish out of water gasping. You are trying to get air into your lungs as you wheeze and feel your throat and chest tightening more and more. You have to get to your inhaler(s) fast. That can mean panic. In that panic you can easily slip on a wet patch of floor and down you go and smack your head hard. Then the head injury can kill you if the asthma attack does not.

Get someone to 'water-board' you and you will soon understand the panic a bad asthma attack can trigger !!
He clearly died from a wound caused by a fall, at least based on the press report. Yes I know all about asthma. There is no proof whatsoever he died of asthma or high blood pressure. Yes of course people die from asthma attacks but when people with asthma die from a WOUND to jump to the conclusion they died from asthma is completely unscientific. The majority of asthmatics have their condition completely under control with a combination of both preventative and relief medications, going for years or decades with no attacks. For all you know he was that kind of common asthmatic and hasn't had a serious attack in decades. The fact that he had MEDICATION means he was treating it, lessening the chance he actually had an attack. All we KNOW from the report is a strong indication of an accidental fall sadly resulting in a fatal injury. Think about it, when a person with diabetes dies in a car crash, did you say he died from diabetes? I hope police investigators/medical examiners are a little more professional than a lot of the posters (or the press) here!

Stop waffling. You said you were offended when medications were reported and you couldn't understand the significance of two medical conditions which were reported.

Once more, we are talking about POSSIBLE significance, not proven fact.

Now give it a break.

In Topic: 40 Up And Testotorone Injections! Do They Work?

2012-05-27 23:39:28

View PostStubby, on 2012-05-27 23:04:07, said:

But there are potentially harmful side effects right? Acne; bitter or odd tastes in the mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache, to name but a handful.

I think you missed my point. HRT or TRT is a very conservative supplementation aimed to bring testosterone (or other hormones) into the normal, healthy range. Acne and hair loss are the result of people going too high and out of range. The change in sex drive is normally an improvement if the person supplements to a normal healthy range.

What most people don't do is test, test, test. They supplement without a clue what their levels are. Test testosterone levels and estrogen levels often when supplementing. Doctors don't suggest enough testing when offering HRT in most cases... mainly due to cost and convenience factors.

Using a reputable HRT doctor is the best way to go. Not one of these nonsense clinics in Thailand that are just trying to get you to spend as much as possible.

If you read up in this thread a bit you'll find one person who was recommended Testosterone Depot (at a cost of 500 baht per injection) by a clinic here in Thailand even though his testosterone levels were still well within the normal range. This is plain wrong on so many levels I wouldn't know where to begin.

I have to say though that it might have been a case of a person wanting to boost his levels to the high range thinking it was going to turn him into a raging bull... or a person wanting to get big muscles. Also wrong!

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