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In Topic: A Tale Of Three Helicopter Disasters In Thailand
2011-07-29 16:18:45
''Never fly with the Boss'' ha ha ha if sanity is to prevail. Knowledgeable post. Thank you.
peterpop, on 2011-07-27 13:17:31, said:
I am a retired helicopter pilot with 15000 hours on various civil and military helicopters over 40 years flying.
I have some comments [thoughts] from my experience of similar accidents.
1. First incident bad weather, maybe lost [over Burma], probably unqualified to fly on instruments alone, no radar.
Flight should not have been authorised by commanding officer, probably struck trees.
2. Second incident, General on board, opportunity for the Senior Pilot who spends most of his time driving a desk, to fly to get credit for promotion, [old saying in professional circles ''Never fly with the Boss'', too much pressure to get to the scene, aircraft may have been overloaded [press on board, max fuel etc,] similar problems with basic flying skills in poor weather, poor supervision and authorisation.
3. Third crash may well have been tail rotor failure in which case the pilot would shut down the engines to minimise torque reaction and attempt autorotation, probably too low or downwind.
Crash sites became a photo opportunity for irresponsible press and public, forensics therefore more difficult.
Little chance of a dispassionate enquiry, but I would be looking at the Command, control and training of senior officers. The Bell and Sikorsky Helicopters are time proven and have excellent safety records with basic maintenance.
In this text: one mechanic survived to recount the malfunction of the tail rotor.
That is really problem in bad weather conditions and poor area to land safely. I have encountered it once and I was in luck near by airfield.
Not easy to land with tailrotor problems, but there can be many different malfuntions in tailrotors also.(Jammed, loss of power, rotating speed and so on...)
I read another thing where he said ..."then suddenly the two engines stopped"
I wouldn't even know of two engines in a heli.
I have some comments [thoughts] from my experience of similar accidents.
1. First incident bad weather, maybe lost [over Burma], probably unqualified to fly on instruments alone, no radar.
Flight should not have been authorised by commanding officer, probably struck trees.
2. Second incident, General on board, opportunity for the Senior Pilot who spends most of his time driving a desk, to fly to get credit for promotion, [old saying in professional circles ''Never fly with the Boss'', too much pressure to get to the scene, aircraft may have been overloaded [press on board, max fuel etc,] similar problems with basic flying skills in poor weather, poor supervision and authorisation.
3. Third crash may well have been tail rotor failure in which case the pilot would shut down the engines to minimise torque reaction and attempt autorotation, probably too low or downwind.
Crash sites became a photo opportunity for irresponsible press and public, forensics therefore more difficult.
Little chance of a dispassionate enquiry, but I would be looking at the Command, control and training of senior officers. The Bell and Sikorsky Helicopters are time proven and have excellent safety records with basic maintenance.
elcent, on 2011-07-27 12:41:08, said:
Rekku, on 2011-07-27 12:36:13, said:
elcent, on 2011-07-27 12:27:15, said:
I remember it was mentioned from the only survivor of the helicopter crash 3.
I think it was either BP or NMM that reported the interviewr.
I think it was either BP or NMM that reported the interviewr.
In this text: one mechanic survived to recount the malfunction of the tail rotor.
That is really problem in bad weather conditions and poor area to land safely. I have encountered it once and I was in luck near by airfield.
Not easy to land with tailrotor problems, but there can be many different malfuntions in tailrotors also.(Jammed, loss of power, rotating speed and so on...)
I read another thing where he said ..."then suddenly the two engines stopped"
I wouldn't even know of two engines in a heli.
In Topic: Thailand's Democrats Seek Ban On Thaksin Party
2011-07-09 16:56:50
Interesting theory. Not beyond the bounds of realism.
OzMick, on 2011-07-09 16:47:43, said:
I have a strange suspicion that Thaksin's involvement was a deliberate ploy - to have PTP de-registered without actually changing the outcome of the election. This allows him to spread further disinformation in Isaan of how unfair this was (working on TVF!) further radicalising his supporters and sowing even more distrust in the court system.
Other actions, such as including red leaders in the PTP party list where they were assured of election are further evidence that he is not seeking reconciliation but widening the gap, increasing the NE sense of grievance. Any attempt to prevent PTP granting him amnesty could then spark wholesale violence.
And if you want to change from constitutional monarchy to dictatorship, you need a revolution.
Other actions, such as including red leaders in the PTP party list where they were assured of election are further evidence that he is not seeking reconciliation but widening the gap, increasing the NE sense of grievance. Any attempt to prevent PTP granting him amnesty could then spark wholesale violence.
And if you want to change from constitutional monarchy to dictatorship, you need a revolution.
In Topic: Thailand's Democrats Seek Ban On Thaksin Party
2011-07-09 16:42:41
Puccini, on 2011-07-09 16:14:10, said:
rubl, on 2011-07-09 15:56:11, said:
The other newspaper has a newsflash that Ms. Yingluck said neither her older brother Thaksin nor any of the 111 banned TRT executives had been involved in her party. She said Pheu Thai had working teams to sort out policies to settle pressing problems.
The flash didn't mention whether Ms. Yingluck was smiling or not, grave omission IMHO
The flash didn't mention whether Ms. Yingluck was smiling or not, grave omission IMHO
Everything is OK then, seeing that no banned politician was involved in the PTP. There should be a law against so many people impersonating banned politicians. I am sure a lot of voters got fooled and thought they were genuine.
Just finished reading/catching up on this thread and I have to say that this comment made it all worthwhile. Thanks Puccini
